Program BASIC
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Posts: 148 | I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 7:16 AM
No, no, really, that's a very important issue. Example: if DaveTron gives me a CD featuring the installation of MULTIMEDIA PLAYER (improbable, I don't need a friggin' CD to do that and then I live in Italy, figure it out)... I'd be able to 'reproduce' the same program over and over into as many PCs as I want, right? Then... how would the whole thing end up? I suppose there will be 5 or 6 MULTIMEDIA PLAYER 'clones' in 5 or 6 different systems... and what if those clones meet each other one freaky day? (spoooky) Would they present some physical/conceptual differences to distinguish themselves one from another?
I mean... think about TRON, YORI, DUMONT... how many copies of 'them' could be running in countless systems? They are not that much 'unique' or 'individual', all in all, which is a disappointment. They are... just "casters". Reproducible programs. It's so sad guys, we're talking about our heroes!
Could we argue about this digital CLONATION process?
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Kamui
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 5:08 PM
I guess the User-world saying can totally apply: Everyone has a twin somewhere.
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Program BASIC
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Posts: 148 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 5:19 PM
Kamui Wrote:I guess the User-world saying can totally apply: Everyone has a twin somewhere.
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Kamui
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 5:21 PM
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Program BASIC
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Posts: 148 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 6:17 PM
Well... that's really strange!
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foilism
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Posts: 1,064 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 6:55 PM
i don't understand
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FreedomForever
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 7:19 PM
Weirdness...
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Tabulator
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Tuesday, November, 01, 2005 7:26 PM
I think that the program would actually look different depending on the system it's on and what it's used for. Wouldn't that affect their color at least? It would be the same thing as outside influences affecting the way even twins look and act in the real world.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 148 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Wednesday, November, 02, 2005 8:32 AM
| Tabulator Wrote:I think that the program would actually look different depending on the system it's on and what it's used for. Wouldn't that affect their color at least? It would be the same thing as outside influences affecting the way even twins look and act in the real world. |
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harpo989
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on Wednesday, November, 02, 2005 6:32 PM
Tabulator's probably right about them looking somewhat differently. But sopying programs would indeed be cloning them from a digital perspective (or it seems) and the program would obviously have the knowledge to do it's job, but the 'personality' would vary, I imagine. Of course, the only way two programs of the same kind would run into each other would be on the internet, right? (unless you have two copies on one machine) Of course, I've always wondered what Internet browsers looked like, considering thousands of copies all exist and would be on the internet... I imagine the programs don't find it that odd to see another 'version' of themselves grabbing data from servers and whatnot.
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Wednesday, November, 02, 2005 10:56 PM
Cloning is basically a duplicate set of DNA. So in the digital world this would be.... exact same code?
I imagine this would be a much more common occurrence in the digital world than in nature, and so a little more trivial.
As for what they would look like, programs tend to look like their user and not their programmer so they would look different, but serve the same function.
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Program BASIC
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Posts: 148 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Thursday, November, 03, 2005 7:57 AM
No, no. it's not supposed to go this way, Boingo.
I think the "users" in the movie are meant to be the factual programmers! If you think to it just for a minute, if it is supposed to go your way then we MUST see the faces of the Programs changing from time to time, in a matter of minutes, and this has occurred anywhere in the movie (nor in the game for instance)... not yet!
So, If I use the TRON program for a day, TRON's facial features should change from Alan Bradley's to mine just for that day?
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Thursday, November, 03, 2005 12:20 PM
True,
Walter does say at one point "And our spirit remains in every program we've written for the system."
What would clinch the argument is if we ever saw Mr. Henderson (Crom's User), or Ram's user. We know who Tron's, Yori's,Dumont's, and Clu's "users" were and they happened to be the same people who programmed them.
Also, in Tron 2.0 weren't there several programs with the same face?
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harpo989
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on Thursday, November, 03, 2005 5:32 PM
Yes... Mainly because it'd be too much work to model dozens and dozens of different looking programs, then try to find a way to stor all those models and textures on a couple CDs.
But actually, according to the game, one of the characters looks nothing like their user. So it would stand to reason programs follow the look of their programmers, not thier users.
Heh... Now I want to meet whoever programmed Mercury. 
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FreedomForever
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Thursday, November, 03, 2005 8:12 PM
Programs don't always HAVE to look like their users...Ma3a for example does not in any way resemble Alan. And Ram's user was the popcorn dude...
Also I have a theory about Mercury that would turn the idea that programs always look like their users on it's head...anmd now I'll go look at more info and see if I might be right...
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Thursday, November, 03, 2005 9:05 PM
| FreedomForever Wrote:And Ram's user was the popcorn dude... |
I thought Ram was an actuarial program for a big insurance company. Alan's dept. was definitely not insurance.
Flynn wrote Clu, who looked like him. One thing I thought about after I posted that programs look like their users. Sark says at one point "Users wrote us...." which means in the digital world "users" and "programmers" must mean the same thing.
Too bad this all isn't for real, huh? It would make tracking down the authors of computer viruses a lot easier 
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FreedomForever
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Friday, November, 04, 2005 7:45 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:| FreedomForever Wrote:And Ram's user was the popcorn dude... |
I thought Ram was an actuarial program for a big insurance company. Alan's dept. was definitely not insurance.
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Boingo_Buzzard
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on Friday, November, 04, 2005 8:41 PM
FreedomForever Wrote:
It was the same actor. It says in our own Sector's interveiw. |
Yes, I know it was the same actor, but I don't believe that character was tied to Ram at all.
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Nikster
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Posts: 2,691 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Friday, November, 04, 2005 11:56 PM
Unless that character wrote Ram 
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FreedomForever
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Posts: 0 | Re: I'm 'cracking' a program... CLONATION?
on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 11:39 AM
Which is what I was saying...
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