Hey all !

I was wondering, and sorry if this has been said or asked before, what people would want to see in a Tron sequel, "style" wise.

1. Live action with CGI ?
2. All CGI ?
3. Animated in a cool Japanese way ?

The most expensive choice is number 1 of course, and probably the best too, but I can't shake the idea that today's animation is simply fantastic and could be targeted at a much older audience. either be in CGI or Animated.

I for one would go the route of cell animation combinedwith CGI, very cost effective and you make it for a mature audience.

I too am very worried that a hollywood made sequel may tend to be "dumbed" down, or have too many execs input, suffer too many screenings alerations. These things occur because producers want to make sure their 60 milion investment will recoup. However a 8 milion animated with cgi movie would suffer less from hollywood influence and be very creative.

Am I crazy ? Or just plain wrong on this ?

Comments welcomed

-S

I'm kind of flexible in this myself. It would be either 2 and 3 if possible without blowing the pcolet book. Or seeing if its feesible in combination depending where you want to go on certain things. Again without blowing the budget. But the 2 and 3 sounds good.

What ever happens in the sequel they will never capture the magic of the original!

But how I see it , is that Tron is a one off, any improvements to CG will change the way the Tron world looks.

Also the world around us has changed to much, like computers have moved on to far for Tron to work.

And lastly I can't see another story with the same brilliance as the original ever being created without copying or completely changing the plot.

And we all saw what happened with sequal to the matrix. It was good,but when compared with the original, it was lacking in something, and that was originallity.

Sorry compucore but I can't agree with you in that department!!

Speeder thats why I had said that its okay that we can agree to disagree on this we all have our own interpretations of it. I'm not saying that your wrong and I'm right or that I am wrong and yor right. Just that we both have different meanings for it. Just so that we're on the right track on that part. And by the way I didn't even see the Matrix reloaded. Haven't had the chance to rent or buy DVD lately been too busy with the studies and looking for a place to do my apprenticeship over here.

And yes I do agree with you that computers have changed a lot since tron Inception. I've been through it as a technician and seen the many changes that have occured in the technology.

Well we all know the original tron movie was made very welll I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But it would have been nice to have seen a directors cut with the two missing scenes that were taken out as well. Ya still can have the original the way it was made. And/Or another with what was missing or shoud have been left in. Heck I have terminator 2 Judgment day the dvd edition. and it has two versions of the movie. A directors cut and the way it was made originally for the big screen. I've seen both of them. And I like both editions of it. I believe even Lisburger or ellenshaw had said now correct me if I'm wrong that could have left those two scenes that were left on the cutting room floor. Do you remember that..

Speeder Wrote:But how I see it , is that Tron is a one off, any improvements to CG will change the way the Tron world looks. Also the world around us has changed to much, like computers have moved on to far for Tron to work. And lastly I can't see another story with the same brilliance as the original ever being created without copying or completely changing the plot. And we all saw what happened with sequal to the matrix. It was good,but when compared with the original, it was lacking in something, and that was originallity. Sorry compucore but I can't agree with you in that department!!

Personally I think total CGI would be perfect for Tron mainly because that way you have total artistic control over how the film looks and can be presented. You won't be restrainded by the limitations of cameras, sets, actors, or reality. It would be very appropriate for the film since the original made the first major attempt to use CGI. I think the film deserves the digital treatment. I mean with CGI you can fully immerse the audience in visuals and create your own world. Disney does so well putting both the artisitc and story elements into their films. They cold do this, I know it. This could be another big leap in animation for them.

I say this because every big budget CGI/Live action film I have seen in theaters I've always heard the blasted "That scene looks so fake!" I get tired of hearing that. But, I have noticed with total CGI films you don't really get that since there's no real elements in the film to compare the CGI too. I hope that made sense.

EDIT: Also... CGI would allow the original cast the opportunity to be their original characters. Like in 2.0 they can lend their voice to Disney. As a fan, it would be very hard to see other peole playing Tron, Yori, Flynn, Ram or Sark.

Problem with total CGI?

It'd need a HUGE budget. Squaresoft nearly went bankrupt with FF:TSW (no thanks to the losers who said, "Oh, it sucks! I won't see it!" ><; Aaaah!!!)

CGI/Live action seems cheaper that way, IMO. =/

I would be interested to see what an anime/manga style tron would look like, if it was made by the same guy who gave the world "GHOST IN THE SHELL" I think it would be done really well. besides, most of those manga cartoons are set in a technology-dominated world, they should be brought one step closer by sending the [slightly violent] pointy-chin wonders into a computer

I go with number 3...

IMAGinES Wrote:Hmm. Your points are good, 88MPH, but I think a live-action real world makes a better contrast with a combination or total-CGI Electronic World. When the whole movie isn't "real", you lose that feeling of *difference*. The real world sequences wouldn't need any obvious VFX, which ought to take the costs down a bit. The original movie wasn't using A-list actors (I don't think Jeff, although a good actor, was on the A-list at the time), so there's no reason to blow your budget on any this time around. (Assuming he gets brought back on board, is Jeff on the A-list nowadays?) Fingers crossed, Disney might keep "executive input" out. They've had a whole bunch of CGI-based hits lately, so maybe they'd be more wilign to take a risk on something that mixes it up; it'd be a "fresh" approach. These be my comments! :-)

Kia's right and your comment's very good! It wouldn't be the same if we saw a "digital" representation and not Mr. Bridges in the ACTUAL FILM! SAME FOR THE REST!

Sketch Wrote:Personally I think total CGI would be perfect for Tron mainly because that way you have total artistic control over how the film looks and can be presented. You won't be restrainded by the limitations of cameras, sets, actors, or reality. It would be very appropriate for the film since the original made the first major attempt to use CGI. I think the film deserves the digital treatment. I mean with CGI you can fully immerse the audience in visuals and create your own world. Disney does so well putting both the artisitc and story elements into their films. They cold do this, I know it. This could be another big leap in animation for them. I say this because every big budget CGI/Live action film I have seen in theaters I've always heard the blasted "That scene looks so fake!" I get tired of hearing that. But, I have noticed with total CGI films you don't really get that since there's no real elements in the film to compare the CGI too. I hope that made sense. EDIT: Also... CGI would allow the original cast the opportunity to be their original characters. Like in 2.0 they can lend their voice to Disney. As a fan, it would be very hard to see other peole playing Tron, Yori, Flynn, Ram or Sark.

I have to think there should not be total CGI. There could be some great motion capture tatics taken like Gollum and applied to some of the programs. This wouldn't be hard to gel, due to the fact that Final Fantasy the Spirits within had such a close line to looking real-and there's been a nice span of time since that was made.

It is not a real problem to combine the actors and the digital ones...with that push to combine them, there just might be some new ideas developed on how to combine them that would expand and enrich the electronic world!

I want the new film to echo the original-with actual people in it.

"Well programs will be thinking soon..."

"He he ha ha...won't that be grand? The computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop."

I would agree with you on this Davetron. Like the original Movie of Tron. Where you have it half and half. I know that the original Tron Movie had something like only30 minutes or so of CGI for the film. But I think Like yourself that there should be both CGI and real world combined for the sequal.

DaveTRON Wrote:Wouldn't live real world and CGI TRON world scenes make sense?