sherm4040 User
Posts: 0 | Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 12, 2005 4:33 PM
Is there any backstory or any information about programs being able to come into the human world? Would it be possible in the TRON world?
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Posts: 1,064 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 12, 2005 5:01 PM
Like ai??? robots can be thought of as very complex programs and problem solving databases. i think its possible. But in tron the ai is really advanced, i mean tron and yori are in love, i don't think thats possible, could be cute though, robot love story.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 12, 2005 7:52 PM
Ma3a said that things from the digital world would perish upon entering our "analog environment".
That may only have applied to the Fcon team, or that may apply to programs as well.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 12, 2005 9:15 PM
This topic has been discussed in great detail before... I forget the thread, but it was very interesting to read what everyone came up with.
My personal take on it is that programs cannot enter the real world because they were never real to begin with. The people we see inside the computers are the personification of programs, and not people at all. I've always kind of thought that they only appear to be people to a digitized because that is how the human perspective on it is translated. To programs, a digitized user may appear to be just a program - the human form not even being part of the picture. So there is really no way a program could be constructed in to a human, in the reverse of what happened to Flynn in the film.
Of course, there are so many directions one can go when pondering this subject. I was amazed with what people came up with in the other thread. VERY interesting stuff!
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sherm4040 User
Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 12, 2005 10:02 PM
Tabulator Wrote:Ma3a said that things from the digital world would perish upon entering our "analog environment".
That may only have applied to the Fcon team, or that may apply to programs as well. |
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Monday, November, 14, 2005 10:29 AM
I think they can come to the real world and materialize there. My theory is a bit of a stretch but I'll go with it anyways. The only way they could materialize in the real world is if they had what I call "A source." So it could be something that generates enough electrical energy to keep them stable in the real world. It could very well be that the energy/electrical radiation (However subtle) flowing behind the walls in enough quantities can keep them up for a while.... like projecting light to a wall. Essentially, they'd be an interactive hollowgram. However, if they enter a "dry" enviroment (EI: An enviroment where no "sources" are present) they would cease to exsist in this world.
Like I said, a stretch but possible. ^^;;
The other option was to "build a body" for the program to inhabit for a while in the real world. Potentially an android type of thing that they can manuver in. So they could "posses" the body if you get my drift.
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Program Digitizing on Monday, November, 14, 2005 10:49 AM
Look to the story of Icarus.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Monday, November, 14, 2005 11:25 AM
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Posts: 359 | Re: Program Digitizing on Monday, November, 14, 2005 11:29 AM
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Thursday, November, 17, 2005 8:20 PM
I figure you could dedigitize a program if you had correction algorithms and a whole heap of useless matter in the beam that your laser could construct a body out of. You'd need an upgrade to the algorithms probably...
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Thursday, November, 17, 2005 11:53 PM
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Friday, November, 18, 2005 5:10 PM
I don't think it would be possible to "de digitze" a program into the real world. As I understand it, the digitizing procces scans and breaks down the molecular stucture of the object to be digitized using lasers and stores the information regaring each molecule's position in the form of programming code. Programs have no such code in them, therefore they could not form a body to exist in this world.
That does not mean that a program could not experience this "analog" world of ours, it simply means that they would need some sort of artificail body to contain them and supply them with the resources they need to continue existing. Those resources such as electrical enrgy and proccessor time are as vital to their existence as food, water and oxygen are to ourswhere to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online
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DaveTRON User
Posts: 5,314 | Re: Program Digitizing on Friday, November, 18, 2005 10:55 PM
But could a program ride out of the system on someone else's data? human goes in, program comes out?
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Posts: 359 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 19, 2005 1:31 AM
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Posts: 2,691 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 19, 2005 2:57 AM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:
Automan could exist in our world |
Point taken..
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 19, 2005 8:46 AM
Nikster Wrote:Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:Automan could exist in our world |
Point taken..
Tho in order to exist, he sucked up a LOT of energy...having multiple programs exist in our world could cause a power outage or something. |
Automan was a holographic representation, if memory serves. He was meant to exist like that by design of his programmer. He wasn't an un-digitized program or anything, just a holographic program with a lot of cool tricks.
And every morning, when people were waking up and making their coffee and starting up their morning TV viewing, Automan would start to feel the drain on the energy grid and would no longer be able to hold his holographic form.
Jeez, is that on DVD? I HAVE to buy that!
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 19, 2005 12:04 PM
TheReelTodd Wrote:
Automan was a holographic representation, if memory serves. He was meant to exist like that by design of his programmer. He wasn't an un-digitized program or anything, just a holographic program with a lot of cool tricks. |
Some of Automan's things could actually interact physically with this world. Like his car, and copter and whatever. How could a hologram, which is pure light, actually affect the laws of physics?
Also, the series is on DVD bootlegged from some cable channel (Bravo I think). Don't pay more than like $5 for it (which is what I paid for it). Also, if you're interested I could copy what I have for you. It's the entire series.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Saturday, November, 19, 2005 6:46 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:Some of Automan's things could actually interact physically with this world. Like his car, and copter and whatever. How could a hologram, which is pure light, actually affect the laws of physics? |
Yeah - Automan (and his vehicles) could interact with physical objects. I always just thought of that as part of the rules of the show, if you will (or pseudo-physics of the show). They probably explained some of that stuff in the first episode, or at least explained what Automan really is in terms of how he existed outside the computer and all. But you are right, in real life, a hologram has no physical ability to move anything - it has the tangibility of light.
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:Also, the series is on DVD bootlegged from some cable channel (Bravo I think). Don't pay more than like $5 for it (which is what I paid for it). Also, if you're interested I could copy what I have for you. It's the entire series. |
Thanks - I appreciate the offer, but I think I'll wait a bit longer and see if it materializes. I'd like to see Automan in glorious (and hopefully clean as the day it was originally on TV) professional DVD quality.
I keep waiting for that and Max Headroom on DVD. Just the other day I looked up Max Headroom on DVD - STILL nothing! It looks like these 1-season or less sci-fi shows aren't worth the cost to put on DVD by the companies that hold the rights to them.
Isn't it funny how most of us here at TRON-Sector have a love for the same sci-fi shows that never did well in original TV ratings? If only WE had those damn Nielsen boxes on OUR TVs - we could have saved so many great TV shows from cancellation!
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Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Monday, November, 21, 2005 1:54 PM
FreedomForever Wrote:I figure you could dedigitize a program if you had correction algorithms and a whole heap of useless matter in the beam that your laser could construct a body out of. You'd need an upgrade to the algorithms probably... |
It occurs to me..would the molecular structure degrade?
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Kamui User
Posts: 0 | Re: Program Digitizing on Monday, November, 21, 2005 6:13 PM
TheReelTodd Wrote:Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:Some of Automan's things could actually interact physically with this world. Like his car, and copter and whatever. How could a hologram, which is pure light, actually affect the laws of physics? |
Yeah - Automan (and his vehicles) could interact with physical objects. I always just thought of that as part of the rules of the show, if you will (or pseudo-physics of the show). They probably explained some of that stuff in the first episode, or at least explained what Automan really is in terms of how he existed outside the computer and all. But you are right, in real life, a hologram has no physical ability to move anything - it has the tangibility of light.
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*Cough* Yeah. Have you forgotten about the light-powered craft? In theory, Automan could interact with the world, but he'd have to be part laser to do it. However, I'd have to wonder what would the consiquences be if somone comes in contact with an "Automan Laser?"
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