It's called "maturing."
He grew up. He saw the error of his younger mindset.
He evolved. Transcended.

None of that was obviously intended when the first film was made, but using that personae as a springboard for the dramatic journey of the second film was brilliant.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

Age does that to people. My dad was a real S.O.B. when he was young but he's really mellowed out with age.

CorrupTron Wrote:Age does that to people. My dad was a real S.O.B. when he was young but he's really mellowed out with age.

Agreed. I can relate, as i was much also much more wirey in my younger days and can easily see i have mellowed out dramatically in just a 10 year time. I am a different person almost, much like Flynn's character in some respects.

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He was much like Sam in the first film. Young, reckless, irresponsible. He matured after he became CEO of Encom and realized he had a responsibility, like Sam realizes at the end of Legacy. It's the arc of their characters.

And Kevin still maintained his sense of humor. Radical man!

Tron Fanatic Wrote:That's one thing that seemed off though was his sense of humor. When we met Kevin in the first TRON, he was in a pretty awful place, but he still just shrugged most of it off and smiled. He seemed to have quite a "life is a joke" attitude and didn't take much seriously. Even when it dawned on him that the games were lethal, he still had no problem kidding around with his opponent. I would've liked to see more of that cockiness present, or at least see it resurface once he stepped out of the hideout for the first time in who knows how long.

Hi Tron Fanatic. Yes, Kevin was rather serious this time around, but i thought he had a fairly good reason to be all things considered. Here he pretty much is in a situation where he is trapped inside The Grid, this wonderful creation he worked so hard on, to see it become a pale shadow of it's former self thanks to CLUs renegade activities. That is like watching something you made be slowly destroyed by someone once close to you. Not fun.. Add to that losing his 'real world' relationships, and exspecially missing his son...wow...i would probably lose my sense of humour too!

Can you just imagine what he must have gone through when it finally dawned on him he would probably never see his son again, let alone get to see him grow up? He seems like the kind of guy this would be a major issue with.

Perhaps one of the reasons he turned to meditation was to try to escape the sadness that was within him. By reflecting within, he was better able to come to terms with his situation maybe and 'get on with life'. I find it interesting and quite a contrast that the character evolved into that meditative direction. I think it's great ( i can relate) but it is still surprising to me.

Jeff's acting in some of the first scenes as Kevin seem to show that he has had a emotional coming-to-terms time in his past. I enjoyed that as it created sympathy for the character for me. I would have enjoyed seeing that part of his personal story told in a bit more detail during the flashbacks. I realize they wanted to move the story along and all, but even just a few clips of his personal suffering would have added a lot to some of the later scenes, exspecially for people who never saw the first film in my opinion.

But you are right - it would have been nice to see a little more of his ol' spark back....just a teeny bit more. I really like the older Kevin a lot....that mellow reflective vibe i can dig, but those few moments when his witty self shined through were some of the highlights of T:L for me.

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YES!!! Thank you Kat for reminding me about that!
That really was quite a moment, that flashback where CLU turns on Kevin and Tron defends him. In Kevin's mind, he surely thought Tron was derezzed right then and there before he runs off to go into hiding.

Oh man....( images dramatic emotional movie moment scene we never saw)....

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trench Wrote: Flynn1 Wrote:made me question if something really negative happened to Kevin that we were not told. I think the destruction of the ISOs qualifies, they were going to be his gift to the world...

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Flynn was speaking figuratively.

"Gift to the world"; as in due to the unique nature of their digital DNA, to show "the world" (the people of the real world) that the Isos are prof that a whole new humanoid species of intelligent life with their own free will can evolve even in a *digital medium*;
also the medical possiblities of their digital triple helix DNA (which repairs itself when damaged code is removed), their exsistance also brings on a new spiritual perspective on the emergance of intelligent life as well.

He wasn't saying that he was going to literally give Isos or an Iso to another like they're a slave.

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Great points touched on since i last posted....the ISOs 'purge'. Seriously, Kevin must have been a emotional MESS after that all went down. He surely had some issues to sort out within himself...and he had NO ONE to really consult with or console him ( except maybe Quorra...if she was even with him at that stage). Talk about rough.....( feels pity).

It is quite a tragety really...and i think the deeper level of that emotion went over a lot of viewers' heads in some respects. I came away with a lot after watching the film, and i still think about it a lot. It effected me on a deeper level then just on my 'Tron Fan' level. I would have enjoyed seeing a deeper exploration of Kevin's past and what he went through. As i said earlier, i think it would have made some scenes all the more impactful.

I am thinking this is where the meditative concepts come into play, and why the character turned in that direction. It was a way for him to deal with his trauma, and help him to better understand the deeper levels of it all from a spiritual standpoint. This is what i loved about Kevin in 'Legacy'....that attempt to find a deeper meaning to it all..even from another worlds' standpoint. If one sits and dwells deeper into some of the touched upon philosiphies the film takes on an even deeper meaning....particulary the last sequence we see Kevin ( merging with CLU). Sure he saves his son, but one could also look at it as Kevin finally coming to terms with his past mistakes ( CLU..etc.) and excepting them within after so much time. The visual representation of them merging into each other becomes a beautiful thing when seen in that way...and Kevin is able to 'move on' to another higher destination.

Yeah...maybe i am reading a lot more into this then intended, but it is great how different people can view the same film and come away with completey different ideas about it. This is why i love Forums...getting to talk about such things and reading what others' take on it is.

I would like to think Kevin is still around in some form...and again, this comes into play the 'Zen' aspects. There is a famous quote that says - " Energy can neither be destroyed nor created, it can only change form'. Even that aspect has meaning if one looks at it in both a scientific or a spiritual sense.

Egad i adore this movie.....i love films that make me THINK about stuff long after viewing.

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Absolute truth my friend...and it was there loss really. Of course, to be fair, perhaps a lot of them simply did not have the capability to 'read' more into the scenes and story points as others. Dunno.....but a long time ago i gave up taking anything film critics say as 'truth'. One should not let others decide what is 'good' and 'bad' for you....one should do that for themselves. The same applies for films. GO see it...even if the critcs say it is lousey. You might just find something there that appeals to you a lot that they missed!

I digress.......

You could film a whole other movie to go deeper into just some of the story points in 'Tron; Legacy'...or better yet, include more in-depth scenes ( like the Kevin flashbacks i mention above) and release a 'Extended Edition'. Yeah i know...just a fan dream....but l can seriously see this movie being expanded on. Just like other 'Extended Edition' films ( 'Avatar' comes to mind..) the added scenes are primarily character enhancements and explorations...and not all 'eye candy'. I would love to see some exploration into both Kevin and Sam's past. That would be interesting.

Getting back to the critcs, many stated they felt both of those characters lacked depth and needed more development. Yeah, maybe so in their minds if they were just looking at the film from 'the surface only' as you say. If they looked a little deeper...they would have found a LOT more.

I think a lot of filmgoers have become heavily jaded or immensely mentally dense these days due to all the FX heavy flicks and television-style story development. People expect to SEE everything laid out on the screen visually so they don't have to think about anything themselves. It is a shame...as a film like 'Tron : Legacy' is NOT that kind of film in my opinion. There is a lot of drama with the characters there, and a lot of emotions running too, but i think a lot of non-fans missed that. Not everyone of course...but a lot of them did i think. Again...there loss.

Getting back to Kevin, this is another aspect of why i love his character. In the first film, just about everyone who saw it loved him because he was the character we most related to. He was likable....and charming...and amusing. In the sequel, he is still of of those things, but now diminished somewhat in a respectful way. Sam shows up and basically kicks him into gear again, and gets him to finally 'wake up' and become a active entity again. That is a nice moment...after they get out of the elevator from the End of Line Club. Seeing Kevins' change was a nice suttle touch.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion