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DV8ER
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A question about Leagcy

on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 11:17 AM
So, I'm watching Legacy while working (Gotta report it in the "Another Dose" thread! ) and it hit me...

Kevin Flynn is in his safe house, he has Quorra with him and he's a user trapped inside the computer. He's been there for around 20 years why couldn't he create an army large enough to over run CLU? Given Flynn built the world, I would think he could build up an army of programs that all had permissions set specifically to Flynn to prevent CLU from re-purposing them and furhter, Quorra could help train Flynn's army?

Why not?

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on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 1:37 PM
DV8ER Wrote:So, I'm watching Legacy while working (Gotta report it in the "Another Dose" thread! ) and it hit me...

Kevin Flynn is in his safe house, he has Quorra with him and he's a user trapped inside the computer. He's been there for around 20 years why couldn't he create an army large enough to over run CLU? Given Flynn built the world, I would think he could build up an army of programs that all had permissions set specifically to Flynn to prevent CLU from re-purposing them and furhter, Quorra could help train Flynn's army?

Why not?

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He did. Flynn put up a resistance, but it failed.


 
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 2:37 PM
Another thing about that is he said he put up a resistance, then it failed and he couldn't get back to the portal. So he fought for less then 8 hours?

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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 4:17 PM
trekking95 Wrote:Another thing about that is he said he put up a resistance, then it failed and he couldn't get back to the portal. So he fought for less then 8 hours?

When you're a program faced with certain doom, and you are one of many scattered about, sometimes it's hard to organize and fight together as one. It could have taken a lot of time for him to get something organized, especially when CLU's army had been organized a long time before they started and executing the plan all over the place (Quorra herself stated that "they were killing ISOs in the streets", meaning everywhere downtown town, not just taking out the massive towers in which the ISOs resided). Again, it's hard to organize when you have small groups all over the place and no means of being able to speak with them.


 
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Wednesday, December, 21, 2011 7:30 PM
trekking95 Wrote:Another thing about that is he said he put up a resistance, then it failed and he couldn't get back to the portal. So he fought for less then 8 hours?

8 hours isn't very long (it just seems that way when you're at work). Also, we don't know when the betrayal scene happened. Some folks have said that as he and Tron are walking on-screen, they're discussing how Flynn is cutting it too close to get back to the portal before it closes. If that's the case, he may have only had an hour or two, or less, left. Not much time to organize a resistance and take down a traitor who'd probably been planning this attack for a while, eh? Even 8 hours wouldn't be much.

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Kaisergrendel
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Saturday, December, 31, 2011 10:38 PM
I'm pretty sure Flynn continued to fight CLU even after the portal closed, even though not explicitly stated. I think he said as much with during his meeting with Sam.


 
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on Sunday, January, 01, 2012 7:08 PM
I got the same impression. I figured Clu turned on Flynn and Tron (as shown in the movie), gate closed, and then there was resistance from Flynn for some extended time but Flynn noticed that Clu was getting strong based on this conflict and at some point he went into hiding.

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DV8ER
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Sunday, January, 01, 2012 7:25 PM
DrP Wrote:I got the same impression. I figured Clu turned on Flynn and Tron (as shown in the movie), gate closed, and then there was resistance from Flynn for some extended time but Flynn noticed that Clu was getting strong based on this conflict and at some point he went into hiding.
I suppose those are good points, it is mentioned in the movie, just not in great detail. I guess coming from a programmer's point of view, it seems it wouldn't be hard to generate a huge army of programs that all are resistent to Clu, how does he get stronger if he cannot re-purpose a program?

Also, why couldn't Flynn just create a huge shield around CLU and then have it slowly shrink in size crushing and derezzing him? Either way, he is bascially "GOD" there so it seems to me he could have done SOMETHING in the 20 years he was there? Getting out on the other hand is obviously impossible.

Let's put it this way, a way I would have taken CLU down being in Kevin's shoes? I would have written a special kind-of virus desgned to target CLU specifically and have it destroy him. Not sure how that would make him stronger.

Either way it seems unreasonable that Flynn was trapped for 20 years, and while I completely get what you guys are saying, heck the movie said the very same thing, just some thoughts.

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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Monday, January, 02, 2012 10:05 AM
Kat Wrote:Also, we don't know when the betrayal scene happened. Some folks have said that as he and Tron are walking on-screen, they're discussing how Flynn is cutting it too close to get back to the portal before it closes. If that's the case, he may have only had an hour or two, or less, left.

Yes, I watched it with the sub-titles on. Flynn and Tron's quiet opening dialog is shown. Tron is commenting right at the start of the scene as cutting it close and needing to hurry. I'm assuming that C.L.U. had the portal guarded at the start of the coup



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WildWill
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Wednesday, January, 04, 2012 9:57 PM
Read the comic-book series Tron Betrayal - it pretty much explains what happened in between films.
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Kat
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Thursday, January, 05, 2012 7:06 AM
WildWill Wrote:Read the comic-book series Tron Betrayal - it pretty much explains what happened in between films.

Well, Betrayal pretty much ends with the Clu-coup, with only a couple frames to hint at what might happen. And there's been some debate here about whether Betrayal's considered canon anyway.

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DV8ER
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RE: A question about Leagcy

on Thursday, January, 05, 2012 1:01 PM
Yeah, I ready Betryal and agree with what Kat is saying, still doesn't really answer my question.

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