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 Posts: 0 | Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Saturday, March, 25, 2006 10:50 PM
Perhaps a stupid question, but after watching ReelTodd's Cutting Room clip and some of the other clips he did (Cutting Room vid blew me away!), I recalled that many years ago I did stop motion with the parental unit's home camera. Not to date myself too precisely but this was around the time calculator's were new and fascinating..... and expensive.
I'm not sure but I think I was almost cool once (back in the 70's) and there might be something worth preserving or sharing.
Assuming the film is still viable, how would I go about converting to CD or DVD? I don't know how to interface with the 8mm film. Is there a service available still to put home movies on VHS? (now that's a medium I can deal with) Am I just a noob or what?
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Sunday, March, 26, 2006 1:19 AM
last I heard, a professional may be needed, unless you can run the film into a projector and film it with a nice cam corder.
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 Posts: 1,760 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Sunday, March, 26, 2006 3:29 AM
My brother bought an 8mm camera a few years back, and after filming a lot of weird stuff, we sent the film off to Kodak to get it developed. They sent us back a developed roll of film, but you can get it put onto video/dvd with different services.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Sunday, March, 26, 2006 4:37 PM
Batman Wrote:Perhaps a stupid question, but after watching ReelTodd's Cutting Room clip and some of the other clips he did (Cutting Room vid blew me away!).. |
Thank you!  I'm glad you enjoyed! It was a LOT of hard work, but I always wanted to do something like that.
Batman Wrote:...I recalled that many years ago I did stop motion with the parental unit's home camera. Not to date myself too precisely but this was around the time calculator's were new and fascinating..... and expensive. |
  I vividly remember playing with my Dad' calculator back in the mid 70's. It was the size of a modern cordless phone (not wireless/cell), perhaps a bit thicker. It had a light-up green display and a brown/beige color scheme to the outer plastic shell. When the "=" button was pressed, there was actually a slight pause and blink before the result would display - it was not instantaneous like today's credit-card sized calculators. I also remember that pressing the devided-by key followed by "=" would trigger it in to an auto-counter and it would keep counting up to infinity (or the end of the display screen) as long as you'd let it. I thought that was really cool too. I think my Dad said he paid about $40.00 or more for that thing back then. And as you know, $40.00 back in the 70's was worth a lot more than it is today.
Back in the early 80's... perhaps 1981 or 1982, I made a stop motion animation with clay creatures and my parent's Super-8 movie camera. It was a short sequence about worms moving around and then being attacked and eaten by a blue monster creature... who was then eaten by the worms when they all ganged up, formed a giant worm, and then ate him. It came out awful because I held in the button for a "1001" count each time and when the film was developed (a grueling three week wait) it played the exact same way - each "frame" was actually about a second. But that is how I was told to do it. Should have not listened to that little tidbit of "advice". Oh well. I still have it in a box somewhere, not sure if the film is any good now. The last time I looked at my old family films (a good 10+ years ago) small markings were present on the film indicating that it was chemically breaking down. I'm sure it is even worse now. Bummer.
Batman Wrote:Assuming the film is still viable, how would I go about converting to CD or DVD? I don't know how to interface with the 8mm film. Is there a service available still to put home movies on VHS? (now that's a medium I can deal with) |
I think you can take old Super-8 films and have them converted to VHS or DVD if you look around. You'll have to do a little research but I bet you find a place that can hook you up. I have no idea the cost. You might be able to pull it off yourself too, but probably not with high quality results.
If you take the film and project it 1st against a mirror (to reverse the image) and then on to a blank, white sheet of paper that is propped up, and face a video camera toward the white paper "screen" from the other side, you may be able to capture the film on to video. Be sure to play with the camera's iris setting so that the film is not too bright and not to dark - do NOT leave it on auto-iris. Adjust the focus manually as well - don't leave it up to auto-focus. You may end up with a really bad flicker in the video though. Have to try it and see what you end up with.
Batman Wrote:Am I just a noob or what? |
Hey - we all have to start out somewhere, right? I'd say follow through and see what you come up with. I'd be interested in seeing it if you're able to get it converted to video.
        
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Sunday, March, 26, 2006 8:47 PM
"I vividly remember playing with my Dad' calculator back in the mid 70's"
Remember the red LED calculator readouts? he he you must be an old fart like me?
I had a manual frame 8 mm so it was basically 2 frames, move, 2 frames moves and it came out really nice. We all wanted to be Ray Harryhausen back then BIG  .
My brother and I did clay figures and some GI Joe and Johnny West freeze frame. Never could get the hang of motion (walk/run) but we could do arm and body movements. I also had been an avid military modeler prior to discovering film so I had a good sized collection 1/35th scale armored vehicles.  I did a tank battle and used firecrackers for some pretty neat results for a teenager. I even simulated a flamethrower by lighting model cement and stomping on the tube!
Our crowning achievement was a short film combining live actors (us) and stunts by GI Joe and even a 747 exploding in midair (fishing line/firecrackers). It was cheesily cool for our capabilities. By the way, our co-producer went on to work for Lucas Arts and now Microsoft and worked on PC games Sam and Max, Monkey Island, Full Throttle, etc. I hope the film has survived as I'm certain this stuff will make you laugh if nothing else.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Monday, March, 27, 2006 6:21 PM
It sounds like you did some cool things back in the day, Batman.
I'd really like to see what you and friends came up with!
Hopefully, you'll be able to get those old films properly converted!
        
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 Posts: 1,230 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Wednesday, March, 29, 2006 11:05 AM
Batman Wrote:"I vividly remember playing with my Dad' calculator back in the mid 70's"
Remember the red LED calculator readouts? he he you must be an old fart like me? |
I'm another one of those old farts.
Except in my case it wasn't my Dad's calculator. My uncle got me and my brother calculators for Christmas back around 1975. I wouldn't be surprised if I still had it somewhere but it'd take me forever to find it. It looked something like this...
Though I'm pretty sure mine wasn't a Goodyear. I remember it had an adapter and needed to be pluged in. Like Todd mentioned the calculations weren't instantaneous and the red LED in the 1's position would animate the 7 segments in an odd way to let you know it was "thinking" before the answer would pop up. I even remember the first two calculations I performed on the calculator. My uncle told me a story about Dolly Parton and had me do some math that resulted in 55378008.
Looking on line for the details as I've sence forgotten most of the story... The story went something like this...
Dolly Partons t*ts weigh 69 pounds.
(at which point you are to type 69 on the calculator)
The doctor said that was too, too, too much.
(now type 222)
So he gave her 51 pills
(now type 51)
to take 8 times a day
(You now should have 6922251 on the screen, take 8 times this number)
which left her what?
Turn your calculator unside down for the answer.
If this was '75 I was 6 years old (almost 7) at the time so maybe this also says something about the attitude toward topics like this back in the 70's. I'd find it an odd topic to address with a 6 or 7 year old today.
Here is the link that filled me in on the details of this one...
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=787316
By the way... the above link contains another similiar 'calculation' that I didn't hear back in 1975 that I'd rather not copy of here. The guts of that one is "11669*3=".
All I remember on the other calculation at the moment was that the answer was 71077345.
Looking for the details of this one I found another version of the above story/calculation here...
http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/39554,-1.php
Ok this site has some history of the 71077345 calculation.
http://www.langmaker.com/db/log_0501.htm
Apparently it dates back to 1972 and it states...
"One was asked to do a calculation about the price of crude oil where two answers were needed. The first answer was the profit and the second answer was who gets to keep the profit. The profit was, of course, 710,773.45 and by flipping over the calculator, you got the other answer."
But is doesn't give out the details of the calculation or the little story that goes with it. Hmmm...
(By the way... see Trace On's comment about TRON on the above above link?)
Here this site gives a story behind 71077345...
http://playgroundlaw.com/cgi-bin/browse.pl?sid=766
"Once upon a time, '7' men paid '1' pound for a hole in the ground ('0'). No-one could see the point ('.') of this, but the '7' men became millionaires within '7' nights. How? Well, '3' of the men built a drilling machine above the hole, whilst the other '4' made it work. By '5' o'clock, the men had discovered something. Do you know what it is yet?"
But I vividly remember doing a calculation and I now can't seem to find it. Anyone here remember it?
I did spot where someone points out 71077345+6= gives you something mildly interesting.
I'll give up looking for now...
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 Posts: 1,230 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Wednesday, March, 29, 2006 12:01 PM
wwwmwww Wrote:
If this was '75 I was 6 years old (almost 7) |
Well I just emailed my uncle at this wasn't in '75. I remember the house he lived in that Christmas and he lived there from 1982 through 1986. And I now also remember something else that happened near that Christmas that allowed me to pin down the year. It was the Christmas of 1983.
His responce about the joke...
"I remember the joke, but I don’t have clue as the numbers that were multiplied together to get to that result."
Oh well, it was worth a try...
Carl
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 Posts: 2,232 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Wednesday, March, 29, 2006 2:46 PM
That's easy, just buy a ticket 30 days in advance and then take it down to the Laser Bay at ENCOM!
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Wednesday, March, 29, 2006 7:40 PM
wwwmwww Wrote:Batman Wrote:"I vividly remember playing with my Dad' calculator back in the mid 70's"
Remember the red LED calculator readouts? he he you must be an old fart like me? |
I'm another one of those old farts.
Except in my case it wasn't my Dad's calculator. My uncle got me and my brother calculators for Christmas back around 1975. I wouldn't be surprised if I still had it somewhere but it'd take me forever to find it. It looked something like this... |
Wow - I remember calculators that looked like that!
My Dad's was a bit different, though.
His had a green display, and was situated landscape - like the Windows calculator when it's in scientific mode... only his calculator only had the basic functions and a few other buttons that I can' remember totally.
It was almost an inch thick, and about the size of a checkbook (face area). It ran on 6 AA batteries... or was it 4? Memory is sketchy there. It also had an A/C adapter port to save on batteries.
It was a lot of fun to play with. Back then, there wasn't much else high-tech that I could get my hands on. Wow - remember when calculators, were considered "high-tech"? 
How old are we!
It died in the late 80's. I wish my Dad had kept it. Even non-functional, it would have made a really cool piece of memorabilia of yester-years geek technology!
        
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Thursday, March, 30, 2006 12:57 AM
TheReelTodd WroteIt died in the late 80's. I wish my Dad had kept it. Even non-functional, it would have made a really cool piece of memorabilia of yester-years geek technology!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks like this. I find something strangely cool in items such as 8 track players, reel to reel players, 8 MM cameras, paperback sized calculators, etc. because at one point these were cutting edge technology yet now to my kids they are the equivalent of dinosaurs. (I guess like me)
Last week at work a student assistant casually mentioned to me regarding typewriters that he "had heard of them but never actually seen one"........
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Thursday, March, 30, 2006 1:03 AM
wwwmwww Wrote
All I remember on the other calculation at the moment was that the answer was 71077345.
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 Posts: 2,691 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Thursday, March, 30, 2006 1:32 AM
wwwmwww Wrote:
Except in my case it wasn't my Dad's calculator. My uncle got me and my brother calculators for Christmas back around 1975. I wouldn't be surprised if I still had it somewhere but it'd take me forever to find it. It looked something like this...
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OMU....my dad had a calculator like that....I used to play with it when I was a kid
His was a little different tho, the case was black, with a gold tone plate. I *think* it was made by Sharp. ________________________
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 Posts: 1,230 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Thursday, March, 30, 2006 9:54 AM
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 Posts: 0 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Thursday, March, 30, 2006 10:00 AM
I just remember being blown away with the technology involved in a SOLAR calculator. And if you put your finger over the solar panel it would shut off. AMAZING!!!!
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 Posts: 1,230 | Re: Easiest way to digitize 8mm film? on Thursday, March, 30, 2006 10:33 AM
This might be it...
http://knoxville.wate.com/sound_off/index.php?PHPSESSID=b023e8a623151c79475d7d57df429931&topic=1179.msg17504
Solve this on your digital calculator.
142 Arabs and 154 Israelis are fighting over 69 barrels of oil for 5 days. Who won?
14215469
x 5
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71077345
Turn your calculator upside down to reveal the answer.
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