Maybe it's because Kevin specifically created CLU to be sort of his body double when he was away from the grid, whereas other programs all had some sort of specific function like security?

I'm not sure I buy Tron being a Codified Likeness Utility. If you break down what each word means?

Codified means arranging laws or rules into a systematic code.

Likeness means the semblance, guise, or outward appearance of.

Utility means something useful or designed by use.

Tron may meet 2 of 3 of those descriptions, but the first one? Tron was a security program, he wasn't really designed for arranging laws and such. CLU however, was where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

Since Clu's jacket and armor have a very military feel, I gave him a militial jacket style. (Also because the V shape of the vest mimics the patterns of his armor, so I could cheat and pull off both at once. Clu looks so dashing, fabulous attire. abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion

LWSrocks Wrote:GAH, ANNIMUS!? You annoy me so much, you know that? This post is COMPLETELY unrelated to what we're talking about, but of course... it has the key letters "C", "L", and "U" so you just think anything Clu related is going to be related? This topic, which if you had read any of it before posting, is more about the IDEA of what CLU is, not about his appearance, or about your fan-art which belongs in the "FAN FICTION AND ART" sector. I know I'm being extremely shouty and out of line, but this is only like the 6th time someone's had to call you out for this exact thing. Seriously, when will you learn how this site works?

At least he changed his signature image to something much smaller. I give him props for that.

Anyway, topic-starter, you answered your own question when you mentioned you read that Tron was a codified likeness utility in a FAN FIC. Those have no bearing on what the Tron movies really are about, so aside from entertainment value, you can disregard them as canon depictions of what you saw in the movies. In TL, there was nothing to suggest CLU was special due to his looking like Flynn. He was unique because he was the System Administrator and the only program Flynn created to run the Grid. As for previous Clu's, one can fathom a reasonable explanation. The Clu in 1982's "Tron" is a program Flynn wrote (before he was aware of this "other world") to specifically sneak into the Encom mainframe and find any hint of his stolen game data. Hints, as in "CLUES". Ideally, Flynn would have loved to recover all the files intact, but if he could get any smidgen of evidence that could be used against Dillinger, he would win. So Clu's name was a bit suggestive of his goal.

When Flynn created a new System Administrator for his Grid, he probably thought back to his "best program that's ever been written" and decided to make a homage using the same name. But the name had taken on a new meaning since at this point (1983), Flynn knew all too well what the world inside the computer was like. More than just a mere likeness, Flynn made CLU to have his same raw intelligence and personality. Not to mention Flynn actually finished making CLU inside the computer, something no one had ever done before.

Tron Fanatic Wrote:This also goes right back to exactly HOW Flynn got all the other Pros on his grid to NOT look like him, when on the old ENCOM server, it seemed like ALL Programs looked like their users.

Now that's a good theory, but personally, I liked it better when a program's appearance depended on their user, no matter what. If the codified likeness utility is Flynn's invention towards creating unique programs that don't look like him, then that would explain Shaddox. However, it's unclear as to why CLU was named for it directly. To that detail, I still say Flynn, when creating CLU, thought back to the original Clu from 1982 and made an acronym for his new program that fit with the letters of the old program's name as a sort of homage. In spite of it's name, perhaps there is more to the C.L.U. than just making a program look or not look just like its user.

I was fascinated by the fact that CLU was created so differently than the typical program. That scene in the film showing his "birth" reminded me of the computers in Star Trek 2009 and so on, where the screen and computer are one. Then he seems to walk out of that screen. Odd but for an amateur scientist, wow! I want to be able to do that! Flynn is like an effing genius.

Honestly, I think one of the major problems with this is the inconsistencies within the movies and the actual writers.

Now CLU is a true Codified Likeness Utility but that doesn't not explained why both Lora and Alan's programs looked exactly like them. Honestly, I just think that the writers maybe didn't think that far into the idea and when the canon Tron comics came out, in trying to explain CLU they made a few loopholes. Cause remember, Flynn's first CLU along with Tron and Yori look like their respected programmers. And this is without any knowledge of The Grid at all.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

I thought about this not long ago, actually, and the best thing I could come up with is that perhaps Clu (both versions) was created to be sort of a digital version of Flynn. In the original, for example, he's pretty much made so that Flynn can go where he wants to go, INSIDE the computer, since Flynn can't go there himself (he thinks), right? Hence, this means Clu is a hacking program (in another context for what Flynn wants to do, perhaps Clu would take a different form--say, a repair utility if some software is broken/corrupted that Flynn wants to fix, etc.). Clu2 is, again, supposed to be like an extension Flynn, doing a job in the computer world that Flynn can't (always) do himself.

So IOW, it had occurred to me that the original Clu's purpose probably wasn't really as a hacking program, hence why the name doesn't seem to jive. His purpose is to act as Flynn's proxy/avatar in the Grid, whatever those duties may entail at the time; we only saw two specific roles he played, but it may be possible for him to assume others depending on what Flynn needs at the time.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pillabortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion

Kat Wrote:I thought about this not long ago, actually, and the best thing I could come up with is that perhaps Clu (both versions) was created to be sort of a digital version of Flynn. In the original, for example, he's pretty much made so that Flynn can go where he wants to go, INSIDE the computer, since Flynn can't go there himself (he thinks), right? Hence, this means Clu is a hacking program (in another context for what Flynn wants to do, perhaps Clu would take a different form--say, a repair utility if some software is broken/corrupted that Flynn wants to fix, etc.). Clu2 is, again, supposed to be like an extension Flynn, doing a job in the computer world that Flynn can't (always) do himself.

But Flynn doesn't know such a world exists yet when he writes the original CLU. While he fantasized about the possibilities, he had no idea, so for him, writing a program wouldn't be any different than it would be for anyone. He's still just punching keys to make things happen. I also never even had a thought that he could have created the same CLU in Legacy, unless he was physically on the Grid. I kinda got the feeling that CLU 2.0 was much more of an exact copy.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

Tron Fanatic Wrote: Kat Wrote:I thought about this not long ago, actually, and the best thing I could come up with is that perhaps Clu (both versions) was created to be sort of a digital version of Flynn. In the original, for example, he's pretty much made so that Flynn can go where he wants to go, INSIDE the computer, since Flynn can't go there himself (he thinks), right? Hence, this means Clu is a hacking program (in another context for what Flynn wants to do, perhaps Clu would take a different form--say, a repair utility if some software is broken/corrupted that Flynn wants to fix, etc.). Clu2 is, again, supposed to be like an extension Flynn, doing a job in the computer world that Flynn can't (always) do himself. But Flynn doesn't know such a world exists yet when he writes the original CLU. While he fantasized about the possibilities, he had no idea, so for him, writing a program wouldn't be any different than it would be for anyone. He's still just punching keys to make things happen. I also never even had a thought that he could have created the same CLU in Legacy, unless he was physically on the Grid. I kinda got the feeling that CLU 2.0 was much more of an exact copy.

Sorry, bad choice of words. I don't mean he knew there was a computer world one could go into. What I meant was, he DOESN'T know a user can go into the computer world, nor that it consists of anything except electrical impulses. Hence, he can't go snooping around like he would through a file room or office, going through drawers and paperwork himself. So he needs a program that can do the digital equivalent, going through files and code. Hence, Clu.

LWSrocks Wrote: elleldee Wrote: typicaltronname Wrote: Tron Fanatic Wrote:This also goes right back to exactly HOW Flynn got all the other Pros on his grid to NOT look like him, when on the old ENCOM server, it seemed like ALL Programs looked like their users. In Tron: Betrayal, it says "His finest creation, the Master Control Program, rebelled and tried to destroy him" Which is a HUGE contradiction to what Dillinger says when he says "Wait a minute, I wrote you!" If you want to take what the MCP says next seriously, I guess you could justify this huge error by the writers. He says "No one user wrote me" -EDIT- Just noticed that Everything above this has NOTHING to do with the topic I guess what I was trying to say is the MCP didn't look like Dillinger, nor did it look like Flynn. You don't see him for long, just a moment or two, but the guy in the control chair vaguely looks like Dillinger. The MCP (or, the big red cylinder that he now looks like? IDK...) doesn't but he's appropriated other programs functions, been growing and evolving, so I imagine that's why it looks so very different. But Dillinger is repeatedly cited as the original author, "I programmed you to want too much", "I wrote you!" Guy in the control chair? Do you mean Sark? Because that is also Dillinger's program, played by the exact same guy, so he doesn't just look vaguely like him. That + your saying "or, the big red cylinder that he now looks like?" ... well, I'm guessing you've never seen the original Tron, then? Anyways, the MCP doesn't look like his author because he's appropriated so many programs and so, apparently, the combination of all those programs that make him up leads him to look like that cylinder/cone shape.

No, in the original Tron, (which I not only have seen, I own), watch as the MCP derezzes, you see a chair spinning around inside the large red cylinder, that resembles Dumont's I/O Guardian chair in that there are holes for a face and hands, and the face inside that derezzes very quickly after the red cylinder derezzes, looks like Dilinger. To me, at very least.
The phrase "or, the big red cylinder that he now looks like?" was as in, I'm not sure whether others consider the control chair inside the cylinder or the large cylinder itself to be the program.