So... I've been wondering if the reviews were heavily colored by
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If so, I can kind of understand. I wanted to see more of them but I was left feeling very helpless because of the events in the movie. Not a very nice feeling to have.

And if someone comes in this thread to accuse me of spoiling, I will cry like a little girl or something. (Still annoyed that I got yelled at in the other thread.)


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It's the "pro" reviewers that don't know what they're talking about. Besides, if they were professional critics, they also need to exercise professional journalism and DO their homework by following the ARG, comics and other supplemental concepts that supported T: L, this way their views will be more balanced.

However, the sequel did have some editing/pacing flaws, albeit I think they had good intentions. I believe it suffered from multi-writer syndrome. SIX writers got involved in the process and I think they should not let Kitsis and Horowitz touch Tron 3 but bring in a more prominent name well grounded in science fiction to get it right. I could be wrong because I know they did LOST and I've never seen the series. I think the problem might be their style of writing on LOST is what compelled Disney to hire them initially.

If only Harlan Ellison was younger, he would've been a great screenwriter for it. Otherwise, they will need to streamline the writing team and cut it down to no more than 3. Lord of the Rings had, I believe, TWO screenwriters and look how beautiful of a job they did despite the difficulty in leaving out the original material from the novel. That is NOT an easy thing to pull off.


And don't worry, FLYNN LIVES. See the intent behind the name of the ARG? It relates to the ending that he. simply. LIVES. Flynn is immortalized in suspended digital animation in Sam's memory card.

Sam would NOT be that stupid to leave the Shiva laser in the basement and should haul it out in a truck or borrow Alan's car. I'm surprised he never showed Alan the secret lab when he should've. That man was his best friend.

IF the next story takes place in ENCOM's servers, then that digital world is going to be HUGE compared to Kevin's server. Seriously and that will require more users to help out the programs there. That means a team of Alan Bradley, Sam, Quorra and probably Dillinger Jr and to see Alan's reaction meeting Flynn for the first time in years.

Now, that's heavy. Especially, if he sees his own creation, TRON. I know Disney and the folks are watching us here but I hope they don't do anything stupid plot-wise.

I want them to keep it intelligent, dark, dramatic but yet instill a sense of retro-future positivism.
Lisberger, Bonnie MacBird, and probably one or two more writers to keep Tron 3 more focused and not derailed off the tracks.

Pilgrim1099 Wrote:I would cuss out the 'uneducated/ill-informed' critics who did NOT do their homework about their reviews. Seriously.

Sometimes, when a film has many issues, or is just plain bad (week plot, bad acting, etc.), the critics can do all the homework they want, it still won't help a bad or medeocre film sound good, and they definately should NOT have to read the ARG to have any bearing on the film. If the film was very good, the critics would probably mention that it was good.

Sub-Odeon Wrote:2) DIE-HARD 1982 TRON FANATICS, who for some reason wanted the sequel to look, feel, and be exactly like the original. Or at least they expected the same reactions to the sequel that they felt when they saw the original. Which is pretty much impossible because a) our society will never be computer-naive the way it still was in 1982 and b) nobody will ever again be the child or teen they were in 1982. In order to be able to give Legacy a proper viewing you have to be able to let go of the original to a certain extent, and I don't think some fans are ready for that.

I disagree. I saw Tron in 82 and at that time I still had the desire to go back and see it 4 more times in the theatre because I felt it was a great movie.

With Tron Legacy, I felt the plot and acting was so bad I don't care to see it in the theatre again and will easily wait for it to arrive on bluray. Even the costumes were bad (motorcycle racing stripes, come on.)

I was trying to give the movie a chance, but sometimes when a movie is bad, there is nothing you can do for it.

As an example, when Wargames2 came out, I wanted to like that movie more than you can possibly imagine, but Wargames2 was just a horrible movie, and I could not trick myself into liking it.

Tron Legacy was not as bad as Wargames2, but it was no gem either. I'm not going to fool myself into thinking Tron Legacy was a great movie, because it really wasn't. It was sustainable, but it wasn't a great movie, and I am stretching it if I say Tron Legacy was a good movie, because, I really think it was a bad movie. I wanted it to be good, but I honestly can not recommend the movie to anyone. I only hope if they do another sequel that it helps redeem the flop that is Tron Legacy.


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Eh, I didn't mean the professional reviewers, we all know that their option doesn't really count and they're all about "artsy fartsy" movies.

What I meant is that I've been seeing is the backlash from some longtime fans who feel like they may have lost a part of the world they once knew.

I am kind of still reeling a bit from those scenes in the movie and I feel quite discomforted by the thought that IF there is a Tron 3, there won't be a Tron or Flynn. I know those scenes are supposed to leave people wondering, but it may have had the unintended effect of leaving the long time fans feeling as if they witnessed a close friend's death.

Keep in mind I don't hate the movie, just that I found the scenes a little uncomfortable.
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Gotcha, I'll likely have a different impression when I get to see the movie again. :x

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The movie was definitely clunky and Flynn's hippie style kind of grated a little. However, I thought the story intention was good though they should've split it into two movies to show the transition from Tron'83 to Tron'10. You really can't explain a creation, conflict, and redemption story in flashbacks.

One thing I liked was the idea of the Iso's. Flynn was about to take them to the real world as a medical breakthrough. CLU wanted them destroyed because they were an aberration or imperfect. Flynn could create, CLU couldn't. It was an interesting take on the "Lament of the Angels" story.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

@#$% all critics. Why the heck should I care about what the New York Times thinks? Gentlemen, while this may sound self-centered, you know who they made this movie for? Us. So let's all enjoy it like I know we will. Because let's face it, we're the ones who really get it. If we pick up some new Programs along the way, great!

But this is our sector, they just play in it.

Pilgrim1099 Wrote: And don't worry, FLYNN LIVES. See the intent behind the name of the ARG? It relates to the ending that he. simply. LIVES. Flynn is immortalized in suspended digital animation in Sam's memory card.

Aha! I figured as much. After seeing the end and all, even though I haven't played the ARG I knew that its title meant more than it originally said. Even though it started way before the movie came out, it kept going, even though we already got the point that Flynn is indeed a live from all the commercials and everything. So it had to have a double meaning.

So both Tron and Kevin Flynn are still alive, in some form or other. The critics that say bad things about it haven't bothered to look at all the supliment material out there. The original Tron revolutionized the way movies are made, so the sequel had a lot to live up to. It did new things with 3D that no other movie has. I believe the story of TL is a lot better than the story of the original.