We keep seeing scenes where it appears Sam pulls the disc from his back or something happens and a helmet appears over his head with a clear glass front.

Why?

First the glass front looks bad, just look at the picture on the front page in the news (at this moment). I guess it doesn't cover the mouth so that it doesn't present an issue with hearing spoken dialog.

But it servers no real purpose, you get hit with a disc and its over, no matter where it hits you. Its just dumb. The full helmets for the villians looks good, but Sams just looks silly.

there seems to be "damage" and maybe even "injury" in this digital world so protective gear isn't useless.

but yeah, if you're hit dead-on with a disc it's blocko time!

i think it looks cool and i'm waiting for this:
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Sam's helmet is pretty cool IMO, it reminds me of Joe the Condor's helmet from " Gatchaman ".


I see no reason why such a minor thing like a character's helmet has to be complained about.
It's easier to enjoy a movie if one doesn't over-analyse and nitpick on every minor little thing. Just saying.

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bigbangbilly.exe Wrote:Well the visor looks like it can protect your eyes from dust Besides Rinzler's helmet appear to have the same degree of uselessness as Sam's visor

This

It's like complaining about the use of helmets in the original TRON. And if you're in a lightcycle, sure, you have a helmet, but the moment you slam into a wall, you're finished.

It's there purely for aesthetic appeal, and nothing more.

ChessMess Wrote:We keep seeing scenes where it appears Sam pulls the disc from his back or something happens and a helmet appears over his head with a clear glass front. Why? First the glass front looks bad, just look at the picture on the front page in the news (at this moment). I guess it doesn't cover the mouth so that it doesn't present an issue with hearing spoken dialog. But it servers no real purpose, you get hit with a disc and its over, no matter where it hits you. Its just dumb. The full helmets for the villians looks good, but Sams just looks silly.

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Cool to hear everyone's vantage points here, always creates great discussions... my standpoint: I'm diggin' the look of the visor and how it activates.

How much does it actually protect and how useful is it actually? Well, if perhaps comparing it as to why some basketball players wear goggles to protect their eyes while duking it out in thick of the game... it makes sense on that level, as well as bike riders wearing them to protect their eyes from the rush of air and wind -- that then warriors would wear them in riding the light cycles that they sit astride on in TRON: LEGACY.

But I agree with some of the other comments too that there's no need to over analyze things... especially in a fictional, sci-fi setting... if you did that, most (if not all) sci-fi/fantasy films would crumble when applying "real world logic" -- that's why they're called sci-fi and fantasies... the suspension of disbelief in viewing this type of genre film is the vantage point that you're supposed to utilize... and if you really dug into the likes of the STAR WARS movies, STAR TREK, etc... you'd see when applying practical science, technology, etc. -- it all doesn't add up. These movies, including the TRON movies, are not documentaries, they are entertainment, and first, foremost, and always should be approached as such. There's an idealism that each has that could possibly be realized in some technical ways in the distant future and some have elements that are rooted in the practical science and technology of today, but again as is, these films largely remain fantasies.

- Jay

xalener Wrote: lurkinghorror Wrote: That said, I do not like the execution of the helmets (or hair on the people of the digital world). What I was drawn to aesthetically from the the original film seems largely absent in this incarnation, and I think losing the identifiable aesthetic of something that has become so iconic is as wrong headed as completely redesigning Superman. I agree to an extent, but the hair in tron 1 wasn't all that crazy? That one woman (prostitute?) in the town area had regular hair, and everyone had eyebrows...so... :/

Regarding hair in the digital world -- in the original film, as xalener mentioned, programs still had eyebrows and the woman "solicitor" had a head full of hair -- as well, Dumont and many of the "older programs" had beards or goatees -- and Cindy Morgan/Yori didn't have a helmet on at one point in the "love scene" that was cut from the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nED_W7NA2Vs
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It can be argued and justified a thousand ways if that's what a person wants to do. And for each argument there is a counter argument. A beard on Dumont? I seem to recall hearing that the actor refused to shave. Hair during a cut scene? It was cut. Eyebrows? I never said they should be devoid of human features, I'm talking about a full head of hair. A one off character you barely see? Easily dismissed as outside the norm, as it clearly was.

The problem with all of these arguments is that they address the universe of Tron as if it as some internal logic that guarantees consistency. It's fiction and subject to revision and reinterpretation. The upcoming film is an example of that. They made changes. If you want to look for why these changes make sense and are consistent, you will find them. But the changes are made on a design and marketing level. Not because the world of Tron evolved or because it makes some type of sense.

I don't like hair on people of the digital world. For me, it makes the world feel less..."Tron". The lighting and effects and design of the original all conspired to take me, as a viewer, out of reality in a new and unique manner. The images from the new film don't convey this as effectively to me, and make me feel as if I'm seeing something else entirely. Doesn't mean it will be bad, just means it might not fit my preference.