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terrychoichelsea
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i have some question about the movie

on Friday, January, 21, 2011 10:20 AM
Having seen the movie again today i find out something i can't understand. I hope someone can answer me.

1. Remember the fight in End of Line club, Quorra was down because her left arm derezzed. Then after that, Kevin get involved and save both Sam and Quorra but his disk is stolen in the process. When Quorra rebooted and regain conscious, her first sentence is "Clu had the disk".

My question is, why would she know this? This thing happened after she was down. She shouldn't have known that. Is this mean she still have conscious all the time even she was down? This maybe a special features of ISO. I'm sure every program will not function when they hang, but ISO still do. ^^

2. At the encounter of Clu-Kevin, when Clu heads to Kevin, the bridges to the portal suddenly break off. Why the bridges will suddenly break off? I wonder if the thing Quorra use to jump have an impact on this or not?abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
voltes5
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on Friday, January, 21, 2011 3:02 PM
terrychoichelsea Wrote:Having seen the movie again today i find out something i can't understand. I hope someone can answer me.

1. Remember the fight in End of Line club, Quorra was down because her left arm derezzed. Then after that, Kevin get involved and save both Sam and Quorra but his disk is stolen in the process. When Quorra rebooted and regain conscious, her first sentence is "Clu had the disk".

My question is, why would she know this? This thing happened after she was down. She shouldn't have known that. Is this mean she still have conscious all the time even she was down? This maybe a special features of ISO. I'm sure every program will not function when they hang, but ISO still do. ^^

Excellent question. Unfortunately, it's a mistake. There was no way Quorra would have known since she was "offline." But then again, how do we interpret Kevin's comment of "She's stable" when he checked Quorra's neck for a pulse? Perhaps, like you said, she might have been conscious for some reason.

Ah, I can create and find reasons for this, but unfortunately, it's still a mistake.

terrychoichelsea Wrote:2. At the encounter of Clu-Kevin, when Clu heads to Kevin, the bridges to the portal suddenly break off. Why the bridges will suddenly break off? I wonder if the thing Quorra use to jump have an impact on this or not?

I viewed it as CLU controlling the bridge to separate the "useless" Sam & Quorra from Kevin so that he could obtain the Disc. I don't think Quorra's light hook (not sure what it's called) caused the bridge to separate.

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on Friday, January, 21, 2011 3:19 PM
Iso's have strong intuitive senses, possibly a extra sensory perseption to a certain degree. If that is so, then that could be one explaination to how Quorra guessed that Clu has Flynn's disc.

**Or**

When she returned to normal functioning, she saw Flynn across from her and saw that Flynn's disc wasn't on his back and blurted out "Clu has the disc!" a good guess when seeing Flynn's disc wasn't on his back...

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on Friday, January, 21, 2011 6:31 PM
terrychoichelsea Wrote:2. At the encounter of Clu-Kevin, when Clu heads to Kevin, the bridges to the portal suddenly break off. Why the bridges will suddenly break off? I wonder if the thing Quorra use to jump have an impact on this or not?

I thought this was just a sign of the portal closing...once it starts to close, you can no longer get to it...doesn't Flynn say something like "the portal is closing!" right at that point, or am I mis-remembering?


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on Friday, January, 21, 2011 6:51 PM
Kat Wrote:
terrychoichelsea Wrote:2. At the encounter of Clu-Kevin, when Clu heads to Kevin, the bridges to the portal suddenly break off. Why the bridges will suddenly break off? I wonder if the thing Quorra use to jump have an impact on this or not?

I thought this was just a sign of the portal closing...once it starts to close, you can no longer get to it...doesn't Flynn say something like "the portal is closing!" right at that point, or am I mis-remembering?


I don't recall him saying anything other than, "he's my son" As for the bridge closing, i thought it was an obvious cue that the portal was closing in general otherwise why would clu jump over other than to obtain kevin's disc?

Sure i know this would open another q as such. Let's just say clu did obtain kevins disc & also got transported, what do you think might have happened to him & the others? order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill


 
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on Friday, January, 21, 2011 9:26 PM
Daft Tron Wrote:
Kat Wrote:
terrychoichelsea Wrote:2. At the encounter of Clu-Kevin, when Clu heads to Kevin, the bridges to the portal suddenly break off. Why the bridges will suddenly break off? I wonder if the thing Quorra use to jump have an impact on this or not?

I thought this was just a sign of the portal closing...once it starts to close, you can no longer get to it...doesn't Flynn say something like "the portal is closing!" right at that point, or am I mis-remembering?


I don't recall him saying anything other than, "he's my son" As for the bridge closing, i thought it was an obvious cue that the portal was closing in general otherwise why would clu jump over other than to obtain kevin's disc?

Sure i know this would open another q as such. Let's just say clu did obtain kevins disc & also got transported, what do you think might have happened to him & the others?

Honestly? Probably not much, lol. All Sam and Quorra have to do is punch him in the nose while Clu's standing there confused about the world he ended up in (let's face it--he's never gone through the portal before AND he's never seen the real world before, so there would probably be at least a moment in which he'd need to get his bearings). If they act fast enough they can clock him a good one and while he's out for the count, send him back. Sorry, Clu! (the real trouble probably would've been if he had succeeded in getting rid of the users and gotten his army through, but on his own I don't imagine he could do much in a world he knows nothing about against people who DO know it, police, etc. Anticlimactic, I know, but realistic.)


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terrychoichelsea
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on Friday, January, 21, 2011 11:33 PM
voltes5 Wrote:Excellent question. Unfortunately, it's a mistake. There was no way Quorra would have known since she was "offline." But then again, how do we interpret Kevin's comment of "She's stable" when he checked Quorra's neck for a pulse? Perhaps, like you said, she might have been conscious for some reason.

Ah, I can create and find reasons for this, but unfortunately, it's still a mistake.


I viewed it as CLU controlling the bridge to separate the "useless" Sam & Quorra from Kevin so that he could obtain the Disc. I don't think Quorra's light hook (not sure what it's called) caused the bridge to separate.
1. yeah, probably an error, but the "She's stable" word led me to believe her brain may still functioning, only her body cannot move because part of that had derezzed. It may be one of the special thing ISO got in their complicated structure.

of course it's just a guess, but i find it exciting on my brainstorming on this subject. ^^


2. well, i think the "portal close thing" is more accurate. If Clu can control the bridge, he don't need to jump.


 
Kat
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 7:15 AM
I'm still willing to go with "mistake" for the first question. Sam and his dad spend a lot of time talking about her as if she's not there, which would be sort of rude if she was still aware of everything that was going on...

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terrychoichelsea
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 11:34 AM
Kat Wrote:I'm still willing to go with "mistake" for the first question. Sam and his dad spend a lot of time talking about her as if she's not there, which would be sort of rude if she was still aware of everything that was going on...
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 12:00 PM
That'd be to glaring of a mistake for it to truly be a mistake, imo. Anyone who knew the script and flow of the film, including the actors, would have caught that.

That line had to be intended, otherwise they would've just made her say something like, "Whera am I? What happened?". A much simpler route.

I liked that they chose to make her say that line. Helps build some of the mystique of Quorra. I feel it was her sensing it, but the 'listening while out cold' theory could be, too. I'd prefer it was a gifted abilities to sense things instead, though. Just makes her more awesome.


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terrychoichelsea
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 12:21 PM
Traahn Wrote:That'd be to glaring of a mistake for it to truly be a mistake, imo. Anyone who knew the script and flow of the film, including the actors, would have caught that.

That line had to be intended, otherwise they would've just made her say something like, "Whera am I? What happened?". A much simpler route.

I liked that they chose to make her say that line. Helps build some of the mystique of Quorra. I feel it was her sensing it, but the 'listening while out cold' theory could be, too. I'd prefer it was a gifted abilities to sense things instead, though. Just makes her more awesome.
http://www.reelzchannel.com/movie-news/8682/director-joseph-kosinski-discusses-possible-tron-legacy-sequel

if you see this interview, you can feel this "mistake" can happen......

would love this to have special meaning though......


 
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 2:19 PM
terrychoichelsea Wrote:2. well, i think the "portal close thing" is more accurate. If Clu can control the bridge, he don't need to jump.

Good call. After seeing it 6 times, I did not even think of that. That does makes sense. All I kept thinking was that CLU's jump scene reminded me of Trinity's building jump from The Matrix. It was an exact shot-by-shot duplicate. I'm pretty sure Kosinski deliberately paid homage to that film with that jump.

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voltes5
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 2:24 PM

I took a screenshot off YouTube of that jump. Yup, it's exactly like CLU's jump.

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terrychoichelsea
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on Saturday, January, 22, 2011 11:53 PM
voltes5 Wrote:
terrychoichelsea Wrote:2. well, i think the "portal close thing" is more accurate. If Clu can control the bridge, he don't need to jump.

Good call. After seeing it 6 times, I did not even think of that. That does makes sense. All I kept thinking was that CLU's jump scene reminded me of Trinity's building jump from The Matrix. It was an exact shot-by-shot duplicate. I'm pretty sure Kosinski deliberately paid homage to that film with that jump.
not surprised. Indeed there is lots of similarity of The Matrix and Tron.


 
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on Sunday, January, 23, 2011 12:00 AM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote:Iso's have strong intuitive senses, possibly a extra sensory perseption to a certain degree. If that is so, then that could be one explaination to how Quorra guessed that Clu has Flynn's disc.

**Or**

When she returned to normal functioning, she saw Flynn across from her and saw that Flynn's disc wasn't on his back and blurted out "Clu has the disc!" a good guess when seeing Flynn's disc wasn't on his back...

Kinda like psychometry. Maybe because Flynn touched her disk in order to repair her, she gained a kind of psychic intuition of what happened.

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on Monday, January, 24, 2011 11:51 AM
Or maybe for the first question she can still take in her surroundings.


 
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on Monday, January, 24, 2011 11:08 PM
terrychoichelsea Wrote:Having seen the movie again today i find out something i can't understand. I hope someone can answer me.

1. Remember the fight in End of Line club, Quorra was down because her left arm derezzed. Then after that, Kevin get involved and save both Sam and Quorra but his disk is stolen in the process. When Quorra rebooted and regain conscious, her first sentence is "Clu had the disk".

My question is, why would she know this? This thing happened after she was down. She shouldn't have known that. Is this mean she still have conscious all the time even she was down? This maybe a special features of ISO. I'm sure every program will not function when they hang, but ISO still do. ^^

2. At the encounter of Clu-Kevin, when Clu heads to Kevin, the bridges to the portal suddenly break off. Why the bridges will suddenly break off? I wonder if the thing Quorra use to jump have an impact on this or not?

As to the first question, I think it's kind of along the lines of what Shadow said, that it's some type of ESP, or other "special power" that ISO's have. She is able to sense things other non-ISO programs can't.

For the second question, if you read the junior novelization, it talks about how the bridge to the portal retracts just before the portal closes. If I remember correctly, in the junior novel, Sam asks Kevin, "What's happening?", and Kevin replies, "The portal is closing!", or something to that effect. So, it wasn't CLU controlling it, it was just part of the portal closure process.




 
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on Sunday, January, 30, 2011 11:03 PM
And hey I have a question...

You know in the beginning of the movie when they were talking about Kevin Flynn disappearing? Was anything in this picture seen in that part?
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on Sunday, January, 30, 2011 11:35 PM
It probably was a mistake, but the simple "plot hole patch" that I applied to it was she didn't know. She knew she had messed up, woke up in a panic and just guessed that Flynn's disc was gone. I mean, it could easily have happened that his disc wasn't taken and she would have been wrong...she just guessed. I mean, she knows that Clu is after Flynn's disc and she wakes up after some major you-know-what just hit the fan and she knows she almost died, so it would be pretty easy for her to immediately jump to conclusions and assume that the worst has happened.
I can see that happening anyway. Like I said, probably a mistake like someone else, but a mistake that is easily patched for me.


 
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on Sunday, January, 30, 2011 11:48 PM
Disc Warrior Wrote:And hey I have a question...

You know in the beginning of the movie when they were talking about Kevin Flynn disappearing? Was anything in this picture seen in that part?
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I don't remember seeing that or the scene with Flynn talking to Alan in the limo.


 
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