Tron Fanatic
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Posts: 1,461 | Sark's original function
on Monday, August, 14, 2006 7:08 PM
Anyone else ever wonder about this? Aside from the fact that he was written by Dillinger and serves as the right hand of the MCP, what was his purpose?
I somehow doube that Sark was originally created to serve the MCP, because Sark seems to show more independence than such a program would likely have (his hesitance to kill Flynn).
One has to wonder if Dillinger even remembers Sark. The MCP might've hijacked control of him without even asking Dillinger about it beforehand.
Just some random ideas, really. Any other speculations?
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zook_one
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Posts: 278 | Re: Sark's original function
on Monday, August, 14, 2006 8:03 PM
I think Sark was like a Tactically Logistics program or something. Can anybody confirm this? Was this ever stated in the Movie? I can't remember where I heard it, maybe just here in the sector?abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion
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What_Up.exe
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Monday, August, 14, 2006 9:11 PM
Yes, I am new, but here's what I think:
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TronFAQ
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Posts: 4,467 | Re: Sark's original function
on Tuesday, August, 15, 2006 10:01 AM
 
I've always wondered about the nature of Sark myself, and his specific relationship with Dillinger.
Just a wild guess . . . I think Sark was originally part of the MCP. But as the MCP gained more and more functions: it became less and less like its original creator, Dillinger. So Sark was somehow spun-off to become his own program, while the MCP became this new entity.
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Tuesday, August, 15, 2006 10:46 AM
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I agree with RedRain. When writing routines, sometimes they get too big to effectively manage so you have to split some code off to other routines just to be able to keep it efficient. This is probably what Sark is, which is why the MCP was able to transfer his "power" to Sark at the end.
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laphtiya
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Posts: 948 | Re: Sark's original function
on Tuesday, August, 15, 2006 11:45 AM
What is Sark was made BY the MCP? to handle the every day running of the system while the MCP concentrates on making himself bigger?
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Rerezzed Ram
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Wednesday, August, 16, 2006 1:23 PM
Here's my two DIMMS,
Dillinger wrote the MCP. As we are reminded from Dr. Walter Gibbs, "our spirit remains in every progam we write for this company." So the MCP originally looked like Dillinger.
As the MCP grew larger and became more self aware, it needed a program to handle the microcycle to microcycle administration of the grid so it "created" Sark from the original "chess program" code of its early years. The MCP began to see itself in control and Dillinger as its servant. Hence Sark is in Dillinger's image.
Dillinger knew nothing of Sark and thought of the MCP as his program, under his control. But actually, as we saw in TRON, the opposite was true. The MCP was in control of Dillinger and relished in that fact through its abuse of Sark.
However, with its loss of its "spiritual self", the MCP became wild, greedy and corrupt. Appropriating more and more progams in its mad search for its own identity. Which ultimately ended in the derezzing of a wrinkled, spiritually bankrupt, word processing program.
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Tori
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Wednesday, August, 16, 2006 3:16 PM
Maybe...MAYBE...Sark was a program kinda like Tron. But something happened and he was taken like the other programs. MCP was going to derezz him but decided against it, forcing him to be his assistant.
Kinda stupid, I know, but it could've happened.
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Tron Fanatic
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Posts: 1,461 | Re: Sark's original function
on Wednesday, August, 16, 2006 3:25 PM
Keep in mind though that there is a degree of leniance the MCP has towards Sark as well. The MCP trusts Sark enough to not force the belief in atheism on him. Unlike his underlings, Sark still believes in the Users and knows very well that he's creating a facade.
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Sora.EXE
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Wednesday, August, 16, 2006 3:34 PM
I think, (not fact) that Sark represents what happens when technology becomes smarter than us. Computers become smarter, and go power hungry. Sark is Dillinger, being controlled by the MCP. The only difference is that Sark is a program, and Dillinger is a user.
    
   
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laphtiya
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Posts: 948 | Re: Sark's original function
on Wednesday, August, 16, 2006 7:25 PM
Tori Wrote:Maybe...MAYBE...Sark was a program kinda like Tron. But something happened and he was taken like the other programs. MCP was going to derezz him but decided against it, forcing him to be his assistant.
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I kinda like that idea, because Sark says to Tron "You should have joined me we would have made a great team".
Perhaps Sark is the Encoms security program and the MCP convinced him to go along with his global take over. Think about in the Game Sark goes up against programs derezzing them left right and centre, maybe he was a bored (or very agressive) security program and the MCP promised to give him more challenging opponents if he would join him.
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Hikaru.EXE
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Posts: 1,005 | Re: Sark's original function
on Wednesday, August, 16, 2006 8:16 PM
I agree with laphitya. The fact that they would have made a great team is probably because Tron and Sark shared the same function: being a security program.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Sunday, August, 20, 2006 12:35 PM
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Tron Fanatic
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Posts: 1,461 | Re: Sark's original function
on Sunday, August, 20, 2006 1:21 PM
Well if we're to believe CROM... at least I think it was CROM, he said that...
the MCP absorbs programs that it feels are useful to add to its functionality.
Anything it deems unuseful gets sent to the game grid to die.
But then Sark gives the conscripts the option to abandon the Users and join the MCP's warriors.
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Capt_Capacitor
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Posts: 0 | Re: Sark's original function
on Monday, August, 21, 2006 9:40 PM
Tron Fanatic Wrote:Well if we're to believe CROM... at least I think it was CROM, he said that...
the MCP absorbs programs that it feels are useful to add to its functionality.
Anything it deems unuseful gets sent to the game grid to die.
But then Sark gives the conscripts the option to abandon the Users and join the MCP's warriors.
One has to wonder exactly how far this goes. Can a program that the MCP wants to absorb beg to maintain its independant existence in exchange for service? |
Actually, it was RAM who said that to CROM 
I like to think that the MCP created Sark from either a piece of its own code or some code that it had written in order to satify its own desire to surpass the power of the users. Remember, in the digital world, users are worshiped as gods by the faithful programs. If the MCP is to be considered better than any user, he must be able to do the one thing that users can do that no program can, create digital life.
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RenegadeProgram
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Posts: 593 | Re: Sark's original function
on Thursday, July, 24, 2008 10:05 AM
Capt_Capacitor Wrote:Tron Fanatic Wrote:Well if we're to believe CROM... at least I think it was CROM, he said that...
the MCP absorbs programs that it feels are useful to add to its functionality.
Anything it deems unuseful gets sent to the game grid to die.
But then Sark gives the conscripts the option to abandon the Users and join the MCP's warriors.
One has to wonder exactly how far this goes. Can a program that the MCP wants to absorb beg to maintain its independant existence in exchange for service? |
Actually, it was RAM who said that to CROM 
I like to think that the MCP created Sark from either a piece of its own code or some code that it had written in order to satify its own desire to surpass the power of the users. Remember, in the digital world, users are worshiped as gods by the faithful programs. If the MCP is to be considered better than any user, he must be able to do the one thing that users can do that no program can, create digital life. |
I think that Sark is the MCP's lapdog, and pretty much is around to do the MCP's dirty work. Whether or not Sark was originally part of the MCP, is up to speculation in my opinion. I also like the theory that maybe at one time, Sark was like Tron and then got corrupted by the MCP, especialy the line where he says, "You should have joined me. We would have made a great team". I also like the theory that maybe TRON is a security program that is for the Users while maybe Sark is same for the ENCOM top brass.
Sorry if I'm a little off-topic, but, I've also got a few other questions I've pondered while watching Tron:
A)When things happen in the world of Tron, do they happen in real time as compared to time in the real world?
B)Was there ever a specific name for the world of Tron? I recall terms such as, "The Sea of Simulation", "The Game Grid", and others. I'm thinking of doing a fanfic, and may refer to the Tron world as being comprised of different sectors, which to me makes more sense.
Looking forward to hearing back. Thanks.
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Cam_the_Man
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Posts: 1,747 | Re: Sark's original function
on Thursday, July, 24, 2008 1:12 PM
RenegadeProgram Wrote:Capt_Capacitor Wrote:Tron Fanatic Wrote:Well if we're to believe CROM... at least I think it was CROM, he said that...
the MCP absorbs programs that it feels are useful to add to its functionality.
Anything it deems unuseful gets sent to the game grid to die.
But then Sark gives the conscripts the option to abandon the Users and join the MCP's warriors.
One has to wonder exactly how far this goes. Can a program that the MCP wants to absorb beg to maintain its independant existence in exchange for service? |
Actually, it was RAM who said that to CROM
I like to think that the MCP created Sark from either a piece of its own code or some code that it had written in order to satify its own desire to surpass the power of the users. Remember, in the digital world, users are worshiped as gods by the faithful programs. If the MCP is to be considered better than any user, he must be able to do the one thing that users can do that no program can, create digital life. |
I think that Sark is the MCP's lapdog, and pretty much is around to do the MCP's dirty work. Whether or not Sark was originally part of the MCP, is up to speculation in my opinion. I also like the theory that maybe at one time, Sark was like Tron and then got corrupted by the MCP, especialy the line where he says, "You should have joined me. We would have made a great team". I also like the theory that maybe TRON is a security program that is for the Users while maybe Sark is same for the ENCOM top brass.
Sorry if I'm a little off-topic, but, I've also got a few other questions I've pondered while watching Tron:
A)When things happen in the world of Tron, do they happen in real time as compared to time in the real world?
B)Was there ever a specific name for the world of Tron? I recall terms such as, "The Sea of Simulation", "The Game Grid", and others. I'm thinking of doing a fanfic, and may refer to the Tron world as being comprised of different sectors, which to me makes more sense.
Looking forward to hearing back. Thanks.
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RenegadePrgram, you should talk to David1. He doesn't come to Teh Sector as much, but he has a fantastic fan-fiction that we aer waiting for teh conclusion of. He answered all those questions and more, such as time-difference (I think he said things happen 60 time faster in the digital world than in the real world... an example of this is when a digitized User comunicates with the Users on the outside world, the digitized User's typed responses appear almost instantaneously, whle the Users's in the real-world's response seemed to take 15 minutes per letter.) Once again you should talk to David1, he's very adept at answer these question in a way that retains the character of TRON.
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RenegadeProgram
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Posts: 593 | Re: Sark's original function
on Thursday, July, 24, 2008 2:00 PM
COOL! I'll have to search out this guy on the fanfic section - what is his fanfic called? Is it still on this site?
I've also got an idea for a fanfic, (it may take me forever to do, LOL!!!, as Fatherhood is one of my main things now, and my Daughter who'll be two in August, is my main production right now). The rough title is, "TRON:The 3rd Sector". Right now, I just keep seeing rough parts of it in my head, as well as a poster I may draw at some point and post on here in the future. May be written in screenplay format. Thanks.
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Cam_the_Man
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Posts: 1,747 | Re: Sark's original function
on Thursday, July, 24, 2008 2:41 PM
 
Here is his thread:
http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=top&id=356467
He used to update eevry 1-2 weeks. He hasn't updatyed in a while 
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