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Cam_the_Man Wrote: What I'm saying is, in relation to us, Prigrams move MUCH faster than us in the computer, but they view it as normal. So, in the real world, in relation to us, they would move MUCH faster, but to them it would be normal. Jus like Clockstoppers. (Hasn't anyone seen that movie?)

But being in the real world and having flesh and blood bodies they'd be incapable of moving at such high speeds. They would be restricted to the limitations of humans.

Brycea Wrote: To amuse myself I always wondered what happens to the orange that Dr. Gibbs digitizes

I'd always imagined the orange appearing on somebody's "desk" in the digital world.

Program1: "What in the name of the Users? Hey Program2 come look at this..."



Program 2: "Come look at what?"
(lol)

Not to make this string any longer, but... I had always believed that the Master Control Program had managed to "figure out" a way to not only digitize Flynn, but have him embody/ resemble a "program" once he had been digitized. Doesn't the MCP say something about wanting to see how Flynn would do in his world? Thus, my belief is that the MPC would not/could not convert Flynn into the electronic world unless he knew he'd be able to get him onto the game grids...

Well that was touched on in Tron 2.0. Basically the MCP was an AI powerful enough to handle the comprehensive data of a human being and transer it. The MCP did want to see Flynn on the game grids. Essentially the game grids would be a separate section, a partition if you will, of the Encom server.

TheReelTodd: I've stated this before, in a similar thread, but I don't think that the programs in TRON were actually like people. They were shown or personified for the proposes of the story and as a symbolic representation of their User in the digital world.

I was just thinking back and I thought...it was actually in the behind the scenes maybe, that they actually say they did it that way intentionally so that "a bit of the user is in each program they write". So that being the case your thinking isn't far off at all
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Daddyo Wrote:I'd imagine way the heck in the future & AI is a reality (it's not really horribly bad now), people could imprint their personality into a program and allow it to carry on without them.

I told my wife about this thread, and she said that this already was in a movie! Seen superman #1?? His dad was exactly this when superman was in his polar home. His digital dad was around with wisdom for him. But the implications of this capability could be taken way further...

I suppose rimmer in red dwarf really is the same thing too. But the method of doing a basic version is actually available now. Start up your own AI on www.a-i.com and see how far you can get. The AI Tron that I started on there only has a few things programmed into it, from people who talked to it while in-game, but you can load tons of stuff into your own, once you get a password.

This is really a great thread you drummed up Lonesquiff, look what happens when you get people who think alike together in the same virtual room. You get things you might not be able to come up with on your own. Just like a musical band, or a team of engineers on a project.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

Brycea Wrote: To amuse myself I always wondered what happens to the orange that Dr. Gibbs digitizes; I imagine this huge program-like sphere of an orange suddenly appears. A couple of warriors are assigned to guard it, poking at it with their weapons as any/all nearby programs staring at it for the alient object it is. Then, it diapears as suddenly as it had arrived.

We had a thread about this a while back. I deleted my pictures though and I dont have them anywhere anymore. Stil... we had some fun with it:

http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=top&id=302731

Hmmm...well, my takes on this...

As pointed out before, something that never had any physical form at all cannot REmaterialise. However, I have no problem whatsoever with programs taking on "form" in the physical world...as a hologram! as was mentioned earlier. This would be like Rimmer from Red Dwarf (who is not "this guy", but is only one of THE BEST CHARACTERS FROM ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS _EVER_!!) or Automan, who is the actual first hologram character on TV and predates them all, baby! (Also, in that show, they flat out said he WAS a "program" and had come from "the digital world"; the whole show is kind of like a Tron-universe fanfic...)
And then there's the Doctor on Voyager, Vic Fontaine, Moriarty, yada yada...

Or, their consciousness could be transferred into a robot, or, I suppose if you had a program who really, really wanted to be out in our world and a human whose body was healthy but they were a total vegetable, you could give the human's brain some kind of cybernetic implant and put the program's personality code in there. That's the only way they could be in a human body, I think.

As for the time-scale thing...simple! They would automatically change over into our scale when they reached our world. Why? Because Flynn did when he went to THEIR world! Think about it--if he had been thinking at normal human speed, he would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy slow compared to the program people. They would've thought he was stuck in a data loop or something.


As for when they would "die"...well, that depends on exactly what they come out here _as_. If they fully come out as a human just the way that Flynn (sort of) became a program person, then well, they would die when they reach the natural end of that life span, or have an accident or sickness--same as any other human. But since I don't see that happening, I would say that they would "die" if they got deleted, a virus, got their personality algorithms corrupted to the point where it wasn't the same person anymore, etc. And a power outage wouldn't KILL them, but it would make it so they couldn't be in our world for a while. (Presumaby their data would still be stored back on the original computer, unless _it_ got fried somehow.)
They would never age, or get physically sick, since videogame characters don't. They would be vulnerable, but in ways other than we are.

And, that's all I have to say about that. Sorry to bore you with all of my rambling. :P

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