gighindro Wrote:Again, very good! p.s. For the shading which kind of approach you use? gradient lightning-oriented? and for the outline? finally, which program you use? Bye!

Thank you! I use a program called Realsoft3D (http://realsoft.fi). It has been around a long time and is a true raytracer, however, it has many settings and can render in many ways.

For the lighting I used a single light point (main light) set to infinity with parallel rays, in addition to a special light made from a rectangle which produces the low-quality noise. The outline is a feature of the software and I do have some control over the thickness, so I'll drop it down and see how it looks.

I do have plenty of information about lightcycle construction, in addition to what wwwmwww, queball, and others have provided. You should check out this thread that wwwmwww and I (and a few others here and there) are currently talking in:

http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=top&id=336281
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wwwmwww Wrote:However I've noticed both of you outline the orange parts too, like the outher edge of the rear-wheel for example. My recollection is that its just the black and gray parts that are outlined. I thought it was like the Tank in that regard that only certain parts are outlined. In the Tank's case only the cannon is outlined. Am I misremembering? I'll check the DVD again when I get home.

You're right wwwmwww the colored part in facts isn't outlined, but I there's some frame rendering were the black/gray part are outlined and the shell (the side windows) too but sometimes not!. which are your opinion about the right version (if, at this point there's a right one?order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pill

gighindro Wrote: You're right wwwmwww the colored part in facts isn't outlined, but I there's some frame rendering were the black/gray part are outlined and the shell (the side windows) too but sometimes not!. which are your opinion about the right version (if, at this point there's a right one?

In my book its all opinion and I hesitate to call things "right" and "wrong" in this case. I personally believe the way the outlining effect was added to the models was via a 2D process added to the final rendered image via a technique very similiar to what is talked about here:

http://www.wwwmwww.com/TRON/NehGat00.pdf
It looks like the software you and Matthew are using has something like this built into it. The official release of POV-Ray doesn't so I'll have to build my outline line-by-line. Anyways with the 2D technique the line width doesn't vary with distance from the camera. That's why the recognizers are nearly all red in the distance but up close the red outline looks very thin. On the light cycle I think the outline effect is varied from some shots to others. In many shots its so thin its very hard to see and as its white its even harder to see on the lighted side of the light cycle. Its usually much easier to see in shadow. There may even be a few sequences where its turned off all together, its really hard to say. I personally like the outline effect and I believe it adds something. Its just if I add it my primitive count will shoot up into the hundreds as I'll have to build the outline just as I had to build the light cycle itself. This would slow down animation attemps but I still want to try it. I have the added advantage that after I do build it I'll be able to do some thing with it that you can't since your outline isn't physically modeled. Stuff like this for example:


Keep up the great work...

No if I wasn't so slow myself...
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I haven't been able to read through all of this thread because I'm back on the Sector after a long period of computer-brokeniness, and I'm checking through loads and loads of posts. But the renders are totally amazing - very very true to the movie. Phenomenal stuff, gighindro!

Looking great!!!

Now to get back to playing with my model...
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