HooDooMan Wrote:This is an interesting thread. I like reading about everyone's different ideas. It's very thought-provoking and makes me even more excited to see this movie! Darren mentions the video game takes place around 1989, 1990 and the Abraxas virus comes into the TRON world. Also, during the game we learn a lot about Abraxas and who created him and why. I find that a very interesting point. Remember, this is a STAND-ALONE server that Flynn has built in a back room at the Arcade. Who could have had the opportunity/means/motive to install a virus on that server (other than Kevin)? Why would someone want to load a virus onto that server? How does all that tie into the story of TRON: Legacy? On the other hand, it could be, as someone stated before, that all security programs have the "T" pattern, and Rinzler is just one of them, and that TRON will be integrated into the storyline in some other way that NONE OF US is suspecting. (Personally, I think THAT would be pretty cool!) I am SO excited about this movie! I've been waiting for 28 years! December 17th can't come fast enough!

I think the Abraxas virus happened right before Flynn's server in the arcade went privatized. In other words, someone in ENCOM or other must have known about Flynn's work and tried to infect it and he probably had to go back in there and clean it up but never returned. With a huge price to pay to maintain Utopia, they had to close off the gateways coming from ENCOM and the 'net (probably) and this is probably why Flynn's private server is now isolated like an island.

A perfect prison. To which I wonder if Flynn has been hiding out on purpose from other people in the real world OR he's been tricked and captured. It could go either way.

I don't want to say anything to rile this board but I suspect a certain character may have been hiding in the grid along with Flynn but underneath his nose. That would have been a perfect reason for Clu to turn on Flynn.

I'll give you a CLU. The actor JOHN. HURT. He's in Legacy but his role has been blacked out. That is the most important piece.

As for Tron, either he's corrupted/subverted by Clu (and I suspect the reason Yori's not in there officially is because she's history and most likely from the Abraxas attack). I can see the writing on the wall right now. That could explain Tron's lack of faith in Flynn while Clu's patting his back going "It's okay, man. My posse will take care of you. F--K Flynn. He messed up big time and I'm going to make sure he gets punished for this". Getting my drift here?

And I think Flynn is imprisoned because of some mistakes he made that cost him almost 20 years of his life. And if Clu is supposedly the 'dictator', he does'nt dress like one to me. It's more like he's working for someone else.

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I don't know - Rinzler being TRON is just way too easy. They would know that us fans would catch that symbol right off the bat. I hope they are able to get a better twist in there for it but if it is TRON and they do with Bruce B. what they did with Bridges with the aging stuff, I'd still be happy.

In fact there is no point in calling it TRON Legacy if there is no TRON in it somewhere!

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Pilgrim1099 Wrote:Well, MOST interesting in the new Tron website is that Dan Shor plays Rinzler.

What? I've seen nothing of the sort...in fact the actor's name is left blank.

FusionAddict Wrote: Pilgrim1099 Wrote:Well, MOST interesting in the new Tron website is that Dan Shor plays Rinzler. What? I've seen nothing of the sort...in fact the actor's name is left blank.

It's in the official Tron website's character intros. Trust me. Shor is playing Rinzler.

Crikey, so it is!

"oops"?

http://kiapurity.leamonde.net/tron/images/screenshots/tronlegacy-rinzler.jpg

In case if they decide to fix that... :V

First off: Hi, folks. Just another guy looking forward to seeing Tron Legacy!

The conversation about Rinzler, a possible relation to Tron, and the symbol is interesting. Personally, I'm hoping that it doesn't turn out to be as simple as "Rinzler is Tron." I'd think that the people behind the flick would realize that'd be a pretty easy thing to discover if the T-shaped symbol was a giveaway.

I can see where "T" could be some sort of a designation for security programs, but I don't quite see how "T" as a letter would fit--perhaps the shape of the symbol would somehow correlate. I think the fact that Evolution's playable program, Anon (which is designed to represent the player himself with the mission to "protect the system") has the same symbol could very well be indicative of this possibility. Rinzler's function, though, rather than protecting the system, would be protecting CLU.

Another thought--and I'm just brainstorming and spit-balling here--but what if the "T" designation on Rinzler is specific to the type of function that Rinzler is designed to execute or representative of Rinzler's origin?

For example, "T" could stand for "Tunneling." I'm thinking this particular idea might be a bit far-fetched being that Flynn's server is supposedly stand-alone and isolated from what we know, but does that indicate that is disconnected from any kind of network entirely? If any kind of network connection is present, an outside user could, conceivably, use a tunneling protocol to transmit data or even establish a connection with that server. Perhaps Rinzler represents a tunneling connection in that respect, establishing a veiled relationship between a user (controlling or sending Rinzler) and a program (CLU), somewhat similar to the relation between MCP & Dillinger.

Or, "T" could stand for "Terminal," indicating nothing more earth-shattering than the already publicized explanation that Rinzler is a terminal program, with the primary function of carrying out orders dictated by CLU.

Piggy-backing on other ideas suggested here and elsewhere, "T" could stand for "Template," basically suggesting that Rinzler is a program created using Tron as a template in terms of mirroring his abilities, but serving a malicious purpose, rather than the security purpose that Tron served.

Or, the whole thing could just be a coincidence. Somehow I doubt that, but it's definitely possible.

Of course, none of the above ideas or anything like them could make any sense whatsoever. But, like I said, I'm just spit-balling here, and none of our theories can really be confirmed until we see the movie, right?abortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion

FusionAddict Wrote:Perhaps the "T" is actually Alan's "signature code", denoting programs he compiled, such as Tron and Anon. Perhaps Alan wrote Rinzler for Flynn's experimental setup.

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Pilgrim1099 Wrote:It's in the official Tron website's character intros. Trust me. Shor is playing Rinzler.

David Prowse played Darth Vader, doesn't mean that David Prowse voiced Darth Vader.

Same concept, you can't have Boxleitner doing stunts at his age, so, naturally, there's a body double. They'd credit the body double because Disney doesn't want a plot twist being revealed that over-easily.

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Pilgrim1099 Wrote: That's why I'm thinking it's him. Shor could be double-stunting as Rinzler/Tron while Bruce's face would be CGI-ed into the helmet or placed over Shor's head digitally when he takes the helmet off. I think Bruce probably could'nt do much physically due to his age or maybe he had a physical limitation such as bad knees (who knows?) that he's not as fast as he used to be. But I'm surprised Shor can still do this as he has to be about Bruce's age by now.

People stay in better shape than others at their own ages is all. It seems overtly obvious to me that it's Tron undercover. Him being an infected program or corrupted or a different security program altogether just wouldn't work in the context this film is in. Kosinski said he's definitely in the film, yet we haven't seen any hint of him asides from Rinzler, who happens to have the EXACT. SAME. CIRCUITRY. Seems completely, unabashedly obvious to me...