I'll skip quoting for this response.

Yes, I have a DOT, but it isn't the full environmental unit, it is the sawed off version they did. So it is an environmental in part, they just cut off the back section.

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tomstroncollectible Wrote:If piracy gives these companies even the slightest proverbial thumb in the eye, so be it. These artists, actors, actresses... they have more money than they'll ever spend in their lives. Personally, I don't think they deserve it nor have they earned it.

Not necessarily. Consider the French electronic producer DaTA. His music is absolutely brilliant, but he's fairly unknown compared to others in his circle. I know his debut album Skywriter was not widely available for purchase, and most of the people I know who HAE heard it torrented it. DaTA is most certainly not rolling in it when you consider artist like Justice or Daft Punk. Piracy can really hurt small newcomer artists.

Boba Fettuccini Wrote:Not necessarily. Consider the French electronic producer DaTA. His music is absolutely brilliant, but he's fairly unknown compared to others in his circle. I know his debut album Skywriter was not widely available for purchase, and most of the people I know who HAE heard it torrented it. DaTA is most certainly not rolling in it when you consider artist like Justice or Daft Punk. Piracy can really hurt small newcomer artists.

You readily admit to downloading movies via torrents but then turn around and lament about piracy hurting small newcomer artists. I find that curious.

I've never heard of who or what DaTA is but I've heard the sob stories of struggling artists more than once in my lifetime. It's an old story that gets older with each re-telling.

My response is that collateral damage is unfortunate but it does occur. You can't stop it any more than you can stop the changing tide of the ocean. It's just the way life is.

My opinion remains unchanged on the subject of piracy. I'm all for it giving the entertainment industry the proverbial thumb in the eye. order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

tomstroncollectible Wrote: Boba Fettuccini Wrote:Not necessarily. Consider the French electronic producer DaTA. His music is absolutely brilliant, but he's fairly unknown compared to others in his circle. I know his debut album Skywriter was not widely available for purchase, and most of the people I know who HAE heard it torrented it. DaTA is most certainly not rolling in it when you consider artist like Justice or Daft Punk. Piracy can really hurt small newcomer artists. You readily admit to downloading movies via torrents but then turn around and lament about piracy hurting small newcomer artists. I find that curious.

I'm not lamenting - I'm merely pointing out that said statement wasn't exactly true. It was said that pirating music doesn't hurt the artist at all, and that's simply a non-truth. And music and movies are different animals. Related, but different all the same.
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Boba Fettuccini Wrote: tomstroncollectible Wrote:If piracy gives these companies even the slightest proverbial thumb in the eye, so be it. These artists, actors, actresses... they have more money than they'll ever spend in their lives. Personally, I don't think they deserve it nor have they earned it. Not necessarily. Consider the French electronic producer DaTA. His music is absolutely brilliant, but he's fairly unknown compared to others in his circle. I know his debut album Skywriter was not widely available for purchase, and most of the people I know who HAE heard it torrented it. DaTA is most certainly not rolling in it when you consider artist like Justice or Daft Punk. Piracy can really hurt small newcomer artists.

But are these people who would have bought it if they could've found it? With the alternative being, if they hadn't torrented it, they never would've heard it at all and he would've been even more obscure?abortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion

The only time I usually burn something off the net, is the stuff I can't find in stores. Like underground CD's thats just no longer exist. I'm not hardcore on downloading stuff. I like to support the people that made the things I like.

And when Tronzilla said:
I saw something about piracy at a theater once (is there any better place ). It talked about how Piracy may not affect the actors or the directors much, but what about all the other people that helped make that movie. The lighting guy, the sound guy, the guy that painted the sets. They're not super rich like the actors, they need the money. Our ticket stubs get them their pay stubs. You wouldn't deny a poor working guy his pay check, would you?

I remember seeing that video as well at the theater. That hit me pretty hard cause they do work hard to get these movies out.
Thats just my 2 cents...
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i honestly dont see a problem with pirating movies. with advancements in DVR technology, you might as well be considered pirating everythime you record a movie off of television.

same with music.

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