Wow! What an awesome Tron comic!! I bought four copies today I just got done reading it here, and I was really impressed. I've been avoiding these comic threads until I had a chance to pick my copy up. I liked how from the moment you open the cover, you are thrust into the Tron world. Even the comicbook credits are done like on a computer screen. And computer terminology is used for those credits (e.g., "Pixels," "Data Entry")... you know what I mean *That* type of creativity and open-mindedness is something I truly appreciate. If someone who didn't respect, appreciate or understand Tron as much as you had worked on this, then there would probably be a generic credits page totally unrelated to Tron there; there would be distractions and artwork totally unrelated to Tron on the front/back cover, or within, to take your mind out of the Tron universe; Etc. I'm thankful you guys got to do this comic.

Enter the world of Tron, and enter the world I did. The dark, gripping story, action and artwork are just what I needed No happy Pokemon characters in Tron suits jumping out at me with glee. Thank goodness! No Mickey Mouse and Goofy characters dressed up in Tron suits. Yesss! This is straight up seriousness, and I like it. To LurkingHorror and crew: well done!

I like how you portrayed the little computer screens spitting out data and information on the screens, like in the movie. Made you feel like you're watching the screens real-time. I see some nice character building going on and just enough backstory to set the scenes nicely, too. Dang, I just flipped through the pages here again, and I really like the mood it gives off... and then the last page! Holy cow, how moving is that?!!? That was a perfect cliffhanger, imo. I totally wasn't expecting it and it really makes my brain spin in circles wondering what issue #2 has in store for us. (Don't tell us anything.) Simple, yet powerful words there, lurkinghorror. And an image that is just as powerful by Louie.

I've only read through it once, and need to read it again to fully absorb. I like how we're not spoon-fed all the information and that certain things require some thought. And that what we *think* may not actually be correct. That's awesome. Yes, the story and text modestly reveals just enough without stating too much or without spelling things out for us so much that we don't think for ourselves; and I appreciate that. (LOL, that was a long sentence... did it make sense?) Lots of times movies and comics find it necessary to state the obvious on everything and make you feel like your 6 years old by not being subtle about it. Not the case with this comic.

It's some sophisticated work here, and I like it. Good job!! Best of luck in future issues...

-Traahn

Traahn Wrote:Even the comicbook credits are done like on a computer screen.

I have to give props here to Scott Saavedra. He does alot of the graphic design at SLG (along with his own comic titled: Dr Radium), and he did the interior design on this book. Also equal props to SLG president, Dan Vado. He oversaw all these aspects of production that the rest of us were to busy for. I didn't even know about the way the credits would read (computer style) until I opened the book myself, and I was very pleased.

We're shooting for the keeping you guessing style of storytelling. Either that or we have no idea where we are going with this. A little from each column is most likely.

If anyone here ever watched old serials, that's sort of the vibe we want to evoke. Cliffhangers.

Excellent. Dan Vado... a.k.a. "Master Control Program"

Well it was kind of reminded of what is happening here with the spoiler and all that. And figured to put it in here for Tron sake. Hmmm maybe you guys can put that in who knows. It would be an inside joke of some sort. Anyways it felt that someone should have put it in here at least to get a laugh.

Yeah I believe you on that one. I remember seeing batman as well too when I was yonger. So I can relate to what your saying. I haven't met him myself personally. But I did meet up with Spocks father at a convention one time. Nearly lost my hearing and had my left part of my shirt ripped right off. Like what had happened to Ross from Nightcourt. When whats her name was having a baby. From a girl that I was talking with and roaming the convention halls there at the time. One thing I find that some of the celebrities are really nice to chat up with. And have a a few laughs as well.

lurkinghorror Wrote:Compucore: It's funny you put it like that. Eric (the cowriter on Tron) and I created two different comics that run in Disney Adventures Magazine. One is called "Little Gloomy" and the other is called "Kid Gravity". Each story of either series starts off with a splash page and the same type of "voiceover". It always goes something like this: What's this?! Kid Gravity trapped in the depths of space?! What devilish and diabolical villain could devise such a dastardly death trap?! Read on gentle readers, the answers may shock and surprise you! Can you tell I grew up watching live action Batman episodes? I even met Burt Ward when I was 5!

Every real world character passed away and became Ghosts in the machine. You didn't get that? Look at the comic again with a pair of 3-D glasses. There are things hidden in the background that bring this to light!! KIDDING!!! Just kidding! Before someone actually buys the comic on this FALSE pretense of a "3-D glasses" functionality... I'm kidding! A joke... hehe.. ha ... okay, you get the idea. Not for real's... trust me.

Kidding...

... Seriously.

But get the comic anyways because it's cool. You don't need it to have 3-D glasses scenes anywas. Although that might be kinda cool; and I seem to remember lurkinghorror pondering 3-D glasses scenes at some point. Hmmm... Or maybe that was someone else. Or maybe I just made it up. Oh well... my memory's not like it was in the '80s, apparently on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill onlineabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

Meatsack:

Canon of Fan fiction? Hmm... The distinction is less absolute than most might think.

Well... I'll put it this way. If you have an idea for a Tron story, and you have the money and resources to produce it, does that make it official? What separates fan fiction from official canon? Is a Batman movie part of the official Batman universe? When Alan Dean Foster wrote his first Star Wars novels, were they official? They were legally licensed and approved, but the material in question contradicts everything that came in afterwards in Empire. One of the best Star Trek books I read was completely in opposition with Star Trek 8, which came out a few years after said novel.

The reality is that the comic is just as official as the video game. Equal, in my mind. But neither is such with the film. The film is the source. And if Disney decides to come out with another Tron movie/tv show/video game/comic book, I highly doubt they will be concerned with being faithful to what has gone before. If (for example) Dark Horse comics obtains the rights to Tron after SLG, I doubt they will concern themselves at all with what we have done with the property. In fact, I doubt that whoever gets the license after us will bother with the continuity from the game either. When we first purchased the rights, Disney considered that a concern. I don't think this is the case anymore.

The only way to determine if something is official is to decide for yourself. In regards to my Batman example, I've been putting together what I feel is the definitive Batman canon. A collection of comics that I feel tell his story from beginning to end. The comics that don't fit... They are not part of what I consider canon.

What separates my work from anyone else's is money and connections. I won't argue to anyone that this makes it more substantial then there own vision. We all have our own perceptions of what should and should not be part of the Tron universe. Some of you will probably hate the end result of the comic, some of you will love it. But nothing that we do with the comic, for good or bad, take away from the movie or game that we all love. I'm just happy that we have an opportunity to help keep Tron in the public eye, and share our own ideas with the public.

We do have a complete storyline for the comic. If it continues past our initial story will depend upon sales and license rights. We're currently planning between 5 to 6 issues. It depends on how many issues we need to tell the story. In fact, I just cut an issues worth of material as I realized it dragged the story down. I try to adhere to the "less is more" school of thought.order abortion pill morning after pill price where to buy abortion pill

lurkinghorror Wrote:And if Disney decides to come out with another Tron movie/tv show/video game/comic book, I highly doubt they will be concerned with being faithful to what has gone before. If (for example) Dark Horse comics obtains the rights to Tron after SLG, I doubt they will concern themselves at all with what we have done with the property. In fact, I doubt that whoever gets the license after us will bother with the continuity from the game either. When we first purchased the rights, Disney considered that a concern. I don't think this is the case anymore.

Disney had better be concerned!

We got the first inklings of this in Xbox Killer App, and I really hope their "anything to make a buck" attitude doesn't prevail.

That's why I'm so glad that you and the people at SLG are doing this, because you actually care about what came before! I have no problem with you taking the story in new and unexpected directions, but not at the cost of totally disregarding what came before. The movie and the game are established stories. Why throw them away? What is it with the modern day perception that everything is a disposable commodity, to simply be thrown away and to start anew? Do they really think it will always generate more revenue?

Why piss off the existing fan base, in the attempt to gain new fans? Logically, you already have an existing fan base that are guaranteed revenue. It's a lot easier to hold on to those people, than get new ones. Not to mention those annoyed fans will tell everyone else how much they despise the changes. Bad word-of-mouth could damage their reputation, irrevocably.

Sometimes I think the people in marketing circles lack a brain. Seriously.

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redrain85 Wrote: lurkinghorror Wrote:And if Disney decides to come out with another Tron movie/tv show/video game/comic book, I highly doubt they will be concerned with being faithful to what has gone before. If (for example) Dark Horse comics obtains the rights to Tron after SLG, I doubt they will concern themselves at all with what we have done with the property. In fact, I doubt that whoever gets the license after us will bother with the continuity from the game either. When we first purchased the rights, Disney considered that a concern. I don't think this is the case anymore. Disney had better be concerned! We got the first inklings of this in Xbox Killer App, and I really hope their "anything to make a buck" attitude doesn't prevail. That's why I'm so glad that you and the people at SLG are doing this, because you actually care about what came before! I have no problem with you taking the story in new and unexpected directions, but not at the cost of totally disregarding what came before. The movie and the game are established stories. Why throw them away? What is it with the modern day perception that everything is a disposable commodity, to simply be thrown away and to start anew? Do they really think it will always generate more revenue? Why piss off the existing fan base, in the attempt to gain new fans? Logically, you already have an existing fan base that are guaranteed revenue. It's a lot easier to hold on to those people, than get new ones. Not to mention those annoyed fans will tell everyone else how much they despise the changes. Sometimes I think the people in marketing circles lack a brain. Seriously.

I have to confess, I'm not really bothered by remakes or instances of ignored canon, as long as it is well done. For example, I like the new Batman film much better than most of the one's from the late eighties/nineties. Equally I love the 60's TV show. And the cartoons. Every different one of them, including the new one. Revisionist creativity is not automatically bad. It's just bad when it's handled poorly. As is any creative venture. As are MOST creative ventures.
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lurkinghorror Wrote: *that long post in response to mine*

Thanks for your thoughts on that.
They make perfect sense.
I'll define TRON for myself, then.

*ahem*
Movie, game, and your comic.
Kindom Hearts II references is right out! (Of course! )

Anyhoo... you are doing a great job with the comic.
It's dark and beautiful.
You can count on my revenue!

redrain85 Wrote: PrinceAuron Wrote:Why did Alan say Lora while looking at the computer? Is it true that during the laser accident, she was digitized into the computer system? Is she somehow still ALIVE? I'm wondering the same thing. I take it that Jet met Lora at the end. But I thought Ma3a was essentially supposed to be Lora. Or, at least, partially Lora. The e-mail about Lora's death said she was "partially" digitized if I remember right. So if that's Lora, I'm going to be really interested in reading a good explanation for that.

Personally, after having played the game, I assumed Ma3a was the personification of Lora.
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