hah ha.

One friend saw Transformers 3 and said it was great. He also failed to catch any of the geographic stupidity of Transformers 2.

Another guy, whom I respect much more said it was absolute crap.

Michael Bay doesn't get to talk about anything. He recycled alot of DotM footage from past movies he made. The highway chase scene was a slightly tweaked edit of a car chase scene from Bay's 2004 film "The Island".

Old thread, but no need to start a new one to share one idea, I guess.

I like using the idea of Dillinger Jr. being (somewhat) played. That way the Easter Egg from the blu-ray could play in, but CM fans who want him to be a good guy can be happy with his discovery/redemption.

The real reason I want something like that is because he's calling a master control username "Dad" and that just doesn't seem like what Dillinger Sr. would call himself (so I want the MCP to be deceiving Jr.). He realized in the end that he was being played for a chump by the MCP - he wasn't in charge, he wasn't even a partner, he was a tool to be used. He seemed alarmed/frightened at the MCP wanting to take over the world. I don't see him wanting to recreate it. Well, unless he's changed and sort of ret-conned the past in his own head to say that he had things well in hand. Or somehow ended up digitized and merged with the MCP (but that's a whole 'nother can of worms since there'd have to be another laser).

In any event, I can't really buy Dillinger Jr. on Sam's side from the get-go. From the very little we saw of him, he did not embrace Flynn's vision for the company - the vision Sam is trying to make the company live up to now. Not to mention using that "disappeared with Kevin Flynn" to Kevin's best friend is just cold.

I don't really think they'd incorporate Dillinger Systems from "Flynn Lives" or deal with all the immediate fallout from Legacy, no matter how much I'd love that. Probably try to establish what they need for the new plot and move to the action quickly.

Tron needs to be awesome and central. Period, nothing more needs said. Even though he was a side character in the original, he was still central enough to have the whole freaking franchise named after him. Get back to that.

We'll have to disagree there. I think that's the point of the system being called the TRON system (so you can have the franchise without the character). Though that wasn't said in the movie, was it? I don't want Tron as the primary - I want Sam and Quorra as the primaries. Tron should be back, I agree, but not front as center. A secondary, just like the first movie. I'd like to see more of Alan and would rather like to see Lora and Roy (not too likely, I guess). I definitely do not want Ram back. I know they're programs, but if they can be brought back from death, there's no dramatic weight to those deaths.

I think they've done the "Not used to the world and it's funny" comedy bit a lot, so I think we could skip it in TR3N. Maybe a bonus feature clip on the DVD with this kind of thing?

I actually think that's way over-played in fic. I'd have more wonder and less slapstick humor and "cutesy" stuff with Quorra. I see way too much "she seems like a ditz because she doesn't understand the world' stuff. She should be no more humorous/incompetent in our world than Sam was in The Grid - both had stories and no practical experience in these other worlds. The reaction to Legacy that I'd love to see (and we definitely won't) is Alan being told what happened to Flynn, being told he's dead, etc. I'd love to see Alan's reaction to meeting Quorra, to the change in Sam, to understanding the Grid and what it was that excited Flynn all those years ago. I want to see Alan fix Tron's programming and make him alright again. I'd like to see the board's reaction to Sam's taking over and basically like if "The Next Day" was a movie. I'm interested in the serious end of things.

I don't want Flynn back - as I said, returns from the dead kill the emotional weight to me. Not to mention, if things can eventually be sorted out and Flynn is okay, then it's like the Grid spent thousand years under a brutal dictator and many programs were derezzed because Flynn was a afraid of re-integration, but it turns out he'd have been fine and no real sacrifice was needed to save them. And if things aren't sorted out and Flynn isn't okay, then he has to die again, and it's just a re-hash.

But what I would like to see is a sort of free for all type thing, with several different types of terrain, vehicles, and weapons, all available for use in the context of the grid games.

That would be visually interesting. I don't think it would be popular with some old-school fans (at least, not if the terrain was to Earth-y), but might appeal to a broader audience.

For me, personally, I'd like to stay away from projectile weapons like guns - they just aren't nearly as fun/visually interested as the more choreographed hand-to-hand or even disc battles.

If the grid was running without anyone running it, the you could have the free-for-all, going-for-power type thing since a void would be created with Clu's absence. Certainly Zuse had time to escape, and he could be a player there. Unfortunately, that can't work with Users in the picture. Whether it could work at all depends on the autonomy of the programs and how much ability they have to do certain things that aren't their functions. Clu, the MCP, they were rare in their level of power over other programs.
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