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Moses613
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Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 12:35 AM
As the subject line says........

I say this because, in part, we have no real word on how the "trailer" leaked out. Where did it come from? An accidental leak from a studio these days, with the digital nature of films, studio and computer security and the VERY harsh consequences compromising an unfinished picture makes such a thing unlikely even if studios continue with their stupid "accidental" leaks.

Tron is a techno movie heavy in special effects. I mean, any sequel would HAVE to be to be Tron at all, right? How come the best special effect they can come up with in the ND trailer is to make some of the footage a little grainy in some spots, a little "newsy", and all in a lame attempt to make up for an obvious lack of special effects.

? It also lacks the feel of a slick, succinctly paced multi million dollar major studio production. Completely. It's longer than any preview I've seen in a while for any movie. Internet Movie Database lists most movies that are in production but I couldn't find this one anywhere on that site. Um, why? Is Kosinski going to produce it? It has to have a producer if they're that far into it, so who is it? Has Kosinski said anything about working on the film? I haven't heard so. The preview has some titles that show at the end but no release date. They knew when they released the light cycle concept test when the release date of TL was going to be. How come not this time? Plus there is an awful lot that is seemingly explained in this thing. It's far from the tantalizing, nano-sized teasers we're lucky to see at all of movies in this stage of production, let alone a sequel to TL which is still red hot even now. And just where is Bridges? This guy is too big in Hollywood to make a move the rest of the industry doesn't know about so what's up?

Look, as I said, something just doesn't feel right here. Wanna know what I think? It could very well be total BS. When they shoot a movie, there is often enough footage shot to make up several different movies depending on how the studios/director/editors/producers want to have the flick they sunk millions into turn out. That's why they shoot multiple endings which you will never see. The dirty secret is that they shoot enough material to make at least four different stories of their choosing after the thing has finished principal shooting. When they made that suckfest otherwise known as Last Action Hero, for instance, there were rumored to almost be fistfights amongst it's makers as to which of the eight endings they shot and could have used was best for the flick. My uncle lived in Chicago and often watched major Hollywood movie makers spend days shooting sequences (some of them very expensive, such as car chases and so on) that never saw the light of day when the movie they were otherwise working on was released. Some of that material may have made for better movies if they used it, others probably sucked because they did.

A prime....and I mean PRIME example, is Annie Hall starring Woody Allen. This is American Film Institute's all time #1 best film. Or is it #2 after Goodfellas? I can't remember. Um, but you did know, I hope, that it was written, acted and shot as a murder mystery, right? Oh yes it was. Only the editor thought that version of the material he had in hand to work with sucked, so he changed it into a sort of charming romantic comedy. Enough material had been shot to make a complete movie that had nothing to do with how the intended release was written, shot or otherwise produced. This happens all.....the......time. Almost no one knows this and woody allen never gave the guy an ounce of credit or admitted it even happened. How do we know this didn't happen with TL and then someone cooked up a phony preview.

I postulate that most of this ND thing is a spoof made up from footage they intended to use in TL, maybe perusing one of the several plot lines in TL that were heavily alluded to but never examined, but instead landed on the cutting room floor, until someone managed to pick it up and edit what they found into a phony preview. There were so many things alluded to but never explained in TL (were Castor and Quorra once romantically involved?) that I sort of felt we were only seeing half of the movie we were intended to be watching. For example, it's not out of the question for a scene to have been shot for TL where Sam parachutes purposely into an Encom press conference, right? Not at all. In fact they probably did. I would not be surprised if someone picked that up and said "I need to do something with this." Plus let's face it, the ND preview is really so utterly LAME that I would never even bother seeing a TL sequel if it "manifested" in that way. It put me to sleep.

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IluthraDanar
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 12:41 AM
Has anyone ever come out to say this is a spoof? Has anyone said it was a bit of in between flotsam? The way Alan talked, it seemed to take place right after Sam came back. And if these are outtakes, does that mean the DVD set will have no outtakes? Missing scenes?


Guess I'm naive since I never doubted it was anything but a teaser of sorts.


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Moses613
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 12:44 AM
Thanks for the reply, I think I am going to call flotsam for the time being but who knows, maybe...............all our questions will be answered soon. (oh man that was good) where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online


 
Disc Warrior
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 1:08 AM
"Next Day" was a hybrid made up with an epilogue for the Flynn Lives RPG/Legacy and a teaser. I honestly think that this was an actual leak, this stuff happens. Why? Who knows but it does. It is a special feature, why would you need a high-tech light cycle and tanks chase scene when you have Legacy on the dvd? Also, imdb had no idea about the TR2N spot until after comic-con.order abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pillwhere to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online


 
ShadowDragon1
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 1:47 AM
Oh brother... .

"The Next Day" was leaked by someone that had accesss to a DVD or BluRay disc of Tron Legacy.
No one knows who leaked or from where it came from, but sometimes it happens.
It's not some big conspiracy.

"The Next Day" is a bonus clip meant as a epilogue to the FLYNN LIVES alternate reality game's storyline as it ties into the expanded backstory (pertainig to the "real world" events and situations that took place before the film and after Sam's journey in The Grid.

read about Flynn Lives here:

[ur]http://tron.wikibruce.com/Timeline[/url]
see the overview video about the ARG here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9G8Z4ewitQ
This was produced by 42 Entertainment in cooperation with Disney.
"The Next Day" concludes the Flynn Lives narrative for now and sort of teases about a possible "Tron 3". Nothing more. order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

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Disc Warrior
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 1:56 AM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Oh brother... .

"The Next Day" was leaked by someone that had accesss to a DVD or BluRay disc of Tron Legacy.
No one knows who leaked or from where it came from, but sometimes it happens.
It's not some big conspiracy.

"The Next Day" is a bonus clip meant as a epilogue to the FLYNN LIVES alternate reality game's storyline as it ties into the expanded backstory (pertainig to the "real world" events and situations that took place before the film and after Sam's journey in The Grid.

read about Flynn Lives here:

http://tron.wikibruce.com/Timeline

see the overview video about the ARG here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9G8Z4ewitQ
This was produced by 42 Entertainment in cooperation with Disney.
"The Next Day" concludes the Flynn Lives narrative for now and sort of teases about a possible "Tron 3". Nothing more.
Yeah, they were expanding on the mythology and story with HINTS of a Tron 3. Nothing more, nothing less.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill


 
Traahn
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 2:47 AM

"The Next Day" was leaked by someone that had accesss to a DVD or BluRay disc of Tron Legacy.
No one knows who leaked.

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Kat
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 6:36 AM
Well, we know Disney's MO with this franchise is to leak weird bits and pieces of stuff (hell, I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of the stuff they've put out and the major plot points that come out in all this obscure stuff a person is apparently supposed to chase down to get the full idea of what's actually going on--because a lot of what I've been hearing here is WAY different than just T:L would seem to imply). So I don't see why they wouldn't "leak" something.

I haven't seen the trailer yet, so I can't speak to the quality of it, of course. Personally I find it a bit hard to believe that they would truly go in the Captain Obvious direction of making Dillinjr the bad guy, but who knows; Disney can do cliches and Captain Obvious and it could be I'm just biased because I don't like the idea.

I thought this clip was supposed to appear on the features of the DVD anyway, though, right? Or am I thinking of a different trailer?

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CorrupTron
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 8:49 AM
Quorra: "Morning sickness? What's that?"


 
NickyTea
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 10:06 AM
DVDs and blu ray's routinely leak between two and five weeks prior to their release. Between the disks themselves needing to be struck at a factory to the distribution to home video retailers and rental houses, there are thousands of opportunities for one to slip out.

I'm surprised it took as long as it did.

The only thing making "The Next Day" difficult to conceive is the fact that so many charlatans are trying to label it as something it is NOT: a trailer for TRON 3. It is ONLY A SUPPLEMENT to Legacy. A short film for the purposes of a home video release. I summation and expansion/celebration of the monumental ARG that led up to the movie.

No more.


 
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 11:48 AM
I don't think there's anything odd about this. Other special features from the DVD had leaked before this one did, so it was really only a matter of time before this came along.

I also don't think this comes from deleted scenes that they just cobbled together for the heck of it. Even if it was a dropped subplot from Legacy, the scene between Alan and Roy clearly takes place after Sam gets back from the Grid, and I don't think Disney ever intended for this scene to be a part of Legacy's ending. It doesn't fit. I also seem to recall, when we were getting rumors about this (with the set pictures and stuff), that it was being said that this was filmed seperate from Legacy. Can't remember the exact words or article or anything, but someone else here might remember that better than me.

Like others have said, this featurette cannot be labled as a TRAILER for Tron 3. Honestly, this video is a lot of things: it's a mockumentary on the Flynn Lives ARG, it's an Easter Egg for fans of the original who finally get to see Ram's user, it's an epilogue of sorts to Legacy. And it wouldn't be stretching too far to say that it might be a bit of a prologue for Tron 3. I think it's totally possible that they intentionally set up events in this featurette that could, and hopefully will lead into Tron 3's plot (Alan and Roy reclaiming Encom, and that one suspicious statement about Dillinger Jr. staying on).

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overRIDE
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 12:31 PM
It's definitely not a trailer. Maybe a leaked special feature video or something.
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Traahn
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 12:59 PM
Aren't there 2 or 3 of these videos on the BluRay? Maybe the final one will be a true teaser trailer for TR<3N.


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IluthraDanar
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 1:45 PM
overRIDE Wrote:It's definitely not a trailer. Maybe a leaked special feature video or something.
It's awesome though. I love how Alan pretends like he doesn't know why Flynn gave them their nicknames.

In my world, Flynn would tell Alan and maybe only Alan, because of Tron. Sad it didn't happen that way.


Forget it, Mr High and Mighty Master Control. You aren't making me talk.


 
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 2:16 PM
IluthraDanar Wrote:In my world, Flynn would tell Alan and maybe only Alan, because of Tron. Sad it didn't happen that way.

I think that would be a cool subplot/twist in Tron 3: have Alan and Roy find out about what really happened to Flynn. I think it'd be cool for Alan to actually get to meet Tron, though I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are. But it'd be cool! on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill onlineorder abortion pill http://unclejohnsprojects.com/template/default.aspx?morning-after-pill-price where to buy abortion pillabortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 6:09 PM
PureSource Wrote:
IluthraDanar Wrote:In my world, Flynn would tell Alan and maybe only Alan, because of Tron. Sad it didn't happen that way.

I think that would be a cool subplot/twist in Tron 3: have Alan and Roy find out about what really happened to Flynn. I think it'd be cool for Alan to actually get to meet Tron, though I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are. But it'd be cool!
I think Kevin was waiting until the ISO reveal, when he had proof that he wasn't crazy to reveal the grid to the world. He would have told Alan first, it seemed like he was close to telling him and really Sam as well if CLU hadn't turned on him.


 
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Sunday, March, 20, 2011 9:46 PM
Disc Warrior Wrote:
PureSource Wrote:
IluthraDanar Wrote:In my world, Flynn would tell Alan and maybe only Alan, because of Tron. Sad it didn't happen that way.

I think that would be a cool subplot/twist in Tron 3: have Alan and Roy find out about what really happened to Flynn. I think it'd be cool for Alan to actually get to meet Tron, though I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are. But it'd be cool!
I think Kevin was waiting until the ISO reveal, when he had proof that he wasn't crazy to reveal the grid to the world. He would have told Alan first, it seemed like he was close to telling him and really Sam as well if CLU hadn't turned on him.

Older Sam picked up real quick on Clu. Once he revealed he wasn't Flynn, Sam recognizes him. But how did he guess he was bad? Didn't Flynn leave him with the idea Clu was an ally to help with the Grid?


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Disc Warrior
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Monday, March, 21, 2011 12:31 AM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Disc Warrior Wrote:
PureSource Wrote:
IluthraDanar Wrote:In my world, Flynn would tell Alan and maybe only Alan, because of Tron. Sad it didn't happen that way.

I think that would be a cool subplot/twist in Tron 3: have Alan and Roy find out about what really happened to Flynn. I think it'd be cool for Alan to actually get to meet Tron, though I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are. But it'd be cool!
I think Kevin was waiting until the ISO reveal, when he had proof that he wasn't crazy to reveal the grid to the world. He would have told Alan first, it seemed like he was close to telling him and really Sam as well if CLU hadn't turned on him.

Older Sam picked up real quick on Clu. Once he revealed he wasn't Flynn, Sam recognizes him. But how did he guess he was bad? Didn't Flynn leave him with the idea Clu was an ally to help with the Grid?
I meant like showing them the grid in person ha ha.


 
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RE: Something about The Next Day preview just doesn't smell right...

on Monday, March, 21, 2011 7:28 AM
IluthraDanar Wrote:
Disc Warrior Wrote:
PureSource Wrote:
IluthraDanar Wrote:In my world, Flynn would tell Alan and maybe only Alan, because of Tron. Sad it didn't happen that way.

I think that would be a cool subplot/twist in Tron 3: have Alan and Roy find out about what really happened to Flynn. I think it'd be cool for Alan to actually get to meet Tron, though I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are. But it'd be cool!
I think Kevin was waiting until the ISO reveal, when he had proof that he wasn't crazy to reveal the grid to the world. He would have told Alan first, it seemed like he was close to telling him and really Sam as well if CLU hadn't turned on him.

Older Sam picked up real quick on Clu. Once he revealed he wasn't Flynn, Sam recognizes him. But how did he guess he was bad? Didn't Flynn leave him with the idea Clu was an ally to help with the Grid?
I assume it was by the way Clu was acting. You got the impression he had something nasty up his sleeve...just the way he says "Not in the cards. Not for you." Hence why Sam says, "That's a hell of a way to treat your son." You can tell he's kind of thrown off--"dude, I don't remember my dad being an asshole." Plus perhaps he figured it out--"okay, obviously this dude is in charge and some sort of dictator, plus these Games are pretty nasty. If this dude is in charge, and I know that my dad is SUPPOSED to be in charge, some bad stuff must have happened." Because he doesn't seem to be all that surprised to find out his dad is exiled, either.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

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on Monday, March, 21, 2011 9:56 AM
To the OP of this thread, the Tron 'bonus' clip with Roy/RAM and the Flynn Lives movement is indeed real. After all, Boxleitner and the other actors played a part in it,therefore it does'nt appear fake or shot in a low budget model, however this is probably the exact effect they were trying to achieve as an illusion. I have every reason to think that this 'epilogue' bonus is something to lead towards the third film.

Kat, I'm quite sure Sam is intelligent enough to pick up what was going on in the Grid. In fact, I would say he adapted to the situation much faster than his father did and fortunately, he had some foreknowledge from his father's bed time tales. Once he realized what was going on, he thought "Okay, Dad was telling me the truth all those years. What he said in his books on technology were true". And from a hacker perspective, he thought outside the box.

Get it? In Disc Wars, Sam 'thought' and acted outside the Disc Wars grid box he was in . How many programs would have thought of cutting a hole, suckering one in through to deresolution and crawling out of the box to another? He was the first User to pull this trick off and face Trinzler.

Again, I really, really hope to God they bring Clu back and use him properly this time around. He's one of the greatest Tron characters and not only that, a real attitude to boot. I mean, imagine Steve Jobs getting digitized and Clu going in his face with his gravely voice:

"I don't like you. I was 1984, before YOUR 1984. I hope the disc won't be too heavy on your wrists when we duel"

"But..but we can give you an iPad for free!"

Clu scoffs. "In the Grid, we are what you dream of most and will never have. Besides, I already have one for the last twenty thousand cycles in my hands".


 
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