Agreed on all points. The fighting was a bit lame, and the EOL club fight was flaccid and messy, and totally half-baked. What makes it even more pathetic, although it isn't necessarily the filmmakers' fault, was that Quorra was marketed as at least adept at melee combat or as a femme fatale in the extreme (god I hate using that term).

For the next movie I think they should hire Yuen Wo Ping, the guy who choreographed the Matrix films and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, at least in an advisory role. Or Brad Allen, who did Scott Pilgrim vs The World, whose action was surprisingly fluid and punchy.

You say it doesn't have to be poetry in motion, I say it definitely wouldn't hurt.

Edit: Adding to the EOL fight undermining Quorra's ability to defend against CLU at the portal, don't forget she lasted all of 2 seconds (okay maybe 4) against Rinzler, and CLU pummeled Tron's ass pretty quick.

trekking95 Wrote:All I have to say is *sigh* The movie is the way the movie is so you have to be happy with it since its the only one there is! Just try looking by the faults and at the good parts!

Hey at least the music was good during the fight scene.......

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I kind of agree with the original post. While Quorra's arm getting chopped off and her nearly derezzing builds up some slight emotional connection with her and the audience, I feel that she really could have been developed more as a stronger female character had she not been (almost) killed at the club. The scene with her and Sam sitting on the Solar Sailer could have still been there, as well.

I guess you could say there's one important part to the whole "Quorra is almost dead" scenes, that being to stress to the audience that her survival as the last remaining ISO is extremely important.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online

Vaporware Wrote:At least we actually got a movie *and* it has a great soundtrack. To be honest, I still only partially understand what people didn't like about this film. Perhaps they were expecting the effects of Transformers, the Kung Fu of Matrix, and the plot of Apocalypse Now..? I haven't watched it a dozen times because I hated it. But I still think it's worth considering what parts of this movie seem to leave us feeling unsatisfied. People ding Kosinzki for style over substance, and particularly hit the plot. I had no issues with the plot, but I did feel like there were some things that didn't go over quite right. This fight was definitely one of them. Perhaps I was expecting Uma Thurman from Kill Bill Vol. 1? I don't think we needed to see some "phantom menace" style over-choreography, but this was a chance for us to see Quorra as something more than a cocky (and surprisingly naive) program. Afterwards, I didn't know what to think of her anymore. It wasn't until she was in the flying the Light Jet that i started thinking she was actually good at anything.

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I had to think about that. Okay, I put WAY too much thinking into stats and how a scene could play out, especially with novel-length fanfic.

I figure she's one of the glass cannon or fragile speedster tropes. Sure, she can dish it out, and it's difficult to get a hit on her, but she goes down hard if you do manage a solid hit. River Tam is along the same lines. Part of the problem on Quorra is that she might have learned to fight from competent, but not stellar, fighters. Flynn? No slouch with the disk, probably, but he resorted to User abilities more often than not. Anon? Very competent in his own right, probably on par with Tron circa the first movie...but still a rookie. My head-canon also adds a couple Iso scouts and Yori...again, competent but not utter badasses.

By comparison? Sam might be using a very subtle form of User powers when he's fighting - regeneration, ability to mimic other Programs' fighting techniques, subconsciously enhancing his speed and strength, etc. Head-canon also says he got in WAY too many fights as a kid, and that his maternal grandpa was career Army and taught a few tactics.

If you're inclined to do patchwork fics, I see Jet as not able to deal out as much damage with his hits, being the lowest dexterity of the "second Gen" crew, and not able to regenerate damage, but able to take a lot more damage, and having User abilities centered on assimilating foreign code and transmuting things like the patch orbs and virus-ridden subroutines into something that helps him.

J Wrote:I figure she's one of the glass cannon or fragile speedster tropes. Sure, she can dish it out, and it's difficult to get a hit on her, but she goes down hard if you do manage a solid hit. River Tam is along the same lines.

Except River Tam's never been defeated in hand to hand, whether one on one or against dozens of combatants. Quorra went down fighting her first two.

TRON.dll Wrote:I kind of agree with the original post. While Quorra's arm getting chopped off and her nearly derezzing builds up some slight emotional connection with her and the audience, I feel that she really could have been developed more as a stronger female character had she not been (almost) killed at the club. The scene with her and Sam sitting on the Solar Sailer could have still been there, as well. I guess you could say there's one important part to the whole "Quorra is almost dead" scenes, that being to stress to the audience that her survival as the last remaining ISO is extremely important.

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Kaisergrendel Wrote: trekking95 Wrote:All I have to say is *sigh* The movie is the way the movie is so you have to be happy with it since its the only one there is! Just try looking by the faults and at the good parts! I thought it went without saying, but I'm sure all of us are here because we liked the movie in general, but that doesn't mean we have to keep quiet about its faults, especially when there's constructive criticism to be made.

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We saw very few of the EOL patrons getting derezzed. Plus to do that to at least fifty people would take some time, then you'd have to many bits laying about on the floor that you wouldn't be able to walk around withouut slipping on them. In defense of the EOL staff, they did fight bravely-and first-to save the patrons from the BG.

Kaisergrendel Wrote:For the next movie I think they should hire Yuen Wo Ping, the guy who choreographed the Matrix films and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, at least in an advisory role. Or Brad Allen, who did Scott Pilgrim vs The World, whose action was surprisingly fluid and punchy.

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