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Vortex.EXE
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Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:07 PM
Does anyone else have a hard time thinking of the new "recognizers" as recognizers?
I don't remember them being called recognizers in the movie (could be wrong, though).
I just look at it and can't bring myself to call it a recognizer. This is nothing to downplay its design or anything, I just look at its design and function and don't think of recognizer...

The first time I saw the movie, I played with the word that was said by the guards when examining the programs. It was either "Games" or "Rectify."
I began taking to calling them "Rectifiers." Of course, they're still called Recognizers everywhere else, online and even the toys...so, who am I to argue, right?

I was just wondering everyone else's take on it.


 
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:12 PM
There's one big hole in my understanding of the original TRON, actually. What exactly prey tell IS a recognizer? Is there an actual computer function equivalent to them? I always figured there was, but never quite figured it out, just assuming that they had something to do with file-management.

They're clearly more than a vehicle. Every other transport, combat or not, (Light Cycle, Tank, Solar Sailor, Carrier) has a name that sounds like that's its purpose. And then there are the Recos.

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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:13 PM
It's a Recognizer. Even has the same steering controls as the old system and has search lights. Only difference is this one has the elevator lift and the legs don't rotate inward (at least not from what we have seen). How would they "Rectify?" We haven't really seen how programs get "Rectified" except for the ones that were sent to the MCP in the old system.

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Vortex.EXE
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:18 PM
Well, A rectifier is an electrical device that converts alternating current (AC), which periodically reverses direction, to direct current (DC), which is in only one direction, a process known as rectification. In concept, this vehicle takes programs from their normal workings to be either thrown into the games or repurposed, thus effectively changing their direction.

And I loved that they had the stick..."Just like the old arcade grips."
My mindset is that it's an upgrade of a recognizer, if that makes sense. I know the light cycles got an upgrade and all, and are still light cycles. But again, it's just my mindset with the new recognizers.


 
Kat
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:36 PM
Vortex.EXE Wrote:Does anyone else have a hard time thinking of the new "recognizers" as recognizers?
I don't remember them being called recognizers in the movie (could be wrong, though).
I just look at it and can't bring myself to call it a recognizer. This is nothing to downplay its design or anything, I just look at its design and function and don't think of recognizer...

The first time I saw the movie, I played with the word that was said by the guards when examining the programs. It was either "Games" or "Rectify."
I began taking to calling them "Rectifiers." Of course, they're still called Recognizers everywhere else, online and even the toys...so, who am I to argue, right?

I was just wondering everyone else's take on it.
Dunno. In a story I'm working on, the "Rectifier" is the program that...wait for it...rectifies the other programs. Think of him as being like the doctor that does the lobotomy. Whether "Rectifier" has another meaning, I guess I should probably find out so I don't confuse people.


What do you want? I'm busy.


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CorrupTron
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:39 PM
There's just something so.... obscene about the term "Rectifier" and I'll leave that to your imaginations.


 
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 10:44 PM
LWSrocks Wrote:Recognizers are named recognizers because...

In TRON, they "recognized" programs whose functions could be useful to the MCP.

In TRON: LEGACY, they "recognized" stray programs to either be put on the game grid, or "rectified".

There is a Tron vehicle called the Rectifier, and it is Clu's massive ship he uses to corrupt/rectify/infect programs, for example Tron, who was put through the Rectifier to become Rinzler.

Not to be confused with his Throne Ship, which Clu sits in above the game grid to watch the matches.
You speak of Clu's Sark-ish Command Carrier, yes?


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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 11:13 PM
CorrupTron Wrote:There's just something so.... obscene about the term "Rectifier" and I'll leave that to your imaginations.

That already exists and it's called the Logic Probe.

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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Saturday, February, 12, 2011 11:56 PM
I received my Tron 20th Anniversary DVD yesterday and watched it for the first time in several years. It would seem that the stories of Tron and Tron: Legacy are very similar. In Legacy, CLU2 becomes the MCP. The two carriers were very similar. The other vehicles were upgraded as the new Grid is running on a modern server. With the exception of the Light Runner, every other vehicle came from the first film.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill


 
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on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 2:03 AM
LWSrocks Wrote:Except for Light Jet. How does this in any way relate to the topic, might I ask?

Having read through all the topics today, this must be said: AsI respect your desire for order here, but you need to ease off a bit. You're not the moderator, no one is breaking rules, and you've been being overly judgemental on the boards now for a few days. Leave the enforcing to those in charge.

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on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 2:15 AM
That particular thread wasn't spam. He wanted to talk about ideas for some stop motion shorts, that's all. You need to let things run their course - if his English bugs you and you think the post is worthless, then ignore it and move on. Don't leave him, and others reading the thread, with a sour taste in their mouth. We want people to feel welcome here.

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Kat
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on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:09 AM
tron58fury Wrote:I received my Tron 20th Anniversary DVD yesterday and watched it for the first time in several years. It would seem that the stories of Tron and Tron: Legacy are very similar. In Legacy, CLU2 becomes the MCP. The two carriers were very similar. The other vehicles were upgraded as the new Grid is running on a modern server. With the exception of the Light Runner, every other vehicle came from the first film.
Y'know, I gotta admit this rubbed me a bit the wrong way too (call me a big suspicious skeptic), but I'm not about to call "troll" just yet--could just be clueless. (If we had a feature to be able to look at all of a person's previous posts, it'd be easier to tell.) Besides, I figure such posts are quite as obvious to everyone else as they are to me, so I'm sure we're all aware that this is a person to keep an eye on.

What do you want? I'm busy.


Program, please!


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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 12:14 PM
Boba Fettuccini Wrote:
LWSrocks Wrote:Except for Light Jet. How does this in any way relate to the topic, might I ask?

Having read through all the topics today, this must be said: AsI respect your desire for order here, but you need to ease off a bit.

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on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 8:49 PM
;-) - only sometimes

CorrupTron Wrote:It's a Recognizer. Even has the same steering controls as the old system and has search lights. Only difference is this one has the elevator lift and the legs don't rotate inward (at least not from what we have seen). How would they "Rectify?" We haven't really seen how programs get "Rectified" except for the ones that were sent to the MCP in the old system.

A Recognizer is a sentinel of the system whose function is to "recognize" all activity within a system sort of like a gateway daemon.

I can't remember if it was in Tron:Betrayal or a flashback in Legacy, but we actually see rectifyer (sp?) when Clu 2.0 is created. If I remember correctly, we also see something similar come up from the ground just before the camera pans away during the flashback in Legacy when Tron gets rectified (this part could be all in my head, to be honest).

Along with more emphasis on the 'recognizer' as the name for the the vehicle, it seems that the programs within the recognizers in Legacy are used to "recognize" the suitable place for rogue programs. It's probably just 'after the fact' character/device development from the first Tron.

Speaking of gateway daemon, in the original, during the light cycle chase scene, Ram says, "Those demons are coming down". Maybe he meant daemons... very interesting.


PS - sorry my responses are so verbose. I've spent the last 5 hours writing graduate-level research analysis. It kinda bleeds it's way into my other writing.


 
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Sunday, February, 13, 2011 11:15 PM
Kat Wrote:
tron58fury Wrote:I received my Tron 20th Anniversary DVD yesterday and watched it for the first time in several years. It would seem that the stories of Tron and Tron: Legacy are very similar. In Legacy, CLU2 becomes the MCP. The two carriers were very similar. The other vehicles were upgraded as the new Grid is running on a modern server. With the exception of the Light Runner, every other vehicle came from the first film.
Y'know, I gotta admit this rubbed me a bit the wrong way too (call me a big suspicious skeptic), but I'm not about to call "troll" just yet--could just be clueless. (If we had a feature to be able to look at all of a person's previous posts, it'd be easier to tell.) Besides, I figure such posts are quite as obvious to everyone else as they are to me, so I'm sure we're all aware that this is a person to keep an eye on.
I'm not a troll. In fact, I'm not sure what "troll" means here. I was just comparing the vehicles from the old film and how they transitioned into the new film. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone or violate any forum rules.


 
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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Monday, February, 14, 2011 9:21 PM
LWSrocks Wrote:In Legacy, do you remember at the enc, they were on the solar sailer, and it docked in that big red ship that Clu and his army was in? Yeah. THAT'S the rectifier.
Yeah, you're totally killing my "that's a great descriptive term" Zen thing here, man. I'm gonna have to use it anyway I think, because I've wracked my brain and can't for the life of me think of a better "job title" for that particular character. He does the rectification (far more than the ship does, I'm sure)....what else would I call him?? At any rate, the story makes it pretty explicitly clear what is being referred to. And I find it plausible that the Rectifier (program) does his work in the Rectifier (ship).

What do you want? I'm busy.


Program, please!


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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Monday, February, 14, 2011 9:28 PM
I thought all the vehicles in Tron were game related. Flynn said he wished he hadn't created all those tank programs. Recognizers were part of Space Paranoids. Lightcyles, same thing. Game related.

Now in Legacy, as Rinzler is flying after Sam, Clu yells at him to take the shot, finish the game. Does that mean that it's still game related? Why would he say finish the game, in this context anyway? Doesn't seem like a game to me, when guys are trying to kill you.


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RE: Legacy "Rectifiers"

on Monday, February, 14, 2011 10:12 PM
In Legacy you can see some elements of the rectifying process. When Flynn, Sam and Quorra reach the carrier you see programs being unloaded from various containers, and walking into a wide hall filled with light. In another shot shortly after that you can see newly rectified programs come out of the large circular section on the side of the ship. Somewhere in between the process changes them.

So the Rectifier is both the name of the carrier, and the name of a major component of the carrier. It's not an individual program.

I know "recognizer" was a term used in early computing, and found this definition of another term that gives an idea what the meaning was:

antlr: "ANother Tool for Language Recognition, (formerly PCCTS) is a language tool that provides a framework for constructing recognizers, compilers, and translators from grammatical descriptions containing Java, C#, or C++ actions."

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