simbeau Wrote: It's what you inferred. (Sigh)

I implied nothing of the sort. I was quite direct with what I think you are doing, which is offering up rumor as fact. Just as Jim Hill has done. I never made ANY claim on your motivation, did I?

So no... That would be you inferring. Not me.

Let's be clear. You cannot or will not substantiate your claims. No matter how much you may believe the veracity of your "source", the fact that it is unsubstantiated means that what you report IS rumor. You should be responsible enough to present it as such.

simbeau Wrote: Likening me to Jim Hill IS inferring that I have ulterior motives.

First off: The word you are looking for is "imply" not "infer".

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/imply.html

Secondly: No. It is not. I made no claim to your motives, did I? In fact, I have no idea what Jim Hill's ulterior motives are and I made no comparison between the two of you other than a willingness to represent rumor as fact. You can be as paranoid as you want about this, but it will not change what I actually said.

What you infer is out of my control. If I wanted to say you were exploiting this for financial gain, believe me, I would have been quite direct about it.

simbeau Wrote:As I've said believe it or not.

I don't. And based off what you have offered, I don't think anyone should.

Traahn Wrote:Last time I saw a debate like this happen was when someone was claiming they could beat the Tron arcade high score. He wasn't believed by some and was seemingly rediculed. Shortly thereafter, he officially beat the official high score. Not saying debates like this shouldn't happen... just that maybe he is truthful. Considering the last 'Hill' rumours are probably off-base, it doesn't mean everyone has ill or misinformed intentions. We should get back to good TR2N discussion

The film has yet to be written. There is no real evidence that it is greenlit. The test footage we saw was not a trailer or necessarily representative of the films content and there is no evidence of actual pre-production of a film.

When there is real news, great. But purporting something as fact when it is rumor is an action that deserves to be challenged. There are those on this forum with legitimate connections. Notice that they know well enough to keep silent on information that is not verifiable or proper to share. If this news is truly so volatile that it would cost someone their job, then it would probably be better to remain silent.

simbeau Wrote: I can't believe I'm back in this. I never said it was green lit. I never said the script was done. They're working on it. The process is moving forward. That's all I said. Good lord.

Good lord indeed.

I'm speaking of those spreading rumors in general, not you specifically. If I meant you, I would have made my statement quite clear.

Traahn brought up the subject of those spreading rumors as a general point. I was responding to him. So again, I was not speaking 100% about you and I did not address my comment to you.

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In regards to the comic posted above:

The funny thing is, due to space restrictions, we had to cut a The Dude" scene from the comic series.

lurkinghorror Wrote:Let me take a step out of the debate here a minute. Simbeau, I was not attempting to imply that you are doing anything for monetary gain. I don't mean to imply that you are purposefully or maliciously fabricating things. If it seems that way, I apologize. It was not my intent. We're off to a bad start. But it's not so far gone we can't put it behind us. In the future, I'll try to be less picky about wording you might use in your understandable zeal to spread the news of TR2N. Peace?

Deal, and I'm sorry that I got defensive. I guess after all these years dealing with immature opinionated little shits all over the net you get used to sticking up for yourself first and asking questions second.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

simbeau Wrote: Deal, and I'm sorry that I got defensive. I guess after all these years dealing with immature opinionated little shits all over the net you get used to sticking up for yourself first and asking questions second.

I know how THAT feels...

simbeau Wrote: lurkinghorror Wrote:Let me take a step out of the debate here a minute. Simbeau, I was not attempting to imply that you are doing anything for monetary gain. I don't mean to imply that you are purposefully or maliciously fabricating things. If it seems that way, I apologize. It was not my intent. We're off to a bad start. But it's not so far gone we can't put it behind us. In the future, I'll try to be less picky about wording you might use in your understandable zeal to spread the news of TR2N. Peace? Deal, and I'm sorry that I got defensive. I guess after all these years dealing with immature opinionated little shits all over the net you get used to sticking up for yourself first and asking questions second.

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Plot twist- Dillinger

Mr. Dillinger walks away from his desk after he saw the message his desktop texed him. Flynn created the games he stole it read. and -END OF LINE.

Confused at first, he ran to the Encom helipad, he runs out of options, how can he control this situation, as he noticed the flicker inside the lab. He runs back to see if it's on fire.

He gets to the lab, seeing noone he loads a backup of Sark. all of the sudden he sees a bright blue flash, and a voice - it's a hologram of the MCP poised below the laser. It couldn't be possible, "how could this be here" he thinks to himself, as he starts to converse with this dreamy image of the MCP.

"User: Dillinger. What is your function."

Dillinger replies: "Explain current configuration."
MCP: "User, your permissions are unacceptable access denied."

Dillenger thought he was hallucinating. I walked toward the image and it instantly rezzed him.

The MCP had him concealed in a cell. Flynn walked up to him. Dillinger snapped. "What's happening here?"

Flynn: "Oh... look what the laser did, seems to have a mind of it's own."
Dillinger: "I walked up to the hologram in the laser, and I.. I.."
Flynn: "You got very self aware, and you're lucky he didn't reload your Sark program. You would have died."

Dillenger: "Flynn, what makes me believe a thing like that, I wrote Sark."
Flynn: "Your MCP shared memory with Sark, he was instantly destroyed, I personally destroyed the MCP, to bring order to Encom once and for all."

Flynn couldn't tell Dillinger that Sark was now another user, and that he would be mentally impaired if he were rezzed with memory injection. The saturated areas of his mind would turn against his self will, Dillingers inner self would be corrupted beyond a calculable measure of normal conscience. He may self destruct.

Flynn says: "We'll allow you to rebuild your standing in Encom on one condition: That you step down as CEO, and assist in protecting this system from outsiders. The game is yours, but your job is mine. You now see why you have been relieved, this is more important than you or me."
Dillinger says: "You leave me.. I must step down? and give you my job?
Flynn: "Yes, or I will leave you here, and, you will go before the board on your actions, which will leave you w/o a job."
Dillinger: "You win, you've gone so far to make this happen, I still don't understand how this happened, but I will take your instruction, please forgive me. The start to a new Encom will be quite amazing with this new technology I'm witnessing now."
Flynn: "Very well."

Alan1 raises the field around the cell and Dillinger explores as he walks to the control tower. Seeing Alan, Flynn and Lora, he's instantly humbled in the majesty of the sight before him - he thought he must have died in the laser, then Alan commands the MCP to inject him.

Dillinger lights up like a strobing disco ball.

He realized that he's awakened to more than the awareness he had, this time he get's fully rezzed.

Things to include in TR2N:
Live environments utilizing glowing wireframe used in the original.
Good guy bad guy syndrome left out.
New enemys find Encom.
superweapon tech.

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