TheReelTodd Wrote: I remember kids playing that on the Apple ][ computers in the media center at school. I thought it looked cool, but the 1 frame per second frame rate was awful.

One frame per second, yes. Awful... no.. and I will explain that in a second (one frame)...

The really, really low frame rate and the fact that it was actually a flight simulator complexity (as in you pretty much really have to learn how to fly), I never really took much of an interest in it.

Ahhhhh.. yes. This is the thing. You of all people should know.. back in the day IMAGINATION played a big part in games. Sure the frame rate sucked. Sure the sound and graphics and complexity all sucked, but it was how we imagined it was important. For me an Traahn it was if we were flying.. for you it was horsesh**. Now, not to say that's bad... but you get my drift? Back then the imagination factor was a BIG part of game development.


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Traahn Wrote:I'm calling you out on this one, TheReelTodd I think it was probably just the 'flight simulator complexity' part you didn't like Look at the framerate of Rescue on Fractalus. 1 frame per second, yet you got hours of enjoyment out of that!

You are right, in part. It was the complexity of it that kind of turned me off, but the 1-frame per second (if it was even that high) was awful. My first thought when seeing a kid play it in the media center was "cool - perspective graphics!" followed by a "... but it really doesn't give much of a sensation of flying, does it"

Rescue on Fractalus actually plays at a much higher frame rate - I'd say about 5 or 6 frames a second. That's a big difference, though still low. It at least gives the appearance of motion, as opposed to a slide-show of what is going on. And if course, it didn't require so much learning.

I really don't care for such low frame-rate "animation". Take my communicator - it has the ability to capture "video". Note the quotes around "video". The reality is that "video" on my communicator really just means is a low resolution, slide-show of about 12 seconds. It takes about a frame a second and does not look like video at all. I never use the feature - it's NOT "video" at all.

Anyway - I never owned Flight Simulator, nor did I ever have the opportunity to play it. I remember being curious about it (regardless of the frame rate) but there seemed to be a lot of learning involved, and I would have rather (back then) just been able to grab the joystick and fly around, not having to bother with all the gauges and stuff.

Okay, okay... I trust you being turned off by the low framerate of Flight Sim. For me, though -- on my IBM PC Jr -- I don't think it was that bad. I think it was like Rescue on Fractalus, or maybe even a tad better, from what I remember. But oh well... It's not like I have any way of testing this now, since I've not had that computer for ... well, a long time!

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MutoidMan Wrote:I found the name: IFR Flight Simulator Unfortunately, I haven't found a screenshot yet.

Is this it?


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MutoidMan Wrote:Hey, I think that's it. Thanks for finding that Todd!

You're welcome.

MutoidMan Wrote:For a minute there I didn't recognize it because my friend had his VIC-20 connected to a little black & white television; it was probably a 13" model. So that's what IFR Flight Simulator looks like in color!

I don't think you were missing much in b&w.

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I remember havine my Apple ][E clone over here. with 128K of ram. I had also a black and white monitor for it. Actually I think mine was either a green or Amber monitor. And it used RCA plugs for it to hook up to the monitor. Did anyone who had a Apple Did your come with plugs in the back for casette as well. Like to save onto the audio tapes that you could play on your stereo?

TheReelTodd Wrote: MutoidMan Wrote:Hey, I think that's it. Thanks for finding that Todd! You're welcome. MutoidMan Wrote:For a minute there I didn't recognize it because my friend had his VIC-20 connected to a little black & white television; it was probably a 13" model. So that's what IFR Flight Simulator looks like in color! I don't think you were missing much in b&w. I remember some people having their home computers hooked up to small b&w TV's back in the day. When I first got my Apple //c, all I could afford was the green, monochrome monitor with it. I couldn't wait to get a color monitor. It took about 4 more yeas for that to arrive. My C64 was always hooked up to a color TV though... no, wait. I think it was hooked up to a small b&w TV for a time now that I think back. It depended on where it was - computer stand was a small b&w TV, and when it was on a TV tray in front of the living room TV, then it was on the color TV. Yeah - I used to sit and enjoy my C64 on a TV tray in front of the TV. Sounds so funny today!