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http://shethought.com/2010/12/19/tron-legacy-where-are-all-the-women/
The people there are board so they did this.
I hope the girls here dont hate me now.

Considering that Quorra is one of the best female characters to come out of a movie in a long time, save for some of Angelina Jolie's roles, and considering that she's a vast improvement on Yori in the kickass department, I honestly can't complain that much. She's a hell of a lot more useful than most female roles in movies, even if they just couldn't resist putting her in frigging heels to kick ass in (because that's TOTALLY what I'd wear if I expected to be fighting for my life. Nothing like a little handicap to slow you down just when you're about to die. Makes it more interesting that way, right?).


But she's right: there could have been a lot more female roles. The lack of females in the original Tron could've been explained by a smaller number of female programmers in those days. These days there are many more--when I used to work at a bank data department, at least half the people there were female, working everything from the Help Desk to programming to InfoSec to being specialists on the software we used.

I mean, I suppose it's sad that I'm justifying here-- I shouldn't have to say, "well, at least they didn't put in the Sirens and then give women a few pasty stereotypical computer-geek dudes to look at" and feel grateful for just that, but let's face it: none of the dudes in this movie compare to the women, sorry. Garrett Hedlund is adorable in that "I'd like to hang out with him and play videogames" way, and Anis Cheurfa has a hot bod, but that's it. The counter to Gem is Castor, for heaven's sake. Then we have Jarvis, old Bruce Boxleitner, an old Jeff Bridges (who wasn't that great in his prime), and a Jeff Bridges with creepy CGI (though I know plenty of the women here are okay with that, lol). Even the dude in uniform is chubby (Ernie the security guard. Though I understand he was supposed to be a stereotype, so okay).

(They need to take a page from the book of 300, perhaps. If you're gonna make an action movie, put some nice male eyecandy in. As a female, I personally like action movies, but not every woman does, yet she'll probably end up going to at least a couple in her life because of friends and significant others. Put somebody hot in it. Gives us ripped Gerard Butler wearing next-to-nothing and suddenly just about any movie becomes watchable, trust me.)

I really was feeling the lack of female Disc Wars combatants. I suppose maybe they figured it was a little too painful and harsh to have Clu systematically killing women, or something?

At least you guys didnt take it the wrong way. Its all very true what you said. And did you read the comments on the page? They are more weird than the article!!

trekking95 Wrote: laphtiya Wrote:I think my friend Jodie will have a fit when she reads this LOL. What she will be really annoyed at is the fact that the lady who wrote this article assumes that sexism is something that can only be applied to females when in fact it swings both ways. Tron is not sexist in the slightist she says that Star Wars is sexist......ummm.......I don't see that? Like one of the comments below state, the whole movie revolves around the fate of the female lead character........this is sexist because..........? I can see how some things can be taken as sexism but not Tron legacy Star Wars is sexist?!? How would anyone figure that??

I'm sure she has her arguments, but I loved Leia's character as well. Yes, she and Han hook up, but I'm not sure I'd call that sexist--just about every story has to have two of the main characters hook up at some point. It's tired, but not necessarily sexist.

Leia rocked. She was smart, diplomatic, could shoot a blaster, ride a speeder, pilot a ship, pose as a bounty hunter to spy, and she didn't dress all in tight spandex and heels (okay, there WAS the bikini thing she wore at Jabba's place). And all this in the 70s. Most other movies don't have such strong female characters even these days. (I have no idea how Padme Amidala was as a character because I only saw one of the "prequel" flicks, but I think she kicked some ass too at some point in one of them, didn't she?.)


As far as what having more women would've added to the movie: on the outside, nothing. But I like diversity in my films, stories, etc., just as we find it in the world. If all of the characters were white (and note: all of the main characters ARE; you've got a couple secondary characters who are black or Asian, but that's it), I'd have the same problem with it. My fanfic has characters who are female, black, Asian, middle-Eastern, South Asian, Latino, gay, in interracial relationships... because that's how the world around us is and it would be silly not to reflect that. Besides, on the Grid that shouldn't matter because they don't have the same traditional social mores we do and there's really no reason there to have discrimination based on sex, skin color, sexual orientation, etc.

Kat Wrote:Besides, on the Grid that shouldn't matter because they don't have the same traditional social mores we do and there's really no reason there to have discrimination based on sex, skin color, sexual orientation, etc.

I completely agree with this.

Stepping back to the Leia in bikini but just remember she was Jabba's personal slave girl so it isn't like she could be wearing much else. And it might have been to degrade her slightly being someone as powerful as she is.

LWSrocks2 Wrote: Kat Wrote:Considering that Quorra is one of the best female characters to come out of a movie in a long time, save for some of Angelina Jolie's roles, and considering that she's a vast improvement on Yori in the kickass department, I honestly can't complain that much. She's a hell of a lot more useful than most female roles in movies, even if they just couldn't resist putting her in frigging heels to kick ass in (because that's TOTALLY what I'd wear if I expected to be fighting for my life. Nothing like a little handicap to slow you down just when you're about to die. Makes it more interesting that way, right?). But she's right: there could have been a lot more female roles. The lack of females in the original Tron could've been explained by a smaller number of female programmers in those days. These days there are many more--when I used to work at a bank data department, at least half the people there were female, working everything from the Help Desk to programming to InfoSec to being specialists on the software we used. I mean, I suppose it's sad that I'm justifying here-- I shouldn't have to say, "well, at least they didn't put in the Sirens and then give women a few pasty stereotypical computer-geek dudes to look at" and feel grateful for just that, but let's face it: none of the dudes in this movie compare to the women, sorry. Garrett Hedlund is adorable in that "I'd like to hang out with him and play videogames" way, and Anis Cheurfa has a hot bod, but that's it. The counter to Gem is Castor, for heaven's sake. Then we have Jarvis, old Bruce Boxleitner, an old Jeff Bridges (who wasn't that great in his prime), and a Jeff Bridges with creepy CGI (though I know plenty of the women here are okay with that, lol). Even the dude in uniform is chubby (Ernie the security guard. Though I understand he was supposed to be a stereotype, so okay). (They need to take a page from the book of 300, perhaps. If you're gonna make an action movie, put some nice male eyecandy in. As a female, I personally like action movies, but not every woman does, yet she'll probably end up going to at least a couple in her life because of friends and significant others. Put somebody hot in it. Gives us ripped Gerard Butler wearing next-to-nothing and suddenly just about any movie becomes watchable, trust me.) I really was feeling the lack of female Disc Wars combatants. I suppose maybe they figured it was a little too painful and harsh to have Clu systematically killing women, or something? Perhaps Flynn just preferred the company of men, and it reflected in his work on the grid? (Prays that Animusprime won't show up and post drawings of 'Flynn preferring the company of men')

I will report him if he does.

While many may just outright disagree with what the writer of the article stated, it does give some food for thought, and basically, there hasn't been much of an inclusion of Women in the TRONiverse, and specifically Tron: Legacy (yes, there was Quorra, and the Sirens, but I feel that Quorra could have been developed better, and the Sirens, too), and, in Legacy, let's also not forget that a very pivotal significant character was left out on both sides of the screen: Dr. Lora Baines-Bradley and her digital counterpart YORI. There would be NO travel between the two worlds without her technical prowess that created the Shiva Laser, in the first place. I seriously hope that we see Dr. Lora and Yori in both TRON: UPRISING as well as TR3N. We also don't even hear much of anything from Bonnie MacBird who helped Steven Lisberger initially flesh out the TRON world that we all love and enjoy. As much as I am in awe of TRON and TRON: Legacy, and recently TRON 2.0 (Yeah, I know I'm a little late to that party - I finally have a computer that can play it), I can also admit that it has some flaws. End of Line.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

Darth Tronage Wrote:I think people should just make movies the way they see it in there head. Changing the story to be politically correct is stupid. Create it the way you want it to be and change it only if it's in line with your vision of the film. Of course, Lucas added Lando in Empire because of complaints there weren't any black characters in Star Wars. And what would the world be like without Lando Calrissian. But, despite Lando's smoothness, I think changes to the story should only be done if it fits with the writer's vision and not pressure from politically correct activist groups.

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My 5yr old daughter loved tron legacy. She loves Quorra and I encourage her to identify with a strong, yet believable female character. Not too many of those in any film these days and I'm more than happy with Tron in those terms. The fact that Quorra saves Sam x3 times is also a nice point.