Wow. I thought there was the potential for Disney and Pixar to mend their differences . . . but this?!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/19/AR2006011902681.html

Maybe Disney finally got a clue, and realized how important Pixar is to them?

This also would mean that Apple and iTunes will become an important factor in whatever Disney does from now on, since Steve Jobs runs both Pixar and Apple.

Maybe now Disney will be more willing to do a Tron re-make or sequel?

Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:...I just hope his eyes don't turn towards Tron... because I don't think a Pixar-zed Tron would really encompass the original spirit of the film.

I second that!

Pixar could do some cool things for a TRON sequel... but I don't want to see, as you called it, a Pixar-zed TRON.

TRON as we know it will then truly die and give way for toon-TRON. Or some kind of not-TRON, but TRON-ish film that will no doubt have me puking all the way to the toilet and beyond.

Yes, a very loose quote from Toy Story. That was a great film. But that kind of animation and storytelling does not suit TRON at all.

I'm sure disney needs to be bailed out with a new partner, so I dont see any harm, if it makes the quality in disney improve. rofl.

The Tron2 should be real life characters, perhaps pixar can digitize the computer guts, but I hope they can make a movie that isn't a freaking cartoon. I suppose if pixar were serious about a real life movie, we may have noticed, but I really dont like the look of thier characters, ect, even though they're nice looking. The look of a living machine would rival a matrix if they had thier minds made up.

Interesting news nonetheless, Thanks redrain85!

Wow, I did hear someone mention those facts a while back, that's awesome that Steve Jobs in a Tron fan!

What I heard, a while back, about Disney is that they ticked off their 2D animators... If I remember correctly, they got rid of a large portion of their 2D staff.

This was news I read from Don Bluth's website a long time ago. He was rather upset because it seems that Disney might be getting rid of their 2D studios for good and going strickly 3D.

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Sketch Wrote: Amazed how anti-Pixar this thread has become.

Not at all. I am a huge Pixar fan. I pretty much own everything that they have put out. But what you're not hearing is that even though you can fully digitize and make characters appear lifelike, there is still a very "animated" quality to them.

They don't move like humans, there is an exaggeration to their movement and expressions that fits in well with things like The Incredibles or Finding Nemo, but does not work well with (IMHO) Tron.

Tron's magic was not only in the computer animation but the feeling you got that you were in an alien vast landscape. Not to say that Pixar couldn't pull off some amazing backgrounds and whatnot, but if the people populated in a Pixar Tron universe were completely animated that turns the direction and feeling of the universe in a whole different direction.

Know what I am getting at?

I think I see what you're getting at, Boingo. As I've said before, I want the sequel to remain a combination of live action and CGI like the original. I think most would agree with that sentiment.

There should be actors actually playing the programs in the electronic world, with CGI effects added in. Not that the entire movie is CGI.

Excellent points brought up by all.

I just re-read my post about Pixar. I guess my comment "but I don't want to see, as you called it, a Pixar-zed TRON" might be seen as anti-Pixar.

I'm really not anti Pixar though, and I didn't meant to come off that way.

I remember Pixar's trademark animated lamp playing on the inflated ball animation... I remember it when it was an amazing short I saw on cable LONG before it became kind of like their logo. They were doing some amazing things. I didn't know they worked on ST II - but I do recall that animated sequence of the Genesis project. That was absolutely amazing back then - still looks cool today!

Again, I think Pixar could do some great things for a TRON sequel, BUT I'd hate to see TRON being toon-ized, as in the kind of animation that Pixar has been known for in recent years. If Pixar and Disney were to merge, I'm sure any new TRON would indeed be dumbed down for 4 year olds and toon-ized to a heavy degree.

I also agree that any TRON sequel should feature live actors as the program characters in the digial world. The thought of fully computer animated characters being the programs of a new TRON film does nothing for me. Conceptually, it could be cool for something that is NOT TRON, but I'd really hate to see TRON like that. It's not TRON.

And Boingo_Buzzard hit the nail on the head with the computer animation character thing. I have yet to see a film where a fully computer animated character actually looked, or more accurately put, moved realistically to me. Photographically, as a still frame, they do very well. In motion however, they don't look like they have weight to them and they seem to have their own very odd center of gravity that defies the gravity I know and live in. Now TRON programs are not supposed to appear as photo-realistic characters, but they should appear as style of character that were established in the original film. Fully computer animated characters in the digital world of TRON would not look right. Perhaps for some characters, but not for the general programs. Other types of characters may look just fine 100% CG - I mean just look at how cool Bit was. But that is a completely different character all together and his look, shape, and non-humanness was very fitting to his role.

Sketch Wrote:I think if they got Steven Lisberger and John Lasseter together we would see great things on the neonic glow of that Tron horizion.

I agree fully with that! But, I doubt it will come to be. But if it were, that would indeed be a very good recipe for a worthy TRON sequel!

TheReelTodd Wrote:Excellent points brought up by all. I just re-read my post about Pixar. I guess my comment "but I don't want to see, as you called it, a Pixar-zed TRON" might be seen as anti-Pixar. I'm really not anti Pixar though, and I didn't meant to come off that way. I remember Pixar's trademark animated lamp playing on the inflated ball animation... I remember it when it was an amazing short I saw on cable LONG before it became kind of like their logo. They were doing some amazing things. I didn't know they worked on ST II - but I do recall that animated sequence of the Genesis project. That was absolutely amazing back then - still looks cool today! Again, I think Pixar could do some great things for a TRON sequel, BUT I'd hate to see TRON being toon-ized, as in the kind of animation that Pixar has been known for in recent years. If Pixar and Disney were to merge, I'm sure any new TRON would indeed be dumbed down for 4 year olds and toon-ized to a heavy degree. I also agree that any TRON sequel should feature live actors as the program characters in the digial world. The thought of fully computer animated characters being the programs of a new TRON film does nothing for me. Conceptually, it could be cool for something that is NOT TRON, but I'd really hate to see TRON like that. It's not TRON. And Boingo_Buzzard hit the nail on the head with the computer animation character thing. I have yet to see a film where a fully computer animated character actually looked, or more accurately put, moved realistically to me. Photographically, as a still frame, they do very well. In motion however, they don't look like they have weight to them and they seem to have their own very odd center of gravity that defies the gravity I know and live in. Now TRON programs are not supposed to appear as photo-realistic characters, but they should appear as style of character that were established in the original film. Fully computer animated characters in the digital world of TRON would not look right. Perhaps for some characters, but not for the general programs. Other types of characters may look just fine 100% CG - I mean just look at how cool Bit was. But that is a completely different character all together and his look, shape, and non-humanness was very fitting to his role. Sketch Wrote:I think if they got Steven Lisberger and John Lasseter together we would see great things on the neonic glow of that Tron horizion. I agree fully with that! But, I doubt it will come to be. But if it were, that would indeed be a very good recipe for a worthy TRON sequel!

Yeah, again, I'm not saying Toon-ize Tron at all, no. I'm just talking about how Pixar is able to animate a cgi character to act and interact. If there was an all cgi version of Tron done with realistic cgi, I would want to see what Pixar could possibly do based on what they have shown they can animate a character to the point is feels real, not cgi, but real enough you forget your watching a cgi character and connect with them in a sense. That is all I mean by that and nothing more. I want to see a Tron sequal as well as everyone else that uses live action actors put into a cgi world. Sky Captian and the World of Tomorrow proved today's technology is more than capable of doing it, and that was done by a small studio, which means smaller studios now have the ability to roll out a product to match that of the big studios via the technology used in Sky Captian. It's amazing how much the computer allowed them to plan out whole scenes and have them ready before the actors even came to act based on how far they would need to walk on a set. If a studio did Tron, I would want a studio that understands not just the artistic element of design seen in Tron and give us a beautiful world as the Lisberger and his artists did with the original, but also an understandabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion