Two questions about the first movie

1. What happened to Bit in the first movie? After Flynn crashes the Reco we never see Bit again. I'd like to know.

2. What was Alan going to say before Flynn interrupted him? I think we all know the part.

They're in the Arcade and they're discussing Alan's program, Tron, and Alan says "If those files were in-" Then Flynn interrupts him and says something along the lines of him forging them a Group-6 access.

And finally, a question from the Events Prior to Legacy.

Why did the Grid-Games still exist while Flynn wasn't in seclusion?

The Games were used by the MCP to punish programs, so while Kevin was on the Grid, before his seclusion, why did they exist still?

What programs were there to punish, when it seems that Flynn wrote them all? It seems like something, for lack of a better word, cruel thing to have going on. (i base this off the fact that there weren't any I/O towers in Legacy, showing that Flynn seems to have written every program, but the ISO's and he merely Updated Tron.)

I understand why they exist while CLU's reign of power, but I don't get why Flynn still allowed the games while he was control

It was shown that Bit got trapped inside the Recognizer driver's cabin. A clear force field descends, separating him from Flynn. The Bit is last seen zipping away inside, no doubt trying to find another way out.

As for the Game Grid and Arena being in Flynn's Grid, Tron Betrayal makes it clear that Flynn re-instituted the games to serve as a testing ground for new program functions. Specifically, it was used for testing new System Monitors. Hence Tron's involvement. Who better to judge the readiness of the Grid's protectors than the head of System Security himself?

After a while, (Clu's narration explains) the games grew in scope. Other programs came to watch the trials, and became amazed at the feats of Tron and his competitors. And as Tron observed, the games could be fun without being as deadly as they were in the old system he had come from.

Tron really loved the games. Clu noticed that. When Clu starts using the games to not only test, but eliminate weak or incompatible system monitors, Tron openly objects. He refuses to de-rezz anyone in the games. In fact, other programs start to get bored when Tron enters the arena. After all, he's going to win, yet never derezzes his opponents.

I found this to be a tragic irony while watching Tron Legacy. Tron, now Rinzler, has been forced by Clu into perpetually executing programs that the system didn't need. Tron had been forced to do the very thing he abhorred.abortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion

What was the significance of Flynn's dream of Tron? A sign of a weary soul? In what way? He had been Rinzler for many cycles.

Of course he didn't know he was Rinzler until Quorra got captured. Still doesn't answer my question though. What was the significance of the dream? What was it about? Did Flynn dream of him in black and white digital pixels like he did of him and Sam on the beach? So he dreamt of Tron and interprets it as a sign of a weary soul? So? Seems like pointless exposition. It's not important to the story in any way. Is Tron trying to commune with him to let him know he's alive somehow? How is it that Tron suddenly has total recall when he's in pursuit of the light jet and overrides his programming? Did Flynn use the Jedi mind hack on him?

CorrupTron Wrote:Of course he didn't know he was Rinzler until Quorra got captured. Still doesn't answer my question though. What was the significance of the dream? What was it about? Did Flynn dream of him in black and white digital pixels like he did of him and Sam on the beach? So he dreamt of Tron and interprets it as a sign of a weary soul? So? Seems like pointless exposition. It's not important to the story in any way. Is Tron trying to commune with him to let him know he's alive somehow? How is it that Tron suddenly has total recall when he's in pursuit of the light jet and overrides his programming? Did Flynn use the Jedi mind hack on him?

I think the film shows pretty obviously that Flynn's and Rinzler's eyes meet, and that's when Tron starts to remember. I mean, remember, in all this time he hasn't seen or heard from Flynn.

Although I could make an argument that it all sort of started in the disc arena...there are two ways to interpret the fact that as soon as Rinzler discovers Sam is a user, he stops trying to kill him. It could be that he thinks it would be of interest to Clu and needs to tell him, or it could be that somewhere deep down, he's still got that Tron sense of "wow" about users...

Though I admit the second scenario kind of goes against the part where they're about to do the lightcycle battle and Rinzler steps up to Sam and says something like "I've been waiting for this" in a menacing voice. (The question is, what's the backstory behind this? There has to be something behind him being so eager to waste Flynn's son--why? Propaganda from Clu about Flynn? There has to be a reason for that line, what is it?) But then, I dunno, I'd have to watch it again...Tron/Rinzler is supposed to be kickass at lightcycles, right, and you'd think it wouldn't be that hard for him to do Sam some damage; did he hold back deliberately (which might explain the line above)? I can't remember that well how it went down. That's probably not what happened, but it might make more sense for a series of little events culminating in a bigger "final straw" moment to change Tron, rather than it just being a sudden thing. Well, and I think it would've been really awesome if they'd met right face-to-face at some point, even just briefly looking at each other.

(Quick sideroad, but are we supposed to know before Flynn does that Rinzler is Tron? I mean, I've seen references that the suit is the same as Tron wears in at least one of the videogames so wouldn't there be a lot of fans of the games sitting in the audience saying, "Oh, TRON!" as soon as Rinzler makes an appearance? That has bugged me for a long time!)order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

typicaltronname Wrote:Two questions about the first movie 1. What happened to Bit in the first movie? After Flynn crashes the Reco we never see Bit again. I'd like to know.

There wasn't enough money left. Bit was supposed to follow Flynn around for the rest of the movie, but the budget wouldn't allow it. Sealing him off in the recognizer was their solution.

2. What was Alan going to say before Flynn interrupted him? I think we all know the part. They're in the Arcade and they're discussing Alan's program, Tron, and Alan says "If those files were in-" Then Flynn interrupts him and says something along the lines of him forging them a Group-6 access.

I remember him saying "Wait a minute, if those files were in there.." and Flynn immediately saying "Yeah, maybe if those files were in there then I could foge us a group 6 access!" He was completing his sentence for him.

typicaltronname Wrote: TRON.dll Wrote: typicaltronname Wrote:Two questions about the first movie 1. What happened to Bit in the first movie? After Flynn crashes the Reco we never see Bit again. I'd like to know. There wasn't enough money left. Bit was supposed to follow Flynn around for the rest of the movie, but the budget wouldn't allow it. Sealing him off in the recognizer was their solution. 2. What was Alan going to say before Flynn interrupted him? I think we all know the part. They're in the Arcade and they're discussing Alan's program, Tron, and Alan says "If those files were in-" Then Flynn interrupts him and says something along the lines of him forging them a Group-6 access. I remember him saying "Wait a minute, if those files were in there.." and Flynn immediately saying "Yeah, maybe if those files were in there then I could foge us a group 6 access!" He was completing his sentence for him. 1. I didn't know that the budget didn't allow them. Good to know. 2. I didn't think that he was finishing his sentence. Good to know. Thank again, everyone

I thought Flynn said, "Wait a minute, if I can get in there [i.e., Encom] then I could forge us a group 6 access," rather than "if those files are in there."

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TRON.dll Wrote: BigbadMCP Wrote: typicaltronname Wrote: TRON.dll Wrote: typicaltronname Wrote:Two questions about the first movie 1. What happened to Bit in the first movie? After Flynn crashes the Reco we never see Bit again. I'd like to know. There wasn't enough money left. Bit was supposed to follow Flynn around for the rest of the movie, but the budget wouldn't allow it. Sealing him off in the recognizer was their solution. 2. What was Alan going to say before Flynn interrupted him? I think we all know the part. They're in the Arcade and they're discussing Alan's program, Tron, and Alan says "If those files were in-" Then Flynn interrupts him and says something along the lines of him forging them a Group-6 access. I remember him saying "Wait a minute, if those files were in there.." and Flynn immediately saying "Yeah, maybe if those files were in there then I could foge us a group 6 access!" He was completing his sentence for him. 1. I didn't know that the budget didn't allow them. Good to know. 2. I didn't think that he was finishing his sentence. Good to know. Thank again, everyone I thought Flynn said, "Wait a minute, if I can get in there [i.e., Encom] then I could forge us a group 6 access," rather than "if those files are in there." Ah, you're right. My bad.

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