I suppose. I'm not one to always go against conspiracy theories. I like reading them and how they look at something from a completely different angle. I can see how it could make sense. The company that makes them for the UK basically runs a monopoly as the sole distributor of Tamiflu, thus getting a TON of money from it.

But considering that this strain of flu is similar to all of the other flu 'epidemics' that came and went centuries ago, it is more likely that they are a natural disease. If swine flu came out of the blue and no diseases had the same infectious behaviour in the past, then I would get suspicious.

@achilles
Well I would be against places like the whole of washington d.c. banning skateboarders, that's wrong. And I'm not quite sure what you mean by the difference this makes between commercial property owners and house owners.

data_ghost Wrote:But considering that this strain of flu is similar to all of the other flu 'epidemics' that came and went centuries ago, it is more likely that they are a natural disease. If swine flu came out of the blue and no diseases had the same infectious behaviour in the past, then I would get suspicious.

Yeah it's not like it's going to take the firstborn of every man who is silly enough to ignore it. I'm sure that works better for the masses.

According to the CDC it attacks young people, not old people, so that's something that's never been seen with flu. according to the numbers they forcasted, 1/2 may not know they're carrying it, but it probably attacks their immune system slowly, IMO probably will get a full blown case soon thereafter.

All I can say is good luck with all that thimerisol in the 3 shot immunization they haven't come up with folks, I probably wouldn't know if had it anyway. The only reason I thought maybe I did was because they said it's the only flu attacking people right now, and I got something nasty that I took care of. watch the autism count folks. w/ flu and w/o flu shots. Show me that study in two years.

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data_ghost Wrote: Sure viruses have dormant periods so something you got months, maybe even years ago could pop up now. I'm not too surprised that it attacks young people.

Sure, if it doesn't attack old people, and mostly attacks young people, it's no big deal. I'm not here to debate whether it works or not.

And I really hope you don't believe vaccines cause autism, man. That's what the media has been telling us all to sell newspapers and spark money making panic. There's no science behind it.

I can provide you with reasons, court cases, side effects, and whatever your newspapers don't provide. We decide in our courts. It's not up to you and I do decide. You can listen to truth, or you can listen to a lie. Your health care organization is getting sued just like ours by people who can make better science with today's technology. Big corporations are telling you it's rubbish.

Tell me why the drug companies, who can't afford to make a vaccine they can't even produce enough of - make one that has a shelf life of one or two years, instead of eight?

(requiring the use of thimerisol, which is 30X more potent than methylmercury, which I'm guessing here - is 50x more potent than mercury found in fish. (conservative guess)
The new chemical is made from mercury, even though they lie and say it doesn't contain it.)

You may not look for the science, but you're being led and given mis-concieved notions that someone over there can dispell the facts that -
A: The drug companies have been sued atleast twice reguarding mercury content.
B: They are eliminating the toxicity of said vaccines.
C: Scientists who disagree with big brother, are out to make a mockery of science, and like minded individuals, because kids become retarded within a year of the vaccinations, and their parents just won't pick up and shut up.

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Hmm, that is a very convincing argument Jademz. I guess the only reliable way to see how it turns out is to wait and see. Whether the pharmecutical companies have an ulterior motive or not, either way they are going to make a ton of money "legally".

Seriously how did we end up at swine flu? I thought this was to do with something like a video? I forget. Talk about digressing.

@achilles

Meh.

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