TronFAQ Wrote: Even though the second episode was pretty much a by-the-numbers affair, I think I still prefer it over last week's episode. However, there was one point about it that annoyed me. Highlight to reveal Spoiler:How is it that Skynet was able to send a Terminator that looked like Greenway? Considering that "all the records before the war" were destroyed and Skynet has always had such a difficult time tracking down Sarah and John, how could Skynet have made a Terminator that was a perfect imitation of Greenway? Even if you took into account the idea that the Greenway Terminator could have changed its appearance the same way Cromartie did, it really seems to be stretching the limits of believability. Did the real Greenway visit a plastic surgeon, too? Who just happened to have details on his face appearance and measurements? And this Terminator forced another plastic surgeon to make him look like Greenway?

Yeah, you're right, they did mess up big time on that point. Unless they can somehow explain this in an upcoming episode, they're really stretching the suspension of disbelief too far.

Otherwise, a decent episode; the T-1000 sub-plot is moving along nicely.

It just bugs me when writers eschew canon simply because it's convenient; that's pure laziness and an outright lack of imagination, plain and simple.

I like continuity, cleverness, and intelligent dialogue.

I also like special effects, car chases, killer robots, and explosions.

There's no reason I can't have it all, is there? Babylon 5, Farscape, and Stargate SG1 are prime examples of shows that by and large respected the viewer's intelligence.

This show doesn't need to set the bar, but it should try to get as close to it as possible, especially with a property as chock-full of potential as Terminator is.

Well, the third episode was much better. It gets a big thumbs up from me.

Looking forward to next week's episode. It's either going to be completely awesome, or a disaster, if you know what the next ep is about.

Holy crap, he revived it! A thread that's back from the dead!

I just wanted to talk a bit about the second season finale of TSCC. It aired last night. Now we wait until next month to find out if it gets renewed for a third season, or cancelled.

Right now, chances of renewal don't look too good. The long mid-season break, followed by a move to Friday nights and a three episode story arc that was - frankly - very dull, really put a dent in the ratings. The show stumbled, but in the last few episodes it got back on its feet and had some kickass episodes. I hope the bounceback wasn't too late to save it.

If you haven't followed along all season, the last couple of episodes probably won't make a lot of sense. But if you wrote off the show, you should really come back and watch these. Actually, the last several episodes have all been excellent. But these last two were "epic". Watch them on Hulu, the Fox site, if you DVRed them . . . just watch them.

Here are my thoughts on the finale. Spoilers hidden for your convenience.

- When Cameron asked John to check her power cell for damage, I think she had an ulterior motive for doing so. In her own strange, twisted way, I think she was trying to get intimate with him. She has her own version of emotions that aren't quite the same as a human's, but clearly she "loves" him and can't find a proper way to say it or show it.

- This brings us to why she tried to get initimate with him, why she seemed upset when Ellison used the phrase "Will you join us", and why she also seemed upset after the battle in the police station and her face was half gone. When she said she wasn't 100%, she didn't mean due to battle damage. Again, she was speaking about her emotional state.

- Once she heard that phrase, her mission parameters changed and she knew she was going to have to sacrifice herself. She knew her human appearance would probably be damaged beyond repair, that she would "die" by giving up her chip, and that she would lose John. She wasn't going to be protecting him any more. That's why she was upset.

- My best guess is that in previous episodes, the liquid metal Terminator on the sub was what we came to know as Catherine Weaver. Why she broke away from Skynet isn't clear. Maybe John Henry already existed, and created her. But either way, she went against Skynet and converted some other machines (perhaps with John Henry's help) to her side. A third, independent and neutral side.

- There was an episode showing the future, where it was revealed Cameron was designed to replace a member of the resistance. She interrogated and killed Allison Young, and replaced her. Before killing her, she told Allison that there were some machines that wanted peace and that she was one of them. While it's possible that at this point she was already a part of them, perhaps even created by them, I really doubt it. I think it was just a ruse, especially considering Cameron killed Allison.

- I think Cameron was designed and built by Skynet, but when she was discovered and captured, John Henry or Weaver helped John Connor to re-program her. Her mission was to protect John, but also to later assist the neutral faction of machines in creating John Henry in the past.

TRON.dll Wrote:What's this? Fox did something right?

Yeah, they did. Sort of. Warner Bros. makes the show, but Fox airs it. I hope that Fox appreciates the show and renews it, but putting it in that Friday night slot didn't do the show any favors.

Anyway, I'll be really pissed if the show gets cancelled. The last couple of episodes were probably the best yet, out of the entire series. They brought back memories of T2, and that's as high a compliment as any Terminator fan can make. I think the finale, in particular, really paid tribute to T2. There was also a nice nod in the final episode to T1. You'll know it when you see it.

Opinion on the finale seems to be completely split, with people either raving about and loving it, or utterly hating it.

I definitely enjoyed it.