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MCPcomputer
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Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Friday, January, 18, 2008 6:22 AM

Greetings programs,

So you know how some movies have a hidden meaning.. like The Matrix... Waking Life.. A Scanner Darkly etc?

Well don't you think TRON has a deeper hidden meaning? Something the is connected to real life?

All these years.. I suspected it did. And as I looked into life more and more. I have concluded TRON has a hidden meaning.

What do you all think? Do you think it was just a story someone made up? Or did it have a deeper meaning?

Let me know what you think.

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lazor3001
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Saturday, January, 19, 2008 10:26 AM
I think it might.


If you look at it from a Christian perspective, you can see a lot of parallels(but you can see a lot of Christian parallels in a lot of movies too, like Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia).



But anyway, think of it this way. The MCP is the devil, or satan, whatever. And ICP's and Sark are like his demon army. Now the Users in the computer world are like God in our world. So Flynn could be looked at as being God. So lets just say that in this parallel explanation Flynn is Jesus. So if Flynn is Jesus, then when he throws himself into the MCP that symbolizes Christ dying on the cross for the world, since computer Flynn derezzed in the MCP for the computer world.


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death-program
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Saturday, January, 19, 2008 10:53 AM
I never thought about it that way, but I can see how that would make sense.

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Jademz
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Saturday, January, 19, 2008 11:11 PM
Tron had alot of hidden meanings.

For instance is it possible that the security of a research facility be so mickey mouse? Since the reign of the MCP, did he hide somewhere in Disney World, and remain there, or even Disneyland?

What was going through his most primal circuits when he saw Sark's skull cracked open and oozing into the crevices of his plateau? If the MCP was so big and bad, why did Flynn leap off into his head, Then never heard of again?
Did Flynn become one with the MCP, and once merged, the MCP posessed his soul, afterward appearing dead? Afterall, he brought Flynn into the machine in the first place, Thus he achieved mind control as well..

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Goldrick
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Sunday, January, 20, 2008 7:52 AM
A couple of years ago I wrote an essay about ideologies in film and used TRON as my choice, The only main thing I could dig up was the religion angle (I think there was something else but I forget).

Needless to say the essay was initially given a fail but only because the guy who marked it had (sadly) never seen the film so had no idea what I was talking about!


 
Jademz
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Sunday, January, 20, 2008 2:33 PM
I started a thread about this topic, incase you're interested (I'd like to link to more, but I think they're MIA).


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iGame3D
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Thursday, March, 13, 2008 4:48 AM
There are obvious drug references in TRON.

From the "Users" to the "Holy water" that they drink and the euphoria they get from it, straight out of 1980's cocaine popularity, although the whole world is very much shroomy.

If you experience the power of fungus you'll know what I mean.

A bunch of other little things they said that I forget now, but its definitely in there.


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TRON.dll
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Thursday, March, 13, 2008 4:55 PM
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iGame3D
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Thursday, March, 13, 2008 4:59 PM
Well it certainly doesn't get more blatant than Mario, accept for maybe Underdogs use of methamphetmines, but he's not a video game, until the movie comes out.


 
Cam_the_Man
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Tuesday, March, 18, 2008 3:54 PM

I've never done drugs.
I press A to get high.


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Jademz
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Tuesday, March, 18, 2008 6:53 PM
iGame3D Wrote:There are obvious drug references in TRON.

From the "Users" to the "Holy water" that they drink and the euphoria they get from it, straight out of 1980's cocaine popularity, although the whole world is very much shroomy.

If you experience the power of fungus you'll know what I mean.

A bunch of other little things they said that I forget now, but its definitely in there.




I personally don't need or use prescribed, illegal, or destructive drugs, as it's a means to a self destructive environment, and manipulative characteristics, abusive tendencies, and while degraded, one may become rationalized by self coerced fixations, exploiting further, a honest and more subtly coherent environment.

While I disagree with your opinions, one could make some equivocal reality ambiguously declaring impression and expression.

Rofl, I get a kick out of that... but seriously, the movie is really just a complex expression of everything enjoyable about how one may have lived inside of a computer world, how it can occur, and brilliantly portrayed as prescriptively as one may experience thier culture every day, in that day. It must have been fun to be there.
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TRON.dll
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Tuesday, March, 18, 2008 7:04 PM
iGame3D Wrote:Well it certainly doesn't get more blatant than Mario



Funny how, in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, when you get a Super Mushroom, your character does a little "happy dance".

Back on topic, tho. I also dissagree with the drug deal. Seriously, pure energy in the form of water is likely not a reference to street drugs. I think MCPcomputer's idea is much more believable, as I constantly see stuff that says "TRON, the Jesus movie of 1982" and so on.

Kinda funny how all of the Catholic protestors are yelling about vauge religious references in Star Wars instead of TRON, lol.

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TheReelTodd
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Wednesday, March, 19, 2008 5:27 PM
iGame3D Wrote:There are obvious drug references in TRON.

From the "Users" to the "Holy water" that they drink and the euphoria they get from it, straight out of 1980's cocaine popularity, although the whole world is very much shroomy.

If you experience the power of fungus you'll know what I mean.

A bunch of other little things they said that I forget now, but its definitely in there.





I've never experienced the "power of fungus" before, but I don't think there were any intentional drug references in TRON. I think a lot of dialogue in film and TV can be turned in to drug references if people want to think of them that way. There are sometimes intentional drug references in productions too, but I'm talking about regular dialogue that was just meant to be straight forward dialogue, that might also be intrepreted as hidden or masked drug references.

I think the pure energy source (glowing water) had an intentional intoxicating effect on the programs when they drank it, but I doubt that part was intended as booze glorification or anything. I don't even think it was meant to be like booze in the drunken sense either - just the intoxicating and exciting feeling of enjoying something they had all been deprived from for a long time. Imagine how it might feel to be deprived of energy (like the programs in TRON) for a long duration and then to suddenly be able to ingest energy in a pure form like that.

Was the "mushroom power" in the Super Mario Brothers games a drug reference? Or was it just a good example of Japanese creativity? I've read explanations of both sides of it. It's fun to joke about it being a drug reference - I've heard a few comedian routines go there and they were quite amusing. But was it really an intentional drug reference? There are a lot of really strange and cool Japanese games out there. Their sense of style and gaming design is very different than what's most popular in the western world. Perhaps there is some misinterpretation of otherwise innocent cultural differences.

Pac Man eats the power pill (or energizer) and gains the power to eat the ghosts (or monsters) in doing so. I doubt this is a reference to drugs known for their abilities to kill pain and offer temporary increased strength. I think it's a simple power-up. Most games have some kind of power-up in them to keep the game play interesting and balanced.

The term "user" has been around for drug abuse for a long time. When TRON came out, it was also the term for a computer operator. They had "user" names to log in and a "user" account to get access to whatever their security clearance level was. This existed in the computer-based professions long before home computing was really affordable. The term "user" in TRON was never used in a way that might have a double-meaning as a drug user. The "users" in TRON were seen much like gods to the programs (after all, they did create the programs), and simply a term used to describe a computer operator or program writer in the film.

I'm not shooting you down or anything. I think it's fun to wonder about the deeper meaning of things and there are often hidden jokes and things in movies put in there by the director or production crew, or whatever. I don't think that TRON had any intentional secret drug glorification in it though. I don't see any direct evidence of it, personally.






 
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Wednesday, March, 19, 2008 6:35 PM
TheReelTodd wrote:I think a lot of dialogue in film and TV can be turned in to drug references if people want to think of them that way.

Sad part is, most people want to think of it that way. That way, they can sue the producer into oblivion therefore getting a ton of cash and simultainiously ruin the film/show.

Was the "mushroom power" in the Super Mario Brothers games a drug reference? Or was it just a good example of Japanese creativity?

Or maybe good Japanese creativity comes from drugs, as fully indicated by this game.

Pac Man eats the power pill (or energizer) and gains the power to eat the ghosts (or monsters) in doing so.

The way you put it (which, coincidentially, is the way the board game puts it. Yes, there was a board game), it sounds plain wrong. But again, I suppose that's kinda like what you said above.

TRON didn't have intentional drug references. Steven Lisburger I believe has stated that there were several references to christianity and God and so on. I think he says most of this stuff in the "Making of TRON" feature on the supplemental material disk of the 20th anninversary DVD set.

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TheReelTodd
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Wednesday, March, 19, 2008 8:01 PM
TRON.dll Wrote:Wow, I sounded like a total geek there. Maybe I should retake that geek quiz...

I think we're all total geeks here. That's why we all get along so well!

You're in good company, my friend.






 
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Tuesday, March, 25, 2008 4:16 PM
Cam_the_Man Wrote:
I've never done drugs.
I press A to get high.
You know, Super Mario Bros. Press A to jump...
...
I guess it wasn't that funny
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Tuesday, March, 25, 2008 4:32 PM
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Tuesday, March, 25, 2008 4:55 PM

I recently got out the ol' Super Nintendo and started playing it again.
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Cam_the_Man: "No! Not all of Dallas!"
 
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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Monday, March, 31, 2008 8:39 AM
The 'message' I got out of tron was simple and straightforward.

'no matter where you go, life's going to knock you about, so start hitting back before you get deleted.'

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Re: Does the movie TRON have a hidden meaning?

on Monday, March, 31, 2008 4:29 PM

It just ocurred to me that TRON has not been in any Scary Movie-esque films. It'd be interesting as to how'd they go about parodying it.


In the midst of Team Fortress 2:
TRON.dll: (Captures the intelligence) "I have take the intelligence and it will cause meltdown!"
Cam_the_Man: "No! Not all of Dallas!"
 
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