LWSrocks2 Wrote: IluthraDanar Wrote:I just don't get the angst about this. Is there a thread limit? Can older very dead threads be deleted? You know, like something past a certain age that hasn't had a post in say 3 months? I'll explain the angst about this. Every time you or someone else makes a post that is either a question that's been answered or a topic that's been discussed already in a previous thread, or when you make a thread for a question that literally has an answer in the title, (I.E., what was flynn meaning to do when he said he meant to do this?) or whatever... that automatically bumps down every thread that had a thought-provoking, ORIGINAL question or at least had something NEW to contribute to the board. That may seem like no big deal, because it only knocks said threads down a notch, but when you have MULTIPLE threads for the same topic and MULTIPLE threads for different questions that could be organized neatly into the same thread, that bumps the good ones down ALOT. It doesn't happen so much anymore, but it happens and it is still a problem.

So you don't like people "wasting" forum space with their already answered questions. But.....here you are defending the OP whi is wasting forum space by going off-topic and complaining about common issues with forums...lol. Just saying, don't support a hypocrite or contradictory person. It does nothing for your argument.

Anyways...

Frankly, what you want cannot be achieved. Seemingly un-important topics to you, are important to someone else. What you really want is for the admins to delete topics that don't match your personal tastes as to appropriate content. That would make you the Tron-Sector equivalent of Tipper Gore and her parental advisory labels.

Tell you what, you see a topic that you know for sure has been covered. Feel free to find the original topic amidst the possibly thousands of topics and present the link for it and the new topic to an admin and then show how they are the same thing. Then the admin can decide for themselves after you've done all that work.

Does this sound kind of ridiculous?
This is what you want the moderators to do, and they would have to do it with every single thread without fail, just to make sure you don't get exposed to a question more than once.

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wow didn't realize ppl get so pissy at the OP if they don't post ASAP. I may be on the computer alot but that doesn't mean I need to be on this site all day every day. I have other things to do so sorry if me not replying within what you all consider a "Timely manner" offended anyone. and yes i realize some of the questions in the first post werent actual questions..they were just examples of questions....geez.

I am not annoyed by the questions and I don't sit here feverishly hititng refresh all day long just so I can read every new post. People need to quit taking everything so damn seriously, this site is about a MOVIE, not some religious or foreign policy forum.

user897returns Wrote:There are factors that need to be looked at about the redundant questions, though. Remember that a noob is coming into this thing blind until he/she gets used to the joint. They will see that the "Search" function does not work, so they manually look at topics started by others. Well, for a few pages or so before giving up and deciding to just start a new thread.

Most n00bs don't seem to search. When I first got here, i arrived because I had specific questions. Searching back a few pages found threads with answers to every single one. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. And I only went back two or three pages.

But as I've said, I've seen n00bs post threads about subjects that have other threads still on the same front page, sometimes only a few threads down. That is simply laziness. That means they came here, posted their thread, and didn't bother to read ANY part of the board first. That would be like walking into a business with clearly-posted signage, and asking the people at the front desk what the business was, what they do, and what their hours are. Two seconds of doing your own research would answer your questions. Nobody is asking that a person read back through months' worth of posts, but two or three pages really isn't too much to ask.

It is considered general etiquette on just about every forum I've ever been on to attempt to answer your own question before you ask, and people get pretty annoyed when you don't. Again, I don't expect someone to go way back. But make SOME effort.

And, again, every time X subject comes up, everyone has to discuss it AGAIN. And make the same points AGAIN (or sometimes different ones; I've remembered threads in which after all the debate, we decide one thing...on a later thread, it goes another way). I've found myself writing a lot of "as I said the last time we discussed this..."

laphtiya Wrote:Look at it this way, I have asked about 20 instructers in Iaido the same question on the same kata, each has given me prity much the same answer but have given it in a different way with different levels of understanding. Basically every instructor has given me their understanding of something with what they consider the key point in the Kata and I have been able to pull all these answers together to form "the big picture" !

But you are asking DIFFERENT instructors. If you were asking the same one over and over again, don't you think they'd get a bit annoyed? What if ten people asked them the same question over and over again? What if the answer was posted on the wall just over there in a pretty visible manner?

Threads won't get lost if, as I said, they're stickied. My thought was one stickied post, with a link to the "official" thread about each subject. Then you don't have 20 stickies, but if a thread falls off the board, you can still access it through that link. But I was not going to waste my time making threads if they weren't going to get stickied and were just going to get lost themselves.

I still have the list of threads and subjects I made back when I first offered, and I am still willing to update it and create these threads IF I am certain the mods would be willing to make a sticky for them.

Grid-Dweller Wrote: Kat Wrote: user897returns Wrote:There are factors that need to be looked at about the redundant questions, though. Remember that a noob is coming into this thing blind until he/she gets used to the joint. They will see that the "Search" function does not work, so they manually look at topics started by others. Well, for a few pages or so before giving up and deciding to just start a new thread. Most n00bs don't seem to search. When I first got here, i arrived because I had specific questions. Searching back a few pages found threads with answers to every single one. To be fair, the search function appears to be.... malfunctioned.

For the 50-billionth time.... I did NOT say to use the search function. I said to LOOK at the page and see if a thread on it answers your question. Hit the little arrow at the bottom and go to page 2. Does a thread there answer your question? It is NOT hard to do.

One thing I do find is that someone may start off with a query and then things digress within that thread. So if you ask a question that has been discussed, how do you know WHICH thread it was discussed in? Understand what I'm saying? It's not all that crystal clear all the time.

Byteman Wrote: LWSrocks2 Wrote: IluthraDanar Wrote:I just don't get the angst about this. Is there a thread limit? Can older very dead threads be deleted? You know, like something past a certain age that hasn't had a post in say 3 months? I'll explain the angst about this. Every time you or someone else makes a post that is either a question that's been answered or a topic that's been discussed already in a previous thread, or when you make a thread for a question that literally has an answer in the title, (I.E., what was flynn meaning to do when he said he meant to do this?) or whatever... that automatically bumps down every thread that had a thought-provoking, ORIGINAL question or at least had something NEW to contribute to the board. That may seem like no big deal, because it only knocks said threads down a notch, but when you have MULTIPLE threads for the same topic and MULTIPLE threads for different questions that could be organized neatly into the same thread, that bumps the good ones down ALOT. It doesn't happen so much anymore, but it happens and it is still a problem. So you don't like people "wasting" forum space with their already answered questions. But.....here you are defending the OP whi is wasting forum space by going off-topic and complaining about common issues with forums...lol. Just saying, don't support a hypocrite or contradictory person. It does nothing for your argument. Anyways... Frankly, what you want cannot be achieved. Seemingly un-important topics to you, are important to someone else. What you really want is for the admins to delete topics that don't match your personal tastes as to appropriate content. That would make you the Tron-Sector equivalent of Tipper Gore and her parental advisory labels. Tell you what, you see a topic that you know for sure has been covered. Feel free to find the original topic amidst the possibly thousands of topics and present the link for it and the new topic to an admin and then show how they are the same thing. Then the admin can decide for themselves after you've done all that work. Does this sound kind of ridiculous? This is what you want the moderators to do, and they would have to do it with every single thread without fail, just to make sure you don't get exposed to a question more than once. How about this, instead of changing the roads to rubber, cause you like your cement wheels. You just avoid topics you know will have content and questions you've already been exposed to.

Actually, this thread presents a unique question that's never been asked before and is obviously generating a decent amount of debate, and therefore it wouldn't be a 'waste' of forum space. And let me be clear- I'm not asking for admins and mods to crack down on the people who are posting redundant/repeated questions, I'm asking for members to...

1. Skim at least one or two pages to make sure the question hasn't been asked before- not a difficult task.

2. I've seen members who will post three threads at one time, each with a different question (I have evidence of this happening VERY recently, so don't think it doesn't happen, because it happens alot) so instead, have one thread where you post all of your questions.


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LWSrocks2 Wrote: IluthraDanar Wrote:One thing I do find is that someone may start off with a query and then things digress within that thread. So if you ask a question that has been discussed, how do you know WHICH thread it was discussed in? Understand what I'm saying? It's not all that crystal clear all the time. Umm... have you ever seen a discussion about programs' clothing NOT be titled "program's clothing"? Have you ever seen a thread about some question NOT have the title explain that question?

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LWSrocks2 Wrote:Wait, so you mean you've actually seen a thread where someone asks a question that never gets answered or discussed? I'm sorry, but I've noticed a trend in this thread of you talking about a situation that you're worried will happen, yet you speak of it as if it has happened to you... and I can name about 3 or 4 instances of this. Just for example... I was told to post all queries in one thread but after time, you lose sight of that thread with so many piled on top and as was said, the search function doesn't work.

Nevermind, you aren't getting what I'm saying. I have no more to say on the subject anyway. It doesn't bother me so I'm done.

LWSrocks2 Wrote:Wait, so you mean you've actually seen a thread where someone asks a question that never gets answered or discussed?

Plenty of times and not just here either.