Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can help me answer these various questions about the movie.

(1) How did Michael Fremer - the sound designer - create some of the sounds effects for the movie, specifically the Lightcycle and the Recognizer SFX?

(2) How did MAGI and III transfer the computer graphics on film?

(3) What happen to the Kodalith cels after the movie was completed?

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TheReelTodd Wrote: 2) I think they said they were "printed" to film. I have no idea how that works. That could be a false memory - they might have said "transferred" to film, which again, I have no idea how. Good question. I'd like to know myself.

Maybe it's the same technique I used to use which pretty much went like this: Hook up my computer with a VCR (The big ol' heavy one in my basement that has some sharp pointy bits! 0_0;; ), play my video and record it on a tape on to my VCR. Probably a similar much more "primitive" technique was used, but it's probably quite similar to mine..... ^^;

~Kamui.EXE

Mr. Sinistar Wrote2) How did MAGI and III transfer the computer graphics on film?

I forget the technical name of the process. It's similar to telecine, but not quite the same.

Bascially, they output the graphics to a high resolution color monitor, that had a film camera mounted in front of it with a sort of funnel-shaped "tent" that blocked out all the light except from the monitor.

So they filmed it right off a monitor screen. Which, of course, they wouldn't do today any more. Now the whole process is digital from start to finish. The graphics are output directly to Hi-Def digital tape, with no steps in between.

TheReelTodd Wrote:1) The light cycle sounds were altered car engine sounds. I believe I remember hearing that the sound designer actually drove around town with a microphone mounted under the hood to get the audio. The sounds were tweaked and altered electronically to form the light cycle sounds we are familiar with. I also believe they imposed a jet engine sound over the engine sound for some of the clips seen in the film - that is what it sounds like to me anyway.

Okay, that makes sense! Thanks, Todd!

TheReelTodd Wrote:3) I think most of them were thrown away sadly.

That is sad.

DaveTRON Wrote: Harrison Ellenshaw has a large number of them that he uses for examples. His sets are quite complete and show the multiple levels of images they had to do.

Cool! Are any of those cels are in the image gallery on Tron-Sector?

HSBUser Wrote:Recognizer sounds: It has a "spinning" or "swirling" element to it, so it could have been a car/motor sound being broadcast from a Leslie Rotary Horn speaker. Also, it could have been made by a synth. I've made my MicroMoog sound pretty close a few times in the past.

I think you're right about the "spinning"effect. I opened up Winamp, and through a Plug-In I downloaded off of their website, I ripped open and copied a sound effect of an Recognizer from "TRON 2.0". When I listened to the clip, it sounds like it has a "Flanger" or "Phaser" effects to it. A Flanger or Phaser are musical effects that creates that "spinning" effect we're talking about.

I also think it was created by a synth (maybe with an arpeggiator) because it just sounds so unnatural. Also it sounds like they had it "under control", for example when Flynn stops the Recognizer when RAM derezzes, the "viberating" stops to a single note synth.

redrain85 Wrote: Mr. Sinistar Wrote2) How did MAGI and III transfer the computer graphics on film? I forget the technical name of the process. It's similar to telecine, but not quite the same. Bascially, they output the graphics to a high resolution color monitor, that had a film camera mounted in front of it with a sort of funnel-shaped "tent" that blocked out all the light except from the monitor. So they filmed it right off a monitor screen.

No way! That's unbelieveable!

By the way, I "googled" Michael Fremer and found this site. Upon closer inspection, the owner of the site IS the same guy who designed the sound for "Tron".

Here's a link:

http://www.musicangle.com/feat.php?id=80
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Mr. Sinistar Wrote:No way! That's unbelieveable!

Cheeky bugger. (I got the impression you were being sarcastic. Apologies if that's not the case.)

Man, the length of time it took to film even a short CGI sequence must have been astronomical back then. Each frame took something on the order of 10 minutes to render. So one second of footage may have taken four hours to film.