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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Sunday, October, 30, 2011 11:12 PM
trekking95 Wrote:Well its a good job you did, but the map needs to be newer and more canon. |
Yeah I know. I don't think this map has anything to do with Evolution though. The date on it clearly means it was created before Evolution was in production. If us Tron fans haven't found an official map yet, I think it probably doesn't exist, no?
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Sunday, October, 30, 2011 11:13 PM
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Sunday, October, 30, 2011 11:33 PM
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Monday, October, 31, 2011 1:48 AM
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Monday, October, 31, 2011 6:50 AM
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Posts: 217 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Monday, October, 31, 2011 9:32 PM
Don't hold your breath Treking. The Tron Wiki states that "Tron: Betrayal" and "Tron: Evolution" have not been confirmed as "Cannon"
Betrayal has some significant departures, but Evolution is a bit easier to make a case for considering the use of proper voice actors.
Good job on distances Kaiser, but seeing those numbers, I'm not sure... Flynn was only 6.7 miles from Tron City hiding behind a commonly-available illusion wall, and visited regularly by Quorra and Clu couldn't find him for 20 Earth years of searching? That's under 40 square miles to hide in. Clu had a pretty good idea what direction to look in, considering the direction Quorra fled...
It raises more plot questions...
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Posts: 1,178 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Monday, October, 31, 2011 9:53 PM
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 1:30 AM
IluthraDanar Wrote:Tron Betrayal would have to be canon wouldn't it? It has Sam, and the whole Clu story, the big difference being Tron escapes at the end. |
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trekking95 User
Posts: 2,440 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 1:48 AM
Vaporware Wrote:Don't hold your breath Treking. The Tron Wiki states that "Tron: Betrayal" and "Tron: Evolution" have not been confirmed as "Cannon"
Betrayal has some significant departures, but Evolution is a bit easier to make a case for considering the use of proper voice actors.
Good job on distances Kaiser, but seeing those numbers, I'm not sure... Flynn was only 6.7 miles from Tron City hiding behind a commonly-available illusion wall, and visited regularly by Quorra and Clu couldn't find him for 20 Earth years of searching? That's under 40 square miles to hide in. Clu had a pretty good idea what direction to look in, considering the direction Quorra fled...
It raises more plot questions...
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 3:53 AM
trekking95 Wrote:I dont believe any wiki, as the people that made them might not know. Its just a private site, not Disney.
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Posts: 573 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 5:10 AM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:IluthraDanar Wrote:Tron Betrayal would have to be canon wouldn't it? It has Sam, and the whole Clu story, the big difference being Tron escapes at the end. |
Is that a deviation though? Or is what we saw in T:L just the last time Flynn saw him? |
Although I've never actually played Evolution, I DO, however, personnally consider Betrayal to be 'cannon' because, despite the few 'alterations' I thought it was VERY CLOSE to the movie itself, with the same characters, settings, etc.
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Kaisergrendel User
Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 6:36 AM
EXODUS Wrote:Although I've never actually played Evolution, I DO, however, personnally consider Betrayal to be 'cannon' because, despite the few 'alterations' I thought it was VERY CLOSE to the movie itself, with the same characters, settings, etc.
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Can we make a quick list of deviations between Betrayal and T:L? I never noticed any inconsistencies. O.o
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 7:28 AM
Kaisergrendel Wrote:EXODUS Wrote:Although I've never actually played Evolution, I DO, however, personnally consider Betrayal to be 'cannon' because, despite the few 'alterations' I thought it was VERY CLOSE to the movie itself, with the same characters, settings, etc.
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Can we make a quick list of deviations between Betrayal and T:L? I never noticed any inconsistencies. O.o
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 10:06 AM
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Posts: 443 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 2:50 PM
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 6:02 PM
ChessMess Wrote:What difference does the size of the world make if you don't know the units of speed that things within said world travel?
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Posts: 274 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 7:29 PM
Even though aI am the guy who started the thread, maybe we should admit that the grid world map is not anything definitive. The only map we really have and which was the source for the color one was the map on the wall of Flynn's lab. The original may not be a geographic representation of the Tron Universe at all. It didn't occur to me that it even might be until someone said so. It could have been an old and primitive schematic of some sort. Let's admit that there are no definitively readable notes on that wall map that we can extrapolate much, if anything, from.
The other problem is that the Tron universe-and I do not need a book to tell me this-is just WAY, WAY bigger than what either of those maps say it is. You could clearly see the edges of it, The Void, if you will, rather easily in the movie if it were there, but instead it's just all just outlands. You can take one look at it in the movie and see that, though how big it actually is....how wide, how wide across Tron City is and how far out Flynn's safehouse is from downtown.....all remain unanswered. I'm proposing that the maps, which do not jive with the movie much, let alone each other, may not be a valid source to consider for that info. I do know this: That the EOL club is at the top oif a mile high tower and the solar sailer was going to cover the 60 miles from TC to the Portal.
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Posts: 2,440 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 7:38 PM
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Posts: 298 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 9:09 PM
Moses613 Wrote:Even though aI am the guy who started the thread, maybe we should admit that the grid world map is not anything definitive. The only map we really have and which was the source for the color one was the map on the wall of Flynn's lab. The original may not be a geographic representation of the Tron Universe at all. It didn't occur to me that it even might be until someone said so. It could have been an old and primitive schematic of some sort. Let's admit that there are no definitively readable notes on that wall map that we can extrapolate much, if anything, from.
The other problem is that the Tron universe-and I do not need a book to tell me this-is just WAY, WAY bigger than what either of those maps say it is. You could clearly see the edges of it, The Void, if you will, rather easily in the movie if it were there, but instead it's just all just outlands. You can take one look at it in the movie and see that, though how big it actually is....how wide, how wide across Tron City is and how far out Flynn's safehouse is from downtown.....all remain unanswered. I'm proposing that the maps, which do not jive with the movie much, let alone each other, may not be a valid source to consider for that info. I do know this: That the EOL club is at the top oif a mile high tower and the solar sailer was going to cover the 60 miles from TC to the Portal. |
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Kat User
Posts: 2,394 | RE: Okay, we CAN now figure out the general size and dimensions of the Grid! on Tuesday, November, 01, 2011 9:32 PM
Made a new thread for film/Betrayal comparisons since that makes more sense:
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