Pilgrim1099
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Posts: 606 | Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Tuesday, August, 03, 2010 11:11 PM
Here's something that's food for thought. Metaphysically speaking, Flynn was obsessed with the idea of religion in that level regarding the digital world. Now, I'd like to ask is where do programs go when they die or get de-rezzed?
In the first movie, they get absorbed by the MCP. Now, in Legacy, do they get recycled and re-programmed like a Karmic circle or do they get absorbed back into the source (aka God, Heaven or whatnot)?
If they are getting absorbed by somewhere else, who or what is absorbing the dead programs' functions?
And also, if Flynn's been there for 20 years, how many programs have died from the viral attacks and/or the death games? In other words, just how many programs are in that isolated server? The population density has got to be trimmed down over twenty years from all the fighting, don't you think?
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Posts: 253 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Wednesday, August, 04, 2010 2:28 PM
Now that would be a great gameplay element for Tron Evolution. If you derez an enemy you absorb there function. Kind of like the Highlander. After all the MCP did absorb other programs so it would be logical to assume that an advance enough program could too.
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Posts: 238 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
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KiaPurity
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Posts: 3,488 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Wednesday, August, 04, 2010 11:27 PM
...thinking about it, I really think Ram did get absorbed into the system (not MCP) mostly because you could see the energy surge into the system and fade. MCP had to have an elaborate set-up in order to absorb other programs.
...and for some reason, I want to draw sheep in the Tron world.
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Posts: 47 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Wednesday, August, 04, 2010 11:57 PM
For those who do not get the thread titles reference.... the original novel that was the basis for Blade Runner was "Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep?"
Anyways, I think that when programs do de rez, I think that all their memory is returned to the system. Unlike how the MCP absorbs programs and takes their abilities and memory, when a program de rezzes it just frees up system RAM (Random Access Memory, not the program). If you think of energy within the digital world being useable to programs (when Flynn, Tron, and RAM were drinking it on the way to the I/O tower), then their energy would also be returned to the system in the same way that matter can not be created nor destroyed, just transform.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill
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Posts: 331 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 12:05 AM
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Posts: 606 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 6:31 AM
tomorowlandude Wrote:| KiaPurity Wrote:...and for some reason, I want to draw sheep in the Tron world. |
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Posts: 606 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 6:38 AM
KiaPurity Wrote:...thinking about it, I really think Ram did get absorbed into the system (not MCP) mostly because you could see the energy surge into the system and fade. MCP had to have an elaborate set-up in order to absorb other programs.
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I've been thinking about this because of just how many programs there are in the isolated server in Flynn's basement. How could a server replicate more programs to keep the population density up? Were the death games designed to cut down the number of program density on board or else the memory banks would overload?
It's interesting because metaphysically, I suspect, programs do have a place to go after they de-rez. Almost like digital souls as their code is locked away in limbo, perhaps.
If the MCP had an elaborate system set up to absorb program functions, then what does this say about Clu 2.0? I think the only way the MCP could get program functions was that they had to die in the games. If they left the game grid, he could'nt get them. This might explain why Flynn is staying off of Clu's territory in the safe house.
Remember the data pushers in the first film that Flynn comes across after the Recognizer crash? Do you suppose that's the origin of the End of Line Club?
If those data pushers are running around selling stuff, they encourage a sense of addiction for programs who want more of it and grow with the functions but they probably last a certain amount of time, shortening their lifespan, maybe?
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Pilgrim1099
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Posts: 606 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 6:41 AM
TronGate Wrote:For those who do not get the thread titles reference.... the original novel that was the basis for Blade Runner was "Do Androids Dream of Electronic Sheep?"
Anyways, I think that when programs do de rez, I think that all their memory is returned to the system. Unlike how the MCP absorbs programs and takes their abilities and memory, when a program de rezzes it just frees up system RAM (Random Access Memory, not the program). If you think of energy within the digital world being useable to programs (when Flynn, Tron, and RAM were drinking it on the way to the I/O tower), then their energy would also be returned to the system in the same way that matter can not be created nor destroyed, just transform. |
Re: Blade Runner reference. You got that one right! That was exactly the intent of my thread. Classic film, by the way.
Here's a more interesting thought. What would happen if Philip K. Dick had written TRON? (for those who don't know, he's the guy that wrote Blade Runner--the original novel and also had a novel titled Minority Report. Yes, the very same film Spielberg produced).
I suspect programs get re-cycled and then returned in a new format without a memory from scratch or completely deleted for good. Think of the internet pages have a cached page. Those pages got taken down, but they are still out there hidden away. So, the coding can be cached away until then. I wonder if this has something to do with Tron himself. Hmmmm.
I think I know where they're going with this regarding the Rinzler situation.
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Posts: 331 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
on Thursday, August, 05, 2010 12:13 PM
Pilgrim1099 Wrote:tomorowlandude Wrote:| KiaPurity Wrote:...and for some reason, I want to draw sheep in the Tron world. |
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Posts: 3,488 | Re: Do Programs Dream Of Electric Sheep?
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