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Jack Thompson to lose licence?

on Tuesday, November, 08, 2005 8:02 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=12774
Jack Thompson fights to get his day in court
Ellie Gibson 11:05 07/11/2005
Lawyer accused of violating legal ethics and turning courtroom "into a circus"

Anti-videogame campaigner Jack Thompson has appeared in court to defend his right to practice law in Alabama, following accusations that he violated legal ethics ahead of a civil case against companies involved in creating and selling Grand Theft Auto.

Thompson is representing the families of two police officers and a dispatcher who were murdered by 18 year old Devin Moore in June 2003. In a lawsuit filed against Sony, Take-Two, Rockstar, Wal-Mart and GameStop, Thompson claims that Grand Theft Auto trained Moore to become a killer.

But now law firm Blank Rome has filed a motion to have Thompson taken off the case and to have his legal license revoked. The firm alleges that Thompson has attacked and threatened their lawyers in dozens of press releases which also accused Blank Rome of conspiracy.

"He can't proceed with the civility the rules require. All lawyers have to conduct themselves with honesty, integrity and civility. This isn't a street fight," said Blank Rome's Jim Smith.

"He's going to turn the courtroom into a circus and we can't have it."

In response, Thompson accused the law firm of attempting to run a smear campaign against him, telling Judge James Moore: "I didn't start this food fight. They started it and I have a right to respond because, believe it or not, I have a life outside of this case."

When Judge Moore asked Thompson to justify some of the statements made in his press releases, he replied: "I'm not pretending I'm not a nice guy. I'm not pretending I don't have a temper."

"Why did you do this?" Moore asked Thompson, pointing to a huge stack of press releases and letters submitted by Blank Rome as evidence of Thompson's legal violations.

"You said after the criminal trial to 'have at it'," Thompson said. The judge had imposed a gag order on lawyers until Devin Moore's trial was over.

"Your 'have at it' and my 'have at it' are not the same," the judge replied.

Judge Moore has taken the motion to revoke Thompson's license under advisement, and is also considering a motion to have the entire suit dismissed on the grounds that the First Amendment, which provides for freedom of speech, applies to videogames. The defendants' laywers also claim that Devin Moore's actions could not have been foreseen.
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Re: Jack Thompson to lose licence?

on Tuesday, November, 08, 2005 9:49 PM


Good, I hope he loses his license.

I'm not saying that maybe he doesn't make some good points, but he's going about it the wrong way. Like when he offered to pay $10,000 to charity if someone would make a game where you could attack and kill video game industry people. Which was a twisted idea to begin with . . . but then later he withdrew his offer to charity, which really lowered him to the level of scum in my eyes.



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on Tuesday, November, 08, 2005 10:12 PM
Then Penny Arcade pretty much kicked JT's arse on that front by actually getting the 10k donated in his stead.

JT is the reason why there's lawyer jokes. =/ He's really a crappy lawyer if all he can do is complain about video games and have no evidence to back up his point.

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on Tuesday, November, 08, 2005 10:15 PM
Not knowing this mans condition, I would like to say, that there is a problem making law in this country, and using the courts to lash out, to make a political ideology of the law is the norm, and to use the court to practice how to make law and govern the public is in chaos.

So, to make it short, I think the most uniform method to practice law in this country is to "leave it". People want to respect personal values, and make any protective measures to inact them, and it cant work unless there is three or four segregated colonies governing the united states, but, the laws of man are in crisis, and the cut throat monopolies will kill anyone.

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on Tuesday, November, 08, 2005 11:14 PM
KiaPurity Wrote:He's really a crappy lawyer if all he can do is complain about video games and have no evidence to back up his point.

He doesn't care about the law or the people he's representing. He cares about $$$, as well as his clients. Everyone's a victim of something as long as it pays cash money.





 
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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 12:04 PM
i've been reading articles in past isues of PC Gamer, and dotted around the internet about all the ruckus that Grand theft Auto has caused in America. what with the issue of the "Hot coffee" mod, and now this. I'm also suprised by how the Hot coffee controversy just flew over the UK with litte effect.

the way our rating sees it is that [quoting from PC Gamer UK December 2005 issue] "since the code of the game needs to be altered in order to make the extra game available, it's not part of the main game, and therefore isn't under our jurisdiction" from what i've heard, some shops have stopped selling the game because it has been reclassified. this is just a load of BS. the mod itself to put the stuff back in is optional. you don't have to install it if you don't want to.

and now, we have Jack Thompson. who seems to have decided that the GTA games turned someone into a killer.

this, i think, is also BS.

i have played many violent games. GTA:VC and GTA:SA are part of my collection. heck, even the original Doom game was said to play a role in the columbine killings. I play these games, but i'm a pacifist. If people are so f**ked up enough to get games purely for the violence, which leads to real life killings, then they shouldn't be allowed to own games.

Games are [almost] an art form that allows players to be immersed in a world different from our own. the players are like a portal between the real world and game worlds, and if one of those players is weak minded, then the game world [in this case, the violence] if unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

and as for Jack Thompson. well, he just seems to be a real wet soul. blaming games for a murder without any hard evidence.

i'm not 100% savvy with that has gone on with him, but from what i've gathered over the past few weeks of reading news updades, he's just in it for the money, and has no idea what he's dealing with.

i'm glad he's losing his license, from what i've heard, he deserves it.

[sorry, i went a little off topic, but i wanted to say my bit about all this kerfuffle]

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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 1:50 PM


We've gotten into this before so I won't resurrect my stance on the take on video game violence..... But I will say this again....

Every generation has this issue come up. From Rock-N-Roll corrupting youths... to violence in movies and TV.

Trust me, when something new comes along that people can blame things on and make a few bucks at it then focus will turn to that and video games will be forgotten.

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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 3:41 PM
I work in video games and I am a dad, so I see both sides.

While I would never want to abrogate anyones freedom of speech, I have to wonder why the things that people want are the most violent?

Why is it cool to play a game where you steal, and fight and kill? Why is it cool to put down (or do worse to) police officers? Why is Fifty Cent a hero to so many when he puts out a crappy movie portraying himself as a glamorous gangster?

I don't blame video games or movies or music for this, I blame poor values in our society. This is taught by our parents to us, and we pass it along to our kids. It spreads by contact with friends who have similar value problems.

I am a big supporter of the police. I think they do a tough job, and I am shocked by the attitude of people towards a police officer when they are simply doing their job? I can't believe some of the things people say when someone is merely getting a ticket.

I am sick of seeing TV shows that give people the spotlight for their grievances about getting caught. Why aren't we villifying these people? Instead we interview and do shows on A&E about them. Anarchy is coming people. Everyone seems to want it, and where will you be safe when it's here?

I don't for a minute think the video games, music, movies or even books are the problem. It's us, it's how we think. for all our advances and technology, most of us are still pretty stupid.

Our society has elevated these things to cool, and everyone wants it. Think about what the people of 3000 AD have to look back on in History (provided we all don't go up in a Judeo Christian/Muslim fireball). We look back on Michaelangelo, we had Einstein, Hawking, but now we give you Britney, Christina and 50 Cent (who is worth half that in my book). Not looking real good for our era is it?

We need a renaissance. We need to aspire to be better than what we are today. We need some heroes, and we need them now. Sadly, there are none to be found on either side of the game right now.

I am now depressed. Wish I'd never read this topic. Rant over.

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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 6:09 PM


These days, Dave, the name of the game is not achieving something great with your life, it's simply getting more than the next guy, and having everyone tell you how great you are because of it.

It's tough being a nobody, and there are many many quick and easy ways to the top of the "heap", not all necessarily moral. These are the people who are heroes, because people can relate to them and see themselves JUST like them. Therefore their actions are emulated....

However, I think there is also a segment of society that has grossly confused fear with respect. Simply because I fear you does not mean for one second you have any control or power over me. I am constantly amazed by that misperception.



About the video game angle, though....

I have played violent video games, and have enjoyed them mostly for the game play angle not strictly because of the violence or subject matter. I can get just as much of a kick out of a non-violent game as I can a violent one.
I LOVE GTAIII, but mostly for the immerse environment and the game play, and humor, not because it gives me the ability to beat down on cops or steal cars. It’s what you make of it, really.

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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 6:22 PM
Yeah, I see the point, but doesn't paying money for it send a clear signal to the people making it?

I choose not to give my money to those people.

That's why the failure of TRON 2.0 burns so much for me. It was a great game, that had a level of action (yes, violence) that wasn't disrespectful to anyone other than imaginary programs getting derezzed.

Things like that that are worth of people's time and money get cast aside for the more hardcore games. Too bad in my view.

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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 6:24 PM
DaveTRON Wrote:Yeah, I see the point, but doesn't paying money for it send a clear signal to the people making it?

Yeah, I wanted them to make another one. They did, and now there's one on the PSP



 
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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 6:47 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:

We've gotten into this before so I won't resurrect my stance on the take on video game violence..... But I will say this again....

Every generation has this issue come up. From Rock-N-Roll corrupting youths... to violence in movies and TV.

Trust me, when something new comes along that people can blame things on and make a few bucks at it then focus will turn to that and video games will be forgotten.


I agree, Boingo. I had to write a paper on this kind of thing in Global Studies class...
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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 7:07 PM
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on Wednesday, November, 09, 2005 10:13 PM
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on Sunday, November, 13, 2005 11:22 AM
If it makes you feel better Dave, the heros, dreamers, artists, and people who try to aspire for something better are still out there, and will always be no matter what. Yes, it's easier today not to see them in the ocean which is plastered with lightbulb covered billboards trying idealize what is cool. The thing is those billboard frames split and creak trying to support the dead weight. Just avoid those lights and you'll see the others, it's that effort that also makes it worth it. Eventually those billboards topple over and their wake cancles out their mimicers. When it does, the others will be standing there... pointing and laughing.

Yeah, never ever understood the whole "Everybody gotta be a Ganster" thing today.

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on Tuesday, November, 22, 2005 8:14 PM


I found out yesterday that Jack Thompson just lost his license to practice law. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!



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Re: Jack Thompson to lose licence?

on Tuesday, November, 22, 2005 8:24 PM
In Flordia or Arkansas?

The judge revoked his temp license to practice law in Arkansas...

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Re: Jack Thompson to lose licence?

on Wednesday, November, 23, 2005 2:38 AM


Ah, damn. I thought he'd lost his license in his home state.

Well, at least losing his other license is a start. It might have an effect later, when it comes time to review his license ownership in Florida. I've heard that the Florida Bar have received a ton of complaints about him.



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