Hey.. This is from my blog post...

http://blog.myspace.com/ikeyamark2
It's just an expression trying to set the differences between PC and console.. Give it a shot but read it all...

VIDS ARE POSTED ON MY BLOG (since I can't post it here.





Wednesday, March 18th 2009

To everyone that reads my blog, this one is going to be different. It's addressing an issue that you may not be interested in unless you are either a PC or a console gamer. I'll get back to my regular blog posting in the near future.


PC vs. Console

I'm a PC fanboy, but I think I'm mature enough to give console gamers respect. I keep in mind that we are gamers first so anything beyond that is rather petty. Nevertheless there is a reason as to what got me on the subject of PC gaming as compared to console gaming. There is a big difference that many are unaware of and I hope to break this down for everyone to the best I can.

What got me started on this was a YouTube video of GTA: San Andras. The video was sporting a crazy mod (short for modification) where people were playing in a new city that wasn't created by Rockstar. There where ramps that extended over 500 ft., tunnels that spaded in the sky for miles and did loops around the huge map, new cars such as the Delorian from 'Back to the Future', UFO's which the player can control and so much more. A curious comment appeared on the video asking what type of cheat code they can use to play this map. The kid was thinking that Rockstar put the map in as a hidden feature that could be accessed through the PlayStation controller... but that wasn't the case. Someone who didn't fully understand the question replied by saying that he would have to download the mod and install to their GTA:SA directory. The kid had no clue what that ment till someone explained that you can only do this on the PC.

This amazed me as I was reading this conversation. I thought console people knew that you can do this sort of stuff (and much more) with PC games that you can't do with console. I found this to be very interesting and went browsing for more videos where someone covered the subject but couldn't find one worth my time. So I thought I'd explain it in a fair way if I can take my fanboyism out of the picture.

Console games are great. They aren't for me though, but they are great. There is a slew of great titles released (some exclusive to a particular console) and sometimes those titles find a huge success. However, consoles are very limited with what you can do with a game. Seriously, it's a machine designed to play disk-based games, movies, has a little bit of internet features, and some classic arcade features like Virtual Console or something similar to it. That sounds like a lot. It is, but not enough for a PC gamer.

PCs are usually misunderstood. Most console gamers don't find PC games interesting because they either own (or their mom owns) as shitty $400 PC that isn't designed for real gaming. Those are computers geared for folks who just want to browse online and upload photos and do some school work on. You'll never be able to run something like Bio Shock on something that small. It's built with the 'common user' in mind so they can get a PC for their interests at a cheap price.

PCs for gaming go way beyond that. If you want to play games that visually make a PS3 look like an outdated console, you're looking at something that's going to cost you up to $1,500+ (give or take $500) because the technology is new and fresh and goes beyond anything currently in the console market. However, if you want to have real user power (but you'd only want to make such an investment if you either want to produce something amazing, create music or just a computer enthusiast, then you're looking at the good old fashion price of $3,000 or more and you'd be better off building it yourself (which you can save a ton of money this way if you do it right).

Let me explain something....

Back in 2003 I built myself what I consider to be the ultimate PC at the time. It cost me (all together) around $2,500+ and I'm still using it today (but it's time to build a new one). One this computer is retired as my main PC, I still have a great use for it. You can always take an old PC that is fully functional and turn it into something very amazing like a mulit-arcade machine and Juke Box or a server of some sort... or whatever you can come up with. Believe it or not, I know a guy who turned his into a multi-console gaming platform that he has hooked up to his tv and he is emulating almost everything (Atari 2600, Colecovision, NES, SNES, N64, Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Play Station 1 and 2, Arcade games, and much more) all in one PC. There are easy ways of doing this, all you have to do is some light browsing on the internet reguarding 'emulation'. Try it, you'd be amazed what you'd find.

Now lets get back to game modification. A game mod is were someone takes a game and can either add or change it's content to anything the mod-er desires. Most PC games these days will actually promote you to mod their games since it breaths an extended life into them and helps raise their volume in sells. The best example would be Unreal Tournament 2004 and Unreal Tournament 3. I think there are more total conversion mods (which means the mod is so extreme it becomes a whole new game) than any other game that I'm currently aware of. This is one example as to why PC gaming has been in the lead since PC has went mainstream.

The GTA:SA mods are amazing if you find the right ones. Here is an small example of a GTA:SA mod that is really wild. Oh.. .BTW, it's also a mulit-player mod too so you can get online and play with a great deal of people. Very awesome.. You can only do this on the PC version.



Here is one that sports the MP mod in GTA:SA with a bunch of base jumpers.



I always preferred computer games over console as early as 1983 when I started out on the C64, however my last console was the Sega Genesis which I sold durning the release of Sonic when Sega when the cute and cuddly route. Still love those old systems, but never had an interest in consoles...

DON'T GET ME WRONG!!! I'm not saying that consoles suck. They are much more affordable than gaming PCs and it brings you more of a group experience when you're playing games with friends. The Wii is a perfect example of that. Consoles are great and if you are exclusive to consoles then that fine, but try to consider PC gaming sometime in the future. You'll be so very amazing on what you are missing out on.

With that said, here is a funny little Crysis vid for the PC.





If you comment, be nice.... Also, please forgive my poor revision of this post since I'm short on time... Thanks..

The price and constant maintenance killed PC gaming for me. To many moments of dishonest minimum requirements. To many trips to Fry's Electronics to upgrade hardware followed by return trips due to malfunctioning purchases. To many buggy releases. Ect...

Don't get me wrong, PC gaming is absolutely viable. If you have the time, energy and income to dedicate to it. Can PC exist as a superior platform? Yes. But not by a dramatic enough margin to lure me in. Not enough to outweigh the stress. I want my gaming to be fun and easy. to be something I do to escape from the real world. PC gaming doesn't seem to offer that on a consistent enough level for me to pursue it with zeal. And unless you commit fully, you fall behind and suddenly newer games are out of your reach.

I agree:
I played consoles alot, like most ppl as a kid. But as with most gadgets, they have limitations. I started learning on computers long before I played consoles, in 1987. So I knew the difference, and wasn't stuck in thinking about what I wanted.

Most points are valid on the logic behind computers these days.


Parts are very expensive, and they have to be on a dedicated power line, preferably with a uninteruptable power supply with a real time voltage regulator. Then the technical difficulty of all the programs that are problematic, or glitchy, or just windows based in general. But I would never trade my experiences as a PC gamer. I work hard, and maybe I need everything to be complicated to be interesting. Life is short. I need to scour the net, watch tv, play games and multitask between messengers and voip to feel normal. But that's just me.

I just bought a 7800GTX superclock and now it's dead. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

So where's the funny Crysis vid?

Regarding the part about mods and how that can only be done on PC's:

There's a very popular Half Life 2 mod called Garry's Mod that lets you spawn anything from any game running on the "Source" game engine installed on your computer, and then lets you build stuff out of it.

What's funny is that Hardcore XBOX 360 gamers don't understand how a mod works, and so they expect Garry's Mod to be released on the XBOX 360. It's hilarious when I see a comment on a Youtube Gmod vid with some kid saying "IS THIS ON 360?!?" (of course, someone left a comment on one of my Portal vids the other day asking if it was available on that kitten-killer that was the Gamecube, which left me dumbfounded, staring at my screen wondering if he was serious)

Regarding the part where you said you abandoned the Genesis when Sega went the cute and cuddly route:

A lot of people feel the same way about Nintendo and the Wii today. The thing is, Nintendo says they're trying to appeal to a massive-widespread audience with their casual games. The problem is, Nintendo is ONLY making casual games, which is making their "hardcore" audience feel left out in the cold. A quote from a Nintendo representative during an E308 interview on the topic:

Well, we've got Guitar Hero coming out for the Wii and DS, as well as Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto. We've also got a new Animal Crossing game coming out, I guess that's kinda hardcore.

Many Wii owners today feel the same way you did when you owned a Genesis. Hardcore gamers feel that Nintendo has abandoned them by only releasing cute and cuddly casual games. In fact, I can't remember the last time I played a Nintendo title on the Wii by myself (at parties, they're a blast) *correction - it was Exite Truck, probably the last hardcore game Nintendo released, and gee was it fun*.

On the issue of Consoles VS. PC's, it's a tie in my opinion. Most games I'm interested in on PC are multiplatform releases, which usually provide around the same graphic quality when compared between PC, PS3, and 360. Generally, if a title is available on the Wii and isn't horribly gimped and is actually playable, unlike so many ports on the Wii, I'll probably pass up the PC version for the Wii release. Why? My computer is running out of space, and fast. I have about 22GB of HD space left on my C drive, and my computer's compact design prevents it from being upgraded at all (and in case you're wondering who the idiot company is who came up with that, it's Acer...). It's really a space-saver thing, so I'm usually a console gamer.

Then there's some games that I really would like to play, but I can't because my computer, despite how new and up to date it is, doesn't meet up to these extremely high specifications (unfortunately, that means I probably won't ever be able to play them, as I own a Wii, and I don't want a 360 and a PS3 is still too expensive).

END OF ESSAY

I'm not sure which one to prefer because my laptop sucks so much that it doesn't play anything at all. I have to force it play Tron 2.0 at an unbelievably low detail and use that software suggestion on TronFAQ's website to pass the TnL pop up.



By the way, did I mention it's a tablet PC? It's one of the early Toshiba tablet PCs. It absolutely sucks at everything and Needs those 60 extra background processes in order to function properly, otherwise it will just flake out. >A regular desktop wouldn't need all those in order to just use those extra built in functions. The tablet is what takes up most of those extra processes. It's not even a good tablet. I don't know who got the idea that I would like a Tablet PC...




When it comes to consoles, I still play the Gamecube and what little games I have for it. I mostly play borrowed games(once a month) from my brother on it. I really don't have that many games for it, because I didn't get one until it's last year of production. Actually it was handed down to me on it's last year of production and died three to six months later. On the Christmas of that year I got a new one only because they were so cheap at that time.



Around two years ago I got lucky enough to get a Nintendo DS because of the price drop. Even then I rarely play the games I have for it. Mostly because I'm too busy. I currently have seven games for it, not counting one game because it's so un-fun and un-addictive that I don't consider it worthy. Two of those game are recently bought. One of them being a repurchase of Planet Puzzle League because someone had stolen it from me. The other was a used copy of Tetris DS.



What really sucks is that it was a big mistake for me to buy those two games. I'm having problems already just trying to find enough time to play the games I already have. I also don't have much money to put into them either. I don't know what I was thinking. I was originally going to buy Korg DS 10 because I know I would put my time into using it. Nintendo doesn't even let you register a second copy of a video game anymore. Consoles, yes. Games, no.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

TRON.dll Wrote: Regarding the part where you said you abandoned the Genesis when Sega went the cute and cuddly route: A lot of people feel the same way about Nintendo and the Wii today. The thing is, Nintendo says they're trying to appeal to a massive-widespread audience with their casual games. The problem is, Nintendo is ONLY making casual games, which is making their "hardcore" audience feel left out in the cold. A quote from a Nintendo representative during an E308 interview on the topic:

Yes, yes, and yeah...

However, there really isn't anything wrong with 'cute-and-cuddly' it's just that it's not my tastes... When the Genesis was first released, it's persona was very mature. We had games like 'Revenge of Shinobi', 'Golden Axe', and latter came the arcade port of 'Strider' and many more..

When 'Sonic' came out, I was really impressed and I was happy for Sega (it threw Sega into it's most prosper era), but I saw were Sega was going and I had to bid a 'fair well' to that awesome console and I embraced my Amiga.

Why Nintendo works so well in the market is that those guys focus most of their attention on clean fun and innovation... but you are right, it's more of a casual game system. It's not that it's a bad thing, but most people have to go elsewhere if they want a real hardcore gaming experience.... but Kudos to Nintendo for getting our grandmothers involved (there are a lot of retirement homes in my area where a massive amount of Wii's were purchased). I saw this on my local news and a bunch of old folks were happy that they could bowl again without the weight of a bowling ball.

Qix77 they need to do it properly tighen the blooming code. They are becoming like MS where it is totally bloated out the ying-yang.

I must be a really good in my. I still have 189 gig available on my C and 244 gigs available on my D drive. two seperate drives on my dell precision 530 a 250 gig as my primary and a 300 on my secondary drive.

TRON.dll Wrote: Compucore Wrote:They are becoming like MS where it is totally bloated out the ying-yang. When I bought my new computer, it came with a 300GB hard drive. It came with Vista, a MacAfee free trial, and a truckload of [strike]crack[/strike] Popcap games. When it was all set up, I had a 90GB hard drive.

My situation: My mom tried to bribe me with consoles if I could finish spelling books. I never did and my spelling sucks.

But other than that... I've always been a PC gamer. Grew up on C64 to start with! Although, my first console although, it was a hand-me-down was Atari 2600. :B Good times with that.

Right now, I'm both a PC gamer and a console gamer. I prefer to have multi-function console/computer and that works out just great for me. I have my PS3 to play dvds that I borrow from work (since I work at a library) and my computer to do essential stuff other than games.

On weekends when I have plenty of time, I can feel free to just play either on my computer or on my PS3/Wii/any other consoles.

However, I do feel that Nintendo is trying so hard to get to the wide audience range that it appears that they have "forgotten" the core audience. The thing is that the core audience have grown up, but Nintendo simply hasn't. And I only have ONE M rated title and that's Metal Gear Solid for Gamecube. Also, in that same vein, the only highest ranking I have for Wii is T: Super Smash Bros Brawl and Bleach: Shattered Blade. Everything else is E.

And on the other hand, the only E title I have for PS3 is Little Big Planet. ; (Although, the only M title for PS3 is ... Metal Gear Solid 4. Yeah. I like my MGS.)

Regardless, it's not a bad thing to have variety as to be able to offer everyone something that they want.

...and as for PC, I haven't played games for a while since I kinda blew up my machine by accident. What I have played: The Sims 2 (I'm easily amused with my Deadpool sim), Left for Dead (good times), Portal, Peggle Deluxe/Extreme, ... anything I can play on Stream.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pillabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

And my own planned upgrade is like, $350ish! :P

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