Scuzzy
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Posts: 1,608 | What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Saturday, January, 24, 2004 6:12 PM
So I was thinking, if Blue programs fight for  , and Red programs fight for Sark/MCP (well, not really any more, but anyway), and Purple are for fCom, Green is for the Corruption, what faction does Gold fight for?
 
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TheReelTodd
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Saturday, January, 24, 2004 6:29 PM
I've always thought of the yellow programs of not really fighting for any particular side, but perhaps an agent of a user, period.
A "yellow" might be put there for a specific purpose and driven purely by the motivation of the task at hand by the programming (or controlling) user.
It has no real side, but instead a specific agenda set forth by the user, and simply needs to achieve these goals for their user.
I base this on Clu. I know in terms of production, Clu was yellow because "the good guys" were originally going to be yellow and the bad guys green. But the way Clu appeared (to me) - he was simply put there to achieve a specific goal for Flynn. The fact that Clu was "fighting for the good guy" is second to the fact that Clu was designed by a user and controlled by a user for a specific purpose, and not a regular part of the system.
That's my take on it, anyway.
 
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Compucore
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Saturday, January, 24, 2004 7:12 PM
That is one way of looking at it thereeltodd. Myself as well. I thought of this myself. Again another view and not putting anyone down either. We all have different views here. Yello/Gold coloured programs. I thought of would be kind of the neutral btween the two. Not really belonging to one group or another. But just programs doing their own thing within the system. You know kind of like programs doing a certain task on their own. (one comes to mind an automated tape back up is an example.No human intervention unless if breaks down royally. Or programs that run in the backgroud in an operating system that clears unued memory once a particular program is terminated within the operating system is another one.) Thats what I had thought over here.
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Posts: 512 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Saturday, January, 24, 2004 7:21 PM
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Posts: 1,608 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Saturday, January, 24, 2004 9:40 PM
I'm going to have to go with Todd on this, and it's what I thought as well. While Clu was described as a "pirate program" by the guard, he (Clu) was just doing what his User told him to do from outside the system.
Hmm...maybe Golds are just visitors from outside the system, and just do what their Users tell them to. If the User tells them to fight Sark (which I'm sure they would anyway) then that's what they would do.
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harpo989
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Sunday, January, 25, 2004 1:04 AM
*rezzes in*
In Tron 2.0, the program that was working at the fCon firewall was gold. would that mean a user specificlly TOLD him to configure the firewall?
I'd go with background/misc programs, but that's just me.
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Posts: 1,608 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Sunday, January, 25, 2004 1:30 AM
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| harpo989 wrote:In Tron 2.0, the program that was working at the fCon firewall was gold. would that mean a user specificlly TOLD him to configure the firewall? |
Well, there were a lot of color conventions that were thrown out the window in  (Red not being "evil", they were system security files, for instance), but yes, why not? It could be that the gold programs found in the game were programs that were introduced from outside the system to do a job and get out. Kind of like if you used a remote PC program to get you into a system, do the work and get the heck out.
The problem is when those programs come in when their Users aren't working them to visit new friends that they met on the servers.
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Lance_E_Boy
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Sunday, January, 25, 2004 6:35 PM
The green programs are obviously pilots of recognizers or the programs that drive tanks.
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Lew
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Posts: 597 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Sunday, January, 25, 2004 6:54 PM
It would also seem that certain environments can change the colour of a program's circuitry, as evidenced by the fact that Flynn and Ram's circuitry changed from cyan to a sort of blue-green while in the stolen recognizer.
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Xurethax
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Sunday, January, 25, 2004 9:54 PM
Gold programs are supposed to be a bunch of religious zealots.
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gl
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Monday, January, 26, 2004 2:44 AM
| Mimizuku no Lew Wrote:It would also seem that certain environments can change the colour of a program's circuitry, as evidenced by the fact that Flynn and Ram's circuitry changed from cyan to a sort of blue-green while in the stolen recognizer. |
Ah, this one is tricky. On the original single-disc R1 DVD at least, that's true (and I really like the colour shift - so much so that I'm now looking to buy back one of those : ).
On the 20th Ann. edition though they changed the colour balance of the Recognizer scene - the circuits are back to cyan, and everything else is drenched in deep blue light (let me know if you want to see a screengrab).
Now i don't know what Lisberger originally had in mind - did he or someone else decide on the re-colouring? Does anyone remember how it looks in the original film print?
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Lew
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Posts: 597 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Monday, January, 26, 2004 4:44 AM
Depends on how your TV is set, I suppose. There's still a slight colour-shift towards green on my copies (although not as much as on the original letterboxed DVD).
Oh well, maybe when they release the Tron 30th Anniversary Hi-Def disc (complete with deleted scenes re-inserted into the film) they'll do a better job of the transfer
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Scuzzy
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Posts: 1,608 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Monday, January, 26, 2004 10:33 AM
gl: I think we would like to see the screen grabs and compare them, please. I don't remember that kind of a color change, and if I did I would chalk it up to a director's & FX crew's inexperience in adjusting ligthing in a technique that was new to them 
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flynn1978
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Posts: 1,077 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Monday, January, 26, 2004 11:27 AM
:{ Pacman. We fight for Pacman. 
   
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Scuzzy
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Posts: 1,608 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Tuesday, January, 27, 2004 6:16 AM
And another weird thing. On the lightcycle grid, identifies his team as Gold 1, Gold 2 and Gold 3.
*Suspenseful music plays*
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gl
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Tuesday, January, 27, 2004 6:21 AM
Lew, I watch my DVDs on a PC with a decent calibrated monitor. You're right, a slight shift is still on the SE disc, but it's very subtle compared to the original disc. Essentially they simply cranked up the blue intensity until the circuits looked cyan again.
| Scuzzy Wrote:gl: I think we would like to see the screen grabs and compare them, please |
I don't have an 'old' DVD at the mo, so I simulated the green-ish looking version (I just dropped the blue level a bit).
original (simulated)
SE (actual grab)
| I don't remember that kind of a color change, and if I did I would chalk it up to a director's & FX crew's inexperience in adjusting ligthing in a technique that was new to them |
I don't think that's the reason. Remember the colour was determined by the coloured filters they used, so they would have known precisely what colour they were getting.
I think it was either intentional (or artistic license, as you can see all over the film : ), or maybe it went wrong with the original film (some chemical processing problem).
If it was intentional, then it looks like someone thought it wasn't, and tried to 'fix' it on the SE discs...
Does anyone who's seen a film print remember what it looked like?
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Lew
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Posts: 597 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Tuesday, January, 27, 2004 7:01 AM
I'll see if I can get a grab from the original letterboxed version tonight. If it helps, on the old VHS releases there was no noticable colour-shift (then again, the quality on those versions was pants anyway)order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 1,608 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Tuesday, January, 27, 2004 7:13 AM
Very groovy screen grabs! I'm going to have to go with technical error over artistic liscense. But then again, I'm also convinced that, originally, was gold, so you never know. 
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gl
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Posts: 0 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Tuesday, January, 27, 2004 11:02 AM
Scuzzy Wrote:Very groovy screen grabs! I'm going to have to go with technical error over artistic liscense. But then again, I'm also convinced that, originally, was gold, so you never know.  |
Smile.
Lew, look forward to that grab : ).
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Lew
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Posts: 597 | Re: What kind of Faction do Gold programs fight for?
on Tuesday, January, 27, 2004 2:26 PM
OK. I grabbed a couple of frames from the original letterboxed DVD.
And here's gl's screengrab, resized to the same as my pics for comparison:
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