I read your posts in the other thread and I know this isn't quite what you had in mind, but it might work. I guess we'd have to try.

What about an ASCII game grid (could be replaced with digicons if/when Sketch has the time). Each player moves a pre-established 8 or 10 grid blocks (dots in this case) at a time... or some number that might be more feasible if 10 doesn't work well. There's a red cycle indicated by the "R" and a blue cycle indicated by the "B".

No high-speed reflexes necessary because it's turn-based. People would have to move and anticipate the moves of the other player with each set number of grid blocks they move.

The game might look like this in action:

..................R...................
..................R...................
..................R...................
..................R...................
..................RRRRR...............
......................R...............
......................R...............
...............BBBB...R...............
..................B...R...............
..................B...R...............
..................B...R...............
..................B...................
..................B...................
..................B...................
..................B...................
..................B...................
..................B...................
..................B...................


It's kind of tricky making the grid properly in the post text box - I had to use Notepad and a monospace font to space it out correctly, than I added the bold tags later indicating where the cycles are.

Any "." is a grid block that can be moved on. Of course, there is no diagonal moves - each move must be to the "." above, below, to the left, or right of current position.

The game ends when the loosing player can no longer move the pre-established number of grid blocks when it's their turn.

Possibilities?

Give it a try?

Someone start the game here:


...................R..................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
......................................
...................B..................


Try moving 8 grid blocks, and I'll counter move. Just make each move in a new post to keep track of the game. I'll apologize in advance if I don't post responses quickly
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Compucore Wrote:Hey Todd I don't know if you wre familiar with the good old BBS days in your neck of the woods there. . But up here it was fairly popular. And when you had mentioned to day of opening it up ion notepad thre. Kind of reminded me of a relly old dos program there that I used to use to help me create screen formats using ASCII characters. (Both plain and high ASCII characters thre.) Called The Draw. It was a fairly popular program for some people who used it for making intro screens for BBS's and who were programming back in the days with the earlier compilers.

Oh wow I remeber The Draw. Is it just the fog of memory or were programs way more useful back then?

Could be that too TherealTodd. I just happen to remember that so well I think I still have it on my original Toshiba T3200 Laptop over here somewhere. It wasn't a big program at all. Biut the nifty thing about it when it came down to saving what you were working on there. You were able to save it in different formats. And the two I rmemeber the most was the PAS and th C extensions there. Which automatically told the program to write it in th native code text file so it could be imported into the file (s) that you were working with for a program that you wre building wy back then. WEven if it was straight text for the commodore and the what nots. THat program was very useful indeed from my stand point since I was learning how to program on a Vax machine way back in th early 90's and learning pascal on my first XT computer that I had way back then.

Remember the days when we first got our first computers right after the commodores and the intellivisions and all that. When 512K-640K wre lare sizes for memory back then. And we had to use every available memory block back then for programming. I sure do. Thy wre like no more thean 4-6K the most. Maximum 64K before you started or needed to use overlays on thm on the compilers.

I remember a few times when working with C++ back then you could choose how big the executable could be and if yoiu needed to adjut for either small, medium or large programs it would adjust the length of th program itself when it would b compiling them. I think I still have my original diskettes for Pascal and turbo C++ over here for those in the early 90's somewhere. On both 5.25 and 3..5 disketts some where in my piles of disks over here. I think I still have an 8 inch diskette here too and that goes back even further. Which held something like 100-160K of information. WOW times have changed since then.

You got it, Corruption

Ok - game on!

Corruption in the "B" cycle vs. TheReelTodd in the "R" cycle!

Here's my move:


...................R..................
...................R..................
...................R..................
...................R..................
...................R..................
...................RRRR...............
......................................
......................................
......................................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................


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Corruption Wrote:Hm. I did not actually do the math, but I think I could win by moving up three, then left 1 and up again for the remainder--sealing you into right side, leaving you with 18 x 8 grids (minus 3) where I would have 19 x 8 grids (minus 5)

Actually - you should have tried that. You probably would have won quickly using that move. It's good to figure out if this turn based premise really works well or ends up being a case of whoever moves first ends up loosing or whatever. Maybe strategies can be formed or maybe the number of blocks needs to be increased or decreased to make the game work better.

Well - I'm enjoying it so far!

I think I'll survive your next move with this one. After that - I might be in trouble though. Too soon to tell


...................R..................
...................R..................
...................R..................
...................R..................
...................R..................
...................RRRR.R.............
......................R.R.............
......................R.R.............
......................RRR.............
...................BBBBBBBBB..........
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................

Ok, I'm safe for your next move... but I think I'm in a heap of trouble after that!


...................R...RRR............
...................R...RR.............
...................R....R.............
...................R....R.............
...................R....R.....B.......
...................RRRR.R.....B.......
......................R.R..BBBB.......
......................R.R..B..........
......................RRR..B..........
...................BBBBBBBBB..........
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................
...................B..................


Funny thing - the way the grid is starting to look, and the size of it and all - it reminds me of the old arcade TRON Light Cycle game. Those matches would often be over rather quickly (for me anyway) and with a similar look to the trail pattern (in other words - none of the fancy moves you'd see in TRON 2.0 online LC gaming).

It's also funny how you really have to carefully work out your move when playing turn-based like this. Not only do you have to calculate a safe move for yourself, you also have to take in to consideration your opponent's next potential move. It's a little like light cycle chess.

EDIT - I edited this post just after making my last move. Taking a second look at my move showed me that I had miscalculated. I don't think this qualifies as cheating since your next move had not yet taken place or even been considered, however I do feel it is important to point this out.

Corruption Wrote:Checkmate?

Yep - checkmate!

And GG, Corruption!

To commemorate this experiment in ASCII, turn-based light cycling, I've recreated our game in an animated TRON Arcade (sort of) recap of the events. This is what it might have looked like if it were played live. Some liberties were taken because of space limitations and the end (which was never really ASCII'd out), but the moves are 100% authentic otherwise.

Enjoy!



And for you TRON Arcade buffs out there - I did this (relatively) quickly and it was not intended to be an accurate representation of the TRON Arcade game. I just used the TRON Arcade cycles, logo, and the general look to animate this for fun

Todd, that is awesome!

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So are we having this thread here as a demo? I'm a little confused. The only thing that keeps coming to mind is a little known program called "Turtle." I think you guys broke my brains here. ^^;;

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