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Posts: 4 | themes of tron legacy -- thoughts? on Friday, December, 17, 2010 10:22 AM
so last night i saw the long anticipated tron legacy!
i wanted to get a discussion going on about some of the themes running through the movie, such as obsession with perfection and how these themes can be related to modern life.
also any thoughts as to why tron started working for clu? is it simply because he is a program? although his loyalty to the user prevailed, what could be some of the reasons behind his conversion?
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Posts: 234 | RE: themes of tron legacy -- thoughts? on Friday, December, 17, 2010 12:41 PM
My impression was that Tron was simply "re-purposed" by Clu. The flashback where Clu betrays Flynn and Tron on the grid shows Clu defeating Tron, but not actually killing him. We never see it actually happen, so I took it to mean that Tron was one of the very first programs "re-purposed" to serve in Clu's army.
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Posts: 1,025 | RE: themes of tron legacy -- thoughts? on Friday, December, 17, 2010 1:17 PM
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I think one of the things I took away from the movie was the Child (Sam) seeing that he now had to become a Man and put away some of his reckless behavior. Conversely I saw his father realizing just how imperfect and regrettful he was that he missed most of Sam's life and that perfection is a goal that may be worth striving for, but one that we have no clear defintion of what is "true" perfection. This also forces Kevin to grow up a bit an realize that utopia is also unatainable and that he has to accept responsiblity for his other child....Clu.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion
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Posts: 155 | RE: themes of tron legacy -- thoughts? on Friday, December, 17, 2010 1:26 PM
Thematically, the vein pursuit of perfection at the expense of the only attainable perfection -- human relationships/love -- is the most prominently referenced in dialogue. I think this is a profoundly importantly thing in a modern context where so much of our social existence takes place in the pursuit of some digitally perfect sanctum of communication. It obviously has more wide-reaching implications and interpretations, but this seems to me to be the most immediate.
This is, however, only the most obvious of the themes. It, most satisfyingly, lends incredible motivation to the off-screen movement of Flynn's character. There are other, even more potent, thematic statements made by the structure of the film and the character's interactions. Sam is a boy damaged by the loss of his father. His interactions on the grid, finally finding that missing piece of himself that could only come through a reconciliation with his father, finally unlocks his ability to become a whole person.
Sam and Kevin's relationship is a two way road, both changed by their interaction. Sam is wasting his potential as a pranking rouge child living in a garage with a dog and no human relationships to speak of. Kevin is in a similar space, by choice of in-action in his reclusion on the grid. Together, they are able to surpass their stagnation. Sam brining Kevin out of his hole, and Kevin giving Sam that last piece of the puzzle. What was that piece? The knowledge that he was not abandoned. That he would, and does, give anything for one day more with his boy. Love. In the digital realm.
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Thinktank User
Posts: 75 | RE: themes of tron legacy -- thoughts? on Saturday, December, 18, 2010 12:29 AM
As I posted in the primary review thread.
The accessability for a lot of viewers may be throttled buy one's knowledge
of eastern philosophical principles. Almost all the "odd/clunky" dialog some
of my aquaintances have mentioned, were heavily rooted in Buddhist/Jainist
concepts. If you understand the basic precepts of standard and Zen Buddhist
philosophy about how to overcome hardship and the inherently evasive nature
of absolutes like 'Perfection', some of what the 'Old Man' says makes a lot
more sense.
"People in this world look at things mistakenly,
and think that what they do not understand
must be the void.
This is not the true void. It is bewilderment...”
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