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Posts: 4,450 | Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Sunday, April, 15, 2007 9:27 PM
Hey Everyone,
I was quickly chatting with Kmon the other day in MSN messenger about the two servers that I am going to be getting over here. And I was doing some windows shopping at a couple of computers stores to check out on some memory for one of the servers that I will be bringing home. Here are the specs to give you an idea of what they are. They were used in the company that I am currently working at. And they were going to toss them out into the garbage since they had upgraded to two better servers.
Compaq Proliant ML370
Dual PIII 800 MHZ slot 1
1.5 gigs of ram
10/100 networking card
gigabit networking card
4 18.2 scsi ultra2
ATI IIC video card
Storage array 341 raid 5
IBM eserver 8669-4RX
Single Pentium III 1.266 GHZ
256 megs of Ram
10/100 networking card
gigabit networking card
4 18.2 SCSI Ultra2
Storage array for raid 5
Not bad for something for free I think anyways I was scoping some of the computer places that I know of over here. Best Buy and Future Shop I could easily rule out for finding anything useful from them as for speciality parts for servers. Since they deal mainly with regular old off the shelf stuff that people can buy and hold no things that could be ordered through the, at all. Since it is too specialized for them to get.
I was looking to get some memory for the eserver that I will be bringing home that I might be using for one thing. As well as using the proliant as for learning more about oracle and since that one is a dual processor I might be able to get by in terms for making it a small production machine for personal use. And hook it up to my small network that I have here. The other I am looking to get some 168 pin ECC memory. I may have found a place that still sells it and it is available. I need two of them in order to bring it up to 1 gig of ram. And from Kingston Memory they were fairly expensive to get them directly from their web site. As for making it a dual processor. I would have to open an account on E-bay to find the cpu kit for it since I have one other available socket open for that. And the kits seem relatively cheap it seems. If I can get the memory first to bring it half way up there at least when I do bring it online I'll be able to do something with it. The second processor I'll be able to get later on. Or I might give it away to someone that i know that could use this machine for something at home to learn with.
Software wise neither of them came with an operating system and I am lucky enough to have some OS's here to install on them for free. So it is going to be fun getting them up and running on them.
Icould if I wanted to put them in plain text mode.
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Sunday, April, 29, 2007 2:49 PM
I was wondering if anyone else here with the exception of kmon and myself here.(Soon at least when I can get the servers home.) Is anyone running a personal server at their home for other things like storing home made video's, mp3's, etc?
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Posts: 1,005 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Sunday, April, 29, 2007 4:16 PM
I do what your talking about, but I just use DNS. I think it just comes with your IP address. However, I know the difference between DNS and a server, and I think it would be cool to support servers on my system. I like what you're doing. where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Sunday, April, 29, 2007 5:31 PM
Well I know that the proliant and the eserver that I am going to be getting are going to be for home use. I was speaking with a professor of mine and he is looking for a server at home to do some stuff with so the old eserver will be his. And the proliant will be the one I am going to be using here. Yeah that is Domain name server. It what you log on with when your computer gets the IP addres from the DHCP from a router or from a server that is running dhcp on it.
These two I'll be setting up strictly with ubuntu linux on it since they are more more stable than the windows servers I find. And worked with in the past over here. Seen too many of them go dwn due to not being patched properly or not configured right.
SInce I am already using linux on three computers here and I have done enough tinkering around with them I think its the best choice for them.
Hikaru.EXE Wrote:I do what your talking about, but I just use DNS. I think it just comes with your IP address. However, I know the difference between DNS and a server, and I think it would be cool to support servers on my system. I like what you're doing. |
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Friday, May, 04, 2007 6:37 AM
I have two Proliant ML350's at home.
One is running 24/7 as LAN/webserver, the other is used as a testing machine.
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Friday, May, 04, 2007 8:31 AM
Thats cool whatcha running on them. Just for curiousity sake? Windows, Linux/unix? I just a burn in of ubuntu Feisty fawn. Whixh has been good on my laptop over here. I might stick in red hat fedora 5 on one of them. Or Sun solaris 10 I had made a order already for it. To get the free cd from them.
ssh Wrote:I have two Proliant ML350's at home.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Friday, May, 04, 2007 10:52 AM
Both are running Linux.
The 24/7 one runs currently on CentOS 4.4, the other one has CentOS 5.0 on it. CentOS is based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux and free _____________________________________
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Friday, May, 04, 2007 1:37 PM
Thats cool. I haven't tried it yet. but I will be taking a look into that when I get a chance tonight. I have a laptop and a desktop working with Dapper drake and Feisty fawn from Ubuntu. When I get these two servers in I was thinking with Redhat fedora 5. Or going with feisty fawn server edition. I haven't decided yet.
ssh Wrote:Both are running Linux.
The 24/7 one runs currently on CentOS 4.4, the other one has CentOS 5.0 on it. CentOS is based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux and free |
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Friday, May, 04, 2007 4:09 PM
Compucore Wrote:I haven't decided yet. |
Well, try them both and find out which one you like best.
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Friday, May, 04, 2007 10:19 PM
That is true have you tried ubuntu ssh? If so how did you like it? For now I find it great for what I need it for my workstation and my laptop over here. Kind of fooled my colleague when I was runing it on my laptop over here one day when I was doing some paperwork on it.
ssh Wrote:Compucore Wrote:I haven't decided yet. |
Well, try them both and find out which one you like best.
In the end, that's what counts
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Saturday, May, 05, 2007 4:51 AM
Although I know Ubuntu to be user friendly, it's not my favorite.
I'm more into Red Hat based distro's.
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Saturday, May, 05, 2007 12:15 PM
Thats okay though to each their own. I don't mind red hat that much over here. I tried Fedora 5 not too long ago And something didn't agree with my laptop.
ssh Wrote:Although I know Ubuntu to be user friendly, it's not my favorite.
I'm more into Red Hat based distro's.
Probably because I'm RH certified ... heh heh heh |
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Saturday, May, 05, 2007 12:15 PM
Thats okay though to each their own. I don't mind red hat that much over here. I tried Fedora 5 not too long ago And something didn't agree with my laptop.
ssh Wrote:Although I know Ubuntu to be user friendly, it's not my favorite.
I'm more into Red Hat based distro's.
Probably because I'm RH certified ... heh heh heh |
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Saturday, May, 05, 2007 1:49 PM
Fedora is known for that: using "bleeding-edge" technology can cause bad bits
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Saturday, May, 05, 2007 4:41 PM
Yeah I know. Maybe since you are certified red hat maybe you can answer me this. Since I've used the red hat very little over here. The fedora core 5 after the installation of it went well over here for it. And it was running fine no problem it was snappy to the extent that the pages would pop up when surfing on through mozilla and other applications. But when I went to do the updates for it to get the new packages for it. It would literally hang there and it seemed to have problems in retrieving the packages. Where as for the ubuntu synaptic package one which is the equivilant to it for their own updates.Never really much of a problem in accessing their packages for updates. I am just wondering here if it is a network related when connecting to the server to get the packages that it is dropping off or getting cut off from them. Because it shown me what needed to be updated in the listing of it. But didn't even try to get them after I said okay. Seems kind of odd. And it was through the wired connection.
I can give you the specs of the machine in question in private to let you know the exact model and what hardware is in it. Maybe it might have been mis configured somewhere.
ssh Wrote:Fedora is known for that: using "bleeding-edge" technology can cause bad bits
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Sunday, May, 06, 2007 8:23 AM
As I mentioned before, Fedora uses the latest of what is around. This is generally known as "bleeding-edge technology". As a result of that, it can happen that after an update, certain things cause problem or might be broken (mostly immediately followed by another update). Release cycle is aproximately 2 versions a year and when a new release comes out, the 2nd before it stops being supported.
Fedora is partly community and partly Red Hat. Certain features of Fedora might find their way in the next release of RHEL (Red Hat' Enterprise Linux).
RHEL (and clones of RHEL) are very stable. Updates are available for 5 years. Drawback might be that the programs used aren't always the newest (hence the stability since all problems are carefully solved).
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Tuesday, May, 08, 2007 8:03 PM
SSH your not going to beleive this. My versions of Sun microsystems Sorlaris 10 came in with the developers tools for it. I think for the servers should work just as good as red hat or Ubuntu right??? I've seen solaris working great on their own ultra 5's and Ultra 10's... Since I was helping a friend of mine with his two sun machines. Does the tron dance of joy for free operating systems.
ssh Wrote:As I mentioned before, Fedora uses the latest of what is around. This is generally known as "bleeding-edge technology". As a result of that, it can happen that after an update, certain things cause problem or might be broken (mostly immediately followed by another update). Release cycle is aproximately 2 versions a year and when a new release comes out, the 2nd before it stops being supported.
Fedora is partly community and partly Red Hat. Certain features of Fedora might find their way in the next release of RHEL (Red Hat' Enterprise Linux).
RHEL (and clones of RHEL) are very stable. Updates are available for 5 years. Drawback might be that the programs used aren't always the newest (hence the stability since all problems are carefully solved). |
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Wednesday, May, 09, 2007 2:06 AM
Compucore Wrote:SSH your not going to beleive this. My versions of Sun microsystems Sorlaris 10 came in with the developers tools for it. I think for the servers should work just as good as red hat or Ubuntu right??? |
Just give it a yank and see how you like it.
Solaris is Unix based (but used Linux software too)
Shouldn't be a problem. _____________________________________
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Wednesday, May, 09, 2007 8:19 AM
Yeah I know that already. I have actually used it on my friends 2 sun systems over here. I have just finished making a write up for a professor of mine for his web site for ubuntu. This is the next write up that i am going to take a crack at in triny it out on my laptop. I have seen already some of the snapshots of what it looks like. Compared to the earlier versions of the same OS. This looks sweeter than the order vesions. Should be just as good as the older ones. With a 9 year support for it. Makes something really good to use on any computer systems.
ssh Wrote:Compucore Wrote:SSH your not going to beleive this. My versions of Sun microsystems Sorlaris 10 came in with the developers tools for it. I think for the servers should work just as good as red hat or Ubuntu right??? |
Just give it a yank and see how you like it.
Solaris is Unix based (but used Linux software too)
Shouldn't be a problem. |
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Posts: 0 | Re: Compaq proliant ML370 & IBM eserver on Thursday, May, 10, 2007 6:27 AM
Compucore Wrote:With a 9 year support for it. Makes something really good to use on any computer systems. |
Yes, I noticed that on the Solaris site (you made me look).
No bad, not bad at all.
Four extra years compared to Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
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