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Posts: 0 | Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Sunday, June, 11, 2006 7:37 PM
What happens when you take an everyday, ordinary story of weed killing gone wrong and throw in some old-school visual effects?
Weed Killer Gone Wrong @ www.TheReelTodd.com
Weed Killer Gone Wrong @ YouTube.com (where you can rate the video and post comments ** hint ** )
(look - choices!)
Told in a style reminiscent of Max Headroom, this is the true story of weed killing gone wrong. The wife brought home some weed killer. The husband used it. Something went wrong. Now the husband and wife are at odds, each pointing the finger of blame at the other.
The style in which this story is told is both an homage and parody of Max Headroom. I was (and still am) a big Max Headroom fan. Video blogging sounded like fun, but can appear plain and boring (to the viewer). I wondered what would happen if I took an ordinary story and added some old-school visual fun in the vein of Max Headroom, as an experiment. I chose a look and style of early 80's computers, with the green monochrome look and ASCII text in the background (instead of primary colored lines). Max Headroom existed 20 minutes into the future. I figured I'd venture 20 minutes into the past with an old school computer looking, Max Headroom-like character - my digital 8-bit alter ego (seen here).
So watch the video, and then participate!
Who is to blame?
YOU decide!
No need to read further if you're pressed for time.
More stuff:
I had originally intended on producing a series of video blogs like this, each featuring a different story from my life. I didn't think it would take long to produce these videos - the visual FX are generally simple. But I was wrong. This was indeed a pain in the ass to complete. It took more than the estimated 3 or 4 days (couple hours each day). It also ate up more hard drive space than expected (frame processing files, etc.). And it is loaded with technical glitches, and I don't mean the stuttering (that was intentional). From incredibly long video compiling times to buggy and shoddy editing tools, it took well over a week to complete. That, and waaaaaay too much of my very limited free time. Although, most of the time was spent trying to get things a certain way and doing battle on the digital editing deck of doom. I really need a new (much faster) system and better editing tools.
I showed an early edit of this to some guys at work. These guys all got to see On the Cutting Room Floor of Oblivion before I posted it in the net and they all loved it (Cutting Room Floor, that is). They were not so impressed with this video. One complained it looked too much like something out of The Matrix (which was unintentional and explained in the FAQ on my site). They all said that it would have been better if the story were funnier. The whole idea was originally to see if I could take an ordinary, plain story, and make it fun by telling it in this Max Headroom-ish style. The answer is I guess not. I do have some funnier stories that I could do like this, but I'm not sure I will. This was a hell of a lot more work than I expected it would be. With the right tools, I could have completed this in just a few days (couple hours each day). But I don't have the right tools and it damn near drives me insane working with what I've got. Probably not worth the time and hassle to do another. But I figured I'd give it a try.
Please let me know what you thought. AND let me know who you think is to blame.
NOTE: I originally posted this in another thread, but I'm starting a new one because the focus has shifted more toward what this is and not so much where it was hosted originally.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Sunday, June, 11, 2006 7:48 PM
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Posts: 4,467 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Sunday, June, 11, 2006 8:19 PM
I tried watching the version on YouTube first, but sometimes YouTube is really slow to download. Which is what happened with me. So I watched the version on your site instead. (It's higher quality, anyway! )
The link to YouTube has a problem, though. It ends up becoming:
http://http://www.youtube.com/%20http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eRZ3ATORZU
Frankly, I thought the clip was great! I felt the way you presented the story was lively and funny. It's not the most exciting story - but the way you emoted it, and the video and sound effects - made it much more interesting.
If you think about it, any story can be boring if told the wrong way. How many times has someone told a joke, only to screw it up? So it's not funny any more? The way it's expressed, the timing, and the delivery of the punchline are extremely important. A flat delivery ruins the joke, no matter how good it's supposed to be.
So I'd say your experiment is a success, not a failure! It will be interesting to see what other people have to say, though. (I have a feeling they're going to agree with me.)
As for who's to blame? Hmm . . . my first thought was to say the wife. But now I think: both! The wife for buying the wrong kind; and the husband for not being suspicious enough of the difference and maybe testing it on a small patch first, before using it everywhere.
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FreedomForever User
Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Sunday, June, 11, 2006 8:20 PM
Yay, finished-ness! I think both of you are to blame...
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Qix77 User
Posts: 2,991 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 1:41 AM
Cool... A Todd Headroom in a matrix style... Next thing you'll know, Todd will be selling Coke-a-Cola... lol...
When all else fails, blame the wife... lol...
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wwwmwww User
Posts: 1,230 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 11:43 AM
VERY VERY COOL!!! I love Max Headroom!!! Now that is a series that NEEDS to come out on DVD. If I remember correctly I liked the series more then the movie.
As for who is to blame... I'd say husbands never get very far blaiming wives so it's best if he accepts the blame and moves on and buys his own weed killer the next time.
Now I hope you keep making the cool movies Todd. They are always very cool. Any easter eggs in this one?
I also understand the free time issue. I've had zero myself for a while now. I've GOT to get back to rendering...
Carl
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MutoidMan User
Posts: 2,232 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 12:52 PM
LOL... "Who is to blame?"
Dig it:
If you can learn to accept all responsibility for everything that goes wrong, then not only will you make your wife happier in the long run-and face it, if she's not happy then you can bet you're not happy-but you will avoid suffering the fate of those married men who never learn this vital defense mechanism and keel over at an early age of a stress-induced heart attack.
Or go win the argument if you want. You'll be well on your way towards personally nourishing the grass over your early grave. She wins, you lose.
Your choice.
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Posts: 1,760 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 12:53 PM
Yay, you did finish it!
Well, I think you've made a boring, everyday story very funny through use of randomness and strange, unexpected stuff.
And I think I saw a few hidden messages in there... but mainly just a few words that your body was blocking. Although I did find a TRON one. And I can also see quite a few in that preview image you've posted ^up there^ somewhere.
Well, that was a really cool video. Loved the retro monochrome effects and glitchiness!
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Posts: 2,939 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 12:57 PM
My gaw, looks like the mafia made a hit on your lawn Todd!
Love the video Todd! Your a wonderful nutcase Todd, PLEASE for the love of Tron don't change that about yourself! You did a great job recreating the Max Headroom personaity glitches. I always loved that about the character. That's what made him feel real like a machine. Those little quirks also added to his humor and personality. I loved the Max Headroom series. It truely rocked. Thanks to Scifi Channel I watched the series and became a fan. How can you not love M-M-Max Headroo-room? That is one series I would love on dvd. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue_bezel/ |
MutoidMan User
Posts: 2,232 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 1:08 PM
Oh yeah, I almost forgot: cool video Todd!
There are a gazillion secret messages in the background (give or take a bajillion) and I found myself watching the video over and over to try to find them all... hey, was that your idea of a blipvert? Diabolical!
I'd have to agree that the video has more of a Matrix look to it than a Max Headroom look. It's your alter-ego's performance that conveys the Max Headroom quality IMHO.
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TheReelTodd Sector Admin
Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 7:58 PM
Thank you - ALL OF YOU for your kind words!
You all make the pain-in-the-butt it was to do that, well worth it!
I posted your comments on the video's page. If anyone has an issue with that, please PM me and I'll remove your name from the comments if you prefer.
redrain85 - thanks for pointing out the bad YouTube link. I fixed it. Was in a rush last night and didn't spot my links! Always seem to be in a rush lately. I'm so glad you enjoyed the way I presented the story!
Carl - YES INDEED! You need to get back to your modeling. I miss those threads loaded with all the beautiful TRON imagery you used treat us to. I was looking forward to some more animations and your new Reco. I know - you've got the same problem as I. All sorts of creative juice... and no time to work it. I do hope to see more of your stuff soon though. See what you can do - you know it will feel good! Oh, and yes, Easter eggs in there! Can you find them?
MutoidMan You cracked me up! I KNOW who's to blame. It's the same person who is ALWAYS to blame - ME. I have a pretty good marriage with my wife. It's no secret. It works like this - she tells me how things go, and I say "yes, dear". She tells me who's to blame (me), and I say "yes, dear". She tells me she's going shopping with my card, and I say "yes, dear". After all, I'm just the middle man between my paycheck and my wife. I'm an old marrieg guy - she's got me trained just like yours probably has you. And you know what? I wouldn't change it for the world! My wife is awesome - if not for anything else, at least for putting up with me! I thought this story would make some decent material for that Max Headroom-like video blogging experiment I've been wanting to try for a while now. Ok, it looks kind of Matrix-like with the color scheme and ASCII text - but does that add to it or detract from it? I don't mind it looking like The Matrix. I only mind if that takes away from what it is in the sense of it being entertaining and fun. Oh, and hidden messages in there? He he he. Not as many as I would have liked (did that part very quickly) but I got some fun ones in there! Did you catch the Spaceballs one? Hard to see any of them in their entrirety.
Sketch - Yeah - the mafia got my lawn... if only I had thought of telling that to the wife!
Man - y'all made me almost want to make another one. So many Max Headroom fans here - I can't believe we've never had a Max Headroom thread before... or have we? I can't remember. Is that on DVD yet? I REALLY want it! I've still got old VHS of most of the episode from when ther were originally aired, but the quality is not great (SLP mode and they're old). That show was awesome! LOVED the concept of it... and of course Max. He's just cool!
Another question for you all if you don't mind. If I were to change something about my 8-bit alter ego, what should it be in your opinion?
Color changes?
Background changes?
Other style changes?
Just curious.
I went with the green monochrome look because I wanted it to be Max Headroom looking but not a carbon copy. I also couldn't really re-create Max's look very well - I don't have that kind of make-up skills or 3D modeling skill. But I figured I could pull off an old-school 8-bit look - back when shading was very simple and... well, green. I know 8-bit computers were not capable of the 3D background or drawing an animated head in real time, but it wasn't meant to be true to known 8-bit technology.
My original idea was to do a Max Headroom like TRON head - kind of like my avatar. BUT I'd need a TRON helmet and upper body circuitry, which I don't have. I would have used primary colored grids in the background, similar to Max's original lines, but grids. But couldn't pull that off.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Monday, June, 12, 2006 9:16 PM
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MutoidMan User
Posts: 2,232 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Friday, June, 16, 2006 10:38 PM
TheReelTodd Wrote:MutoidMan You cracked me up! I KNOW who's to blame. It's the same person who is ALWAYS to blame - ME. I have a pretty good marriage with my wife. It's no secret. It works like this - she tells me how things go, and I say "yes, dear". She tells me who's to blame (me), and I say "yes, dear". She tells me she's going shopping with my card, and I say "yes, dear". After all, I'm just the middle man between my paycheck and my wife. I'm an old marrieg guy - she's got me trained just like yours probably has you. And you know what? I wouldn't change it for the world! My wife is awesome - if not for anything else, at least for putting up with me! I thought this story would make some decent material for that Max Headroom-like video blogging experiment I've been wanting to try for a while now. Ok, it looks kind of Matrix-like with the color scheme and ASCII text - but does that add to it or detract from it? I don't mind it looking like The Matrix. I only mind if that takes away from what it is in the sense of it being entertaining and fun. Oh, and hidden messages in there? He he he. Not as many as I would have liked (did that part very quickly) but I got some fun ones in there! Did you catch the Spaceballs one? Hard to see any of them in their entrirety. |
OF COURSE mine has me trained. What self-respecting wife wouldn't?
And no, I wouldn't have it any other way either. As I'm sure Martha would say, 'It's a good thing!'
The Matrix-ness of the look doesn't detract from the video; anybody familiar with Max Headroom will recognize the style instantly. Anybody not familiar with Max Headroom isn't cool enough to matter.
As to the Spaceballs quote: "Keep firing..." right?
TheReelTodd Wrote:Man - y'all made me almost want to make another one. So many Max Headroom fans here - I can't believe we've never had a Max Headroom thread before... or have we? I can't remember. Is that on DVD yet? I REALLY want it! I've still got old VHS of most of the episode from when ther were originally aired, but the quality is not great (SLP mode and they're old). That show was awesome! LOVED the concept of it... and of course Max. He's just cool!
Another question for you all if you don't mind. If I were to change something about my 8-bit alter ego, what should it be in your opinion?
Color changes?
Background changes?
Other style changes?
Just curious.
I went with the green monochrome look because I wanted it to be Max Headroom looking but not a carbon copy. I also couldn't really re-create Max's look very well - I don't have that kind of make-up skills or 3D modeling skill. But I figured I could pull off an old-school 8-bit look - back when shading was very simple and... well, green. I know 8-bit computers were not capable of the 3D background or drawing an animated head in real time, but it wasn't meant to be true to known 8-bit technology.
My original idea was to do a Max Headroom like TRON head - kind of like my avatar. BUT I'd need a TRON helmet and upper body circuitry, which I don't have. I would have used primary colored grids in the background, similar to Max's original lines, but grids. But couldn't pull that off.
I almost went with just green lines in the background, but changed it to ASCII text because I thought that looked more early 80's computer-like than the lines. Again, The Matrix look that resulted was unintended, but I'll take it if people dig it.
Ok - ideas and thoughts on the look and implementation of it anyway?
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Friday, June, 16, 2006 11:24 PM
So does that mean that you both are the guys that sits in the chairs or the bench in front of the stores there in the indoor shoping malls as well waiting for the wife while she is in the dress shopping when they look for something nice from time to time?? Scratching my head. Wonder if that myth is true I've always heard about it.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Saturday, June, 17, 2006 12:31 PM
I saw "I have learned that you..." something in the background.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Saturday, June, 17, 2006 1:50 PM
MutoidMan Wrote:...As to the Spaceballs quote: "Keep firing..." right? |
he he he - yep! That's the one.
Wow! Thanks for that link, MutoidMan! That's the first time I ever got to see actor Matt Frewer going through the stages of makeup application in to Max Headroom! I WISH I could pull that kind of stuff off, but I can't even come close. That's why I went for a more simple and 8-bit look. I think I said this before - but the makeup they used on him did indeed fool me when I first saw Max doing Coke commercials. It wasn't until months later I read an article (or maybe someone told me and then I read an article?) that explained the computer generated image of Max was really just a guy wearing special makeup appliances and a shiny suit to look that way. After that, I could tell it was not really computer generated, but it was still cool to me! Did it fool you at first too?
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TheReelTodd Sector Admin
Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Saturday, June, 17, 2006 2:00 PM
Compucore Wrote:So does that mean that you both are the guys that sits in the chairs or the bench in front of the stores there in the indoor shoping malls as well waiting for the wife while she is in the dress shopping when they look for something nice from time to time?? Scratching my head. Wonder if that myth is true I've always heard about it.
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It's no myth!
Hey, it's part of married life. All us married guys go through it. The wife drags us out shopping, we get to hold ALL the stuff for her that she picks out as she shops, and then we get to pay for it. As my wife puts it, that's our job.
I know, guys like us get picked on by single men (or "free" men) from time to time, but you see - there are awesome perks to being married (in a happy marriage). Not that you're picking on us, Compucore - I mean we get picked on in general (married guys that is).
My wife is an awesome cook... words cannot describe how awesome her cooking is. I can honestly say that her cooking is better than the best restaurants I've ever dined at, period. AND I get to eat like a king almost every day!
And another obvious thing. If I say that that I got it three times in the past week, do you know what I'm talking about? (NOT bragging, just stating ) Ok, I think you do - let's not go any further than that. But you see - a very obvious perk to being in a happy marriage. I only wonder if it will be four before today is through?
So guys like MutoidMan and myself - we know who the boss is. We know how to work "yes, dear" to the fullest. And we're both very happy with where we are.
If/when you tie the knot, Compucore, we'll welcome you to the club. We can all complain together about the same stuff we all hate as husbands, and all share stories about the perks as well.
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TheReelTodd Sector Admin
Posts: 0 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Saturday, June, 17, 2006 2:10 PM
FreedomForever Wrote:I saw "I have learned that you..." something in the background. |
Yeah - there are a few odd and meaningless phrases in there. There are also some accidental words that I didn't notice until I started animating the background. I did the background ASCII text rather quickly.
It is a mix of things like "QWERTY..." - the order in which the letters on the keyboard are from left to right. There are also random letters, which is kind of hard to do without getting repetitive accidentally, and there are some simple phrases and film references. My website URL is in there. I think the word "WHAT" and "PHAT" got in there accidentally. I noticed them between parenthesis after the fact. Odd, but they were unintentional. "PHAT" isn't really even a word anymore, is it? Do people even still use that?
I used a little bit of leet, or 1337, but not much. I really hate leet-speak, but I didn't want to be too obvious with some of the words.
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MutoidMan User
Posts: 2,232 | Re: Who is to blame? YOU decide! on Saturday, June, 17, 2006 10:33 PM
TheReelTodd Wrote:Compucore Wrote:So does that mean that you both are the guys that sits in the chairs or the bench in front of the stores there in the indoor shoping malls as well waiting for the wife while she is in the dress shopping when they look for something nice from time to time?? Scratching my head. Wonder if that myth is true I've always heard about it.
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It's no myth!
Hey, it's part of married life. All us married guys go through it. The wife drags us out shopping, we get to hold ALL the stuff for her that she picks out as she shops, and then we get to pay for it. As my wife puts it, that's our job.
I know, guys like us get picked on by single men (or "free" men) from time to time, but you see - there are awesome perks to being married (in a happy marriage). Not that you're picking on us, Compucore - I mean we get picked on in general (married guys that is).
My wife is an awesome cook... words cannot describe how awesome her cooking is. I can honestly say that her cooking is better than the best restaurants I've ever dined at, period. AND I get to eat like a king almost every day!
And another obvious thing. If I say that that I got it three times in the past week, do you know what I'm talking about? (NOT bragging, just stating ) Ok, I think you do - let's not go any further than that. But you see - a very obvious perk to being in a happy marriage. I only wonder if it will be four before today is through?
So guys like MutoidMan and myself - we know who the boss is. We know how to work "yes, dear" to the fullest. And we're both very happy with where we are.
If/when you tie the knot, Compucore, we'll welcome you to the club. We can all complain together about the same stuff we all hate as husbands, and all share stories about the perks as well.
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