cool83 Wrote:This thing died on the web very quickly....too quickly. By the way, I'm sure Sam ran to the nearest GAP to grab some clothes so she would fit in the real world.

The account that originally posted it got nuked because of posting things from the Legacy DVD/BD. Sam and Quorra are outside Flynn's right after they get back from the grid, and she's just in street clothes.

It'd be like Flynn leaving the Encom server in the first one, wearing a glowing unitard. It doesn't make sense. Each world has to operate on it's own rules and physics. Ours doesn't operate on lightcycles and generating vehicles from the energy of the person/program generating it.

Besides, that's a 5th gen lightcycle in the fan trailer, and those aren't persistent. They're baton generated. She couldn't have had one in a garage.

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cool83 Wrote: DocEss Wrote: cool83 Wrote:This thing died on the web very quickly....too quickly. By the way, I'm sure Sam ran to the nearest GAP to grab some clothes so she would fit in the real world. The account that originally posted it got nuked because of posting things from the Legacy DVD/BD. Sam and Quorra are outside Flynn's right after they get back from the grid, and she's just in street clothes. It'd be like Flynn leaving the Encom server in the first one, wearing a glowing unitard. It doesn't make sense. Each world has to operate on it's own rules and physics. Ours doesn't operate on lightcycles and generating vehicles from the energy of the person/program generating it. Besides, that's a 5th gen lightcycle in the fan trailer, and those aren't persistent. They're baton generated. She couldn't have had one in a garage. All in all, it's a nice effects effort, but pushes into the ridiculous and implausible, and stuff that would make audiences groan. So far all a see is excitement not groaning. The shiva laser provides the necessary elements to be carbon based, as Joe Kosinski stated. I'm excited and elated, as are most.

Yeah, but it wouldn't generate a lightcycle, and if it did, it would be inert. Lightcycles require the computer world to work correctly. In our world, it would be a giant hunk of plastic, and wouldn't DO anything, let alone cruise down the highway shooting out a light ribbon. Nor would a program appear AS a program, complete with glow-suit.

I'm not sure what you're excited about. It's just a fan trailer, it's not legit. Like I said, it's a nice effects show, but it's absurd, plot-wise.

They'd have caused about 50 or so traffic fatalities with that light cycle.

That said, I'm pretty sure a Tron 3 legit trailer would have some of the actual cast in it. Alan, Quorra, Sam, Dillinger. People that are all slated to be in Tron 3.

DocEss Wrote:Personally, I don't believe it's anything other than a fan-made trailer. That said, the design of Sark is neat, I like how his logo is in keeping with the way updated Tron looked. However, it completely blew my "absurdity meter" right off the scale the minute they were driving a lightcycle down the highway. That's just ridiculous. I could never take a Tron film seriously that did that. Couple that with the fact that "Sark" is wearing his program grid armor/outfit in the real world? Screams "fan trailer" all over. I would hope Kosinski/Disney would never, ever take such a route with Tron. I don't want to see lightcycles driving down highways, and disc battles in Central Park. That's just. . . silly.

There is no reason that something from the Grid, cannot work in the real world. You not preferring it artistically isn't a technically valid reason.

Fact is that both grids modeled the real world. Flynn's grid especially. So tech from there has a good chance of really working.

DocEss Wrote:Yeah, but if you notice, when Quorra showed up in the real world, she wasn't still in a glow-suit, was she? Sark in the real world would just be, well, Dillinger. That, and what shows it as bogus is the lightcycle on the highway. They'd have caused a few dozen traffic accidents leaving behind the light ribbon like that, and why would it even function like that in the real world? I don't doubt that there'll be some word of Tron's future at the SDCC, but it won't be this.

None of us saw Quorra show up in the real world, neither did you. We saw Quorra, an unspecified amount of time AFTER she was brought into the real world. She could have very well been in a glowing suit, or naked, or she could have shown up in whatever Flynn was wearing. All three would be good reasons for Sam to hit the local 24 hour retail store for an outfit.

Sark is a program, Quorra is an ISO. There could be a fundamental difference that keeps programs in their glowing suits and ISOs free to wear whatever in the real world. I think it would be utterly boring for programs to invade the real world in real world clothing. That would make the movie just another generic action flick with some quirky enemies.

LMAO, it's a fan made trailer for a science fiction/fantasy movie. I think you are going overboard with your traffic analysis. However, just to make sure I address it...they were riding late at night with no traffic around. So no worries...lol.

DocEss Wrote:The account that originally posted it got nuked because of posting things from the Legacy DVD/BD. Sam and Quorra are outside Flynn's right after they get back from the grid, and she's just in street clothes. It'd be like Flynn leaving the Encom server in the first one, wearing a glowing unitard. It doesn't make sense. Each world has to operate on it's own rules and physics. Ours doesn't operate on lightcycles and generating vehicles from the energy of the person/program generating it. Besides, that's a 5th gen lightcycle in the fan trailer, and those aren't persistent. They're baton generated. She couldn't have had one in a garage. All in all, it's a nice effects effort, but pushes into the ridiculous and implausible, and stuff that would make audiences groan.

Again, there was plenty of unspecified time for her to acquire real world clothes.

There are actually TONS of evidence that the grids operate on real world physics. You are just confused due to the EXTREMELY advanced state of their technology making it seem like the grids operate on some kind of different rules.

We never actually see anyone get off a 5th gen lightcycle willingly. They are always wrecked off of it, or disc hit, or whatever else. There is a chance that someone could generate a 5th gen and get off it willingly, and have it stay persistent. As for the laser-built cycle in the real world, it could have easily been redesigned from a temporary to a persistent object.

I think the only people groaning are a few here or there, and of course yourself.
Were I you, I would contemplate on how stupid and boring a program invasion of the real world would be if they had to do it in real clothes with guns and whatever else. It would just be a cheesy action flick at that point.

DocEss Wrote:Yeah, but it wouldn't generate a lightcycle, and if it did, it would be inert. Lightcycles require the computer world to work correctly. In our world, it would be a giant hunk of plastic, and wouldn't DO anything, let alone cruise down the highway shooting out a light ribbon. Nor would a program appear AS a program, complete with glow-suit. I'm not sure what you're excited about. It's just a fan trailer, it's not legit. Like I said, it's a nice effects show, but it's absurd, plot-wise. They'd have caused about 50 or so traffic fatalities with that light cycle. That said, I'm pretty sure a Tron 3 legit trailer would have some of the actual cast in it. Alan, Quorra, Sam, Dillinger. People that are all slated to be in Tron 3.

Why would a lightcycle need the computer world to function?
Just because you say so?
Tron world tech is THOUSANDS of years ahead of us. They could easily design anything to be persistent.

Why wouldn't a program appear in a lightsuit?
Just because you say so?
We've never seen an actual program come to the real world, only Quorra the ISO.

Yup, it is a fan-made trailer. But it's also in the direction that everyone involved in the movies themselves has been talking about. It's very exciting stuff, and a real look at what that might appear like.

Again, your traffic analysis is a bit silly. It's a FANTASY....lol.

Yup, a real trailer sure might have some actors from the movie. What's your point?

Flynn's lightcycle worked since Sam used it to go from the hideout back to the city.

Tron Fanatic Wrote:Didn't someone officially say that lightcycles get their energy from the grid itself, hence part of the reason why standard ones don't work in the wastelands? Where would a cycle get its energy in the real world?

Gas for $4 dollars a gallon silly! :P

^Nice to see you back.

I don't think that this was test footage, I'm following "Tron: Destiny" on twitter, it was by fans for fans. (But I really dig it.) The test footage shown at Comicon was of a higher production value even though it was only test footage.

The test footage had Jeff Bridges in it. :P It was meant to gauge interest in a potential sequel. This would be different. Now they *know* there's interest.

That said, in the ARG material, including Flynn's notes on his computer/webserver/whatever, he makes mention a few times about how the Grid doesn't operate on the same laws of physics as the real world.

The real world still operates on the laws of physics. What in the laws of physics would make a lightcycle emit a light ribbon? Energy doesn't work that way, nor does light.

In a lot of material related to the film, it's said that 5th-gens are not persistent, they're summoned by the energy of the program creating them. Same with one man light jets.

Kosinski's mention of the intersection between the two worlds, I think, is a bit more subtle than "lightcycle going down the highway".

The argument that it'd work in our world would be like saying CLU's carrier would work in our world, that it'd just appear and fly, despite not at all following the rules of aircraft for THIS world.

DocEss Wrote:Kosinski's mention of the intersection between the two worlds, I think, is a bit more subtle than "lightcycle going down the highway".

The connection has been there since the first film. It was one of Lisberger's intentions to make clear the similarities between the real and computer worlds (one example being the Encom cubicles and the computer world prisoner bins, or another being Dillenger's office and Sark's command deck).

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Wait, when did you come back?

Sgt. Rhodes Wrote: LWSrocks2 Wrote:I don't know, DW. Just think about how easy it would be to try and take credit for that project. Someone could easily set up a Twitter account to credit themselves with the creation of the trailer, trying to mislead people. Well, well, well The little boy is back. Fellow posters beware....this is kid is 11yr old and he has a foul mouth and likes to threaten other members when his tin foil hat misaligns. Still looking for Abraxas you crazy sob...

To answer your question, no.


Also, DocEss, you're right, there is no explanation for how a lightcycle could work in the real world. However, they wouldn't really have time to explain it in a 4 minute trailer. If (and it wont be) this is what the real movie will end up like, they'd find something that would make it possible for a lightcycle to run off-grid.

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