ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 7:59 PM
{Edit} ( Written by "Brad")
" The author of the Twilight Series books is an active member of the Mormon Church hate group, and donates 10% of her Twilight royalties to the Mormon Church hate group.
The Mormon Church has been very active in promoting intolerance of the Gay, Lesbian, Transgendered and Bisexual community. The Mormon church helped fund and promote the anti-gay marriage bill in California. (Prop EIGHT) "
" With the huge boxoffice success of “Twilight,” it grossed over $70M domestically, this past weekend, not only is Stephenie Meyer making tons of money so is the Mormon Church.
Stephenie Meyer, described as the “the Mormon Anne Rice,” does what any good Mormon does which is called tithing. Tithing is a requirement in the Mormon religion and it’s usually 10% of their earnings. So, with all the talk about the Mormon church being a huge supporter of Prop 8, it seems like “Twilight” and Stephanie Meyer are contributors as well. "
http://professorwhatif.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/what-if-we-are-a-fanpire-nation-allowing-the-passage-of-prop-8-via-our-twilight-obsessions/
Some food for thought. Maybe some people should consider boycott "Twilight"... "The film is about finding human connection in an increasingly digital world." - Joseph Kosinski
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basic.exe User
Posts: 120 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 9:15 PM
I'm not sure I understood your post.
The author of the Twilight Series books is an active member of the Mormon Church hate group, and donates 10% of her Twilight royalties to the Mormon Church hate group |
followed by:
Stephenie Meyer, described as the “the Mormon Anne Rice,” does what any good Mormon does which is called tithing. |
So she's a Good Mormon, who is an active member of a Mormon Hate Group?
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never mind all that, why exactly should we boycott Twilight? (apart from the fact that it's Twilight) Because stephanie meyer is a mormon? Or because she chooses to give 10% of her money to the Mormon Church? both are silly reasons.
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Jademz User
Posts: 0 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 10:11 PM
I understood it perfectly.. While I don't dive into this subject deeply (I'm not anti-mormon or prop 8, just anti frootloop to clarify), from what it looks like, she's one of the 5 top earning women in hollywood, according to forbes, and supposedly one of the most influential.
Meanwhile, people who dislike the twilight series like point out that she may promote people disliking gay and lesbian rights, supposedly supports people who hate them, but also, the characters of the movie are quite annoying for many people to boot.
(I don't care, I won't go see it anyway)
I guess when you take sides about something heart felt like writing about being a vampire, then make political arguments that aren't popular, with such a high profile, perhaps you're not as distinguished as people think.
I'm sure there's got to be a way to get around the laws that hand your property over to the state when a person dies, and several other issues.. I'm sure most of us would agree upon points being made, if it wasn't all about how to lable people closest to you according to a philosophical legal debate, but apparently things will never make sense.
Meanwhile, people who support prop 8 may be disgusted by what churches, particularly one that is controversial, do with their time and money. I don't find the argument weird at all. where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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basic.exe User
Posts: 120 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 10:43 PM
yeah but it starts by saying that she's part of a mormon HATE group. i don't understand that. wouldn't a mormon hate group....ummm....hate mormonism?
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Posts: 278 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 11:02 PM
basic.exe Wrote:yeah but it starts by saying that she's part of a mormon HATE group. i don't understand that. wouldn't a mormon hate group....ummm....hate mormonism?
or is it that the OP is saying that the Mormon Church is itself a hate group? |
He just labels the mormon church as a hate group.
I dont see the mormon church as a threat. There are tons of other religious and quasi religious groups with their agenda. Despite their religious/moral view the mormons would never, never haras or shoot a gay. It is a lill wrong to point at them when there are bigger fish out there.
But I am not gona elaborate on that now.
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Posts: 4,349 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 11:23 PM
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Jademz User
Posts: 0 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 11:25 PM
basic.exe Wrote:yeah but it starts by saying that she's part of a mormon HATE group. i don't understand that. wouldn't a mormon hate group....ummm....hate mormonism?
or is it that the OP is saying that the Mormon Church is itself a hate group? |
I don't think in whole they are either. I've been chased by a man who was Mormon, who would have beat me to a pulp, but it was my fault in this case.
I will say that most people who may become indoctrinated by a leader's philosophy at church mostly hate things that destroy families, and most would try to convert the people gathered there to be to protect the choice. Not unlike any other family.
I do think they are making a serious accusation calling the church a hate group, rarely, there are serious imbreds who are relentless. They are basically accusing the Mormons of paligamy, which is slander to most of them, also as mentioned, that they are a hate group, because similar groups have been raided by the FBI.
It is bad to paint with a broad brush with any group, especially when it comes to religion because that's what the government wants, control over everything. It want's to destroy freedom of speech and assembly in times of "emergency" so you should be very careful how much you play into that rhetoric you're hearing, find out more about who's hating who in this case. |
Traahn User
Posts: 3,301 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Tuesday, November, 03, 2009 11:43 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: The author of the Twilight Series books is an active member of the Mormon Church hate group, and donates 10% of her Twilight royalties to the Mormon Church hate group.
The Mormon Church has been very active in promoting intolerance of the Gay, Lesbian, Transgendered and Bisexual community. The Mormon church helped fund and promote the anti-gay marriage bill in California. (Prop
" With the huge boxoffice success of “Twilight,” it grossed over $70M domestically, this past weekend, not only is Stephenie Meyer making tons of money so is the Mormon Church.
Stephenie Meyer, described as the “the Mormon Anne Rice,” does what any good Mormon does which is called tithing. Tithing is a requirement in the Mormon religion and it’s usually 10% of their earnings. So, with all the talk about the Mormon church being a huge supporter of Prop 8, it seems like “Twilight” and Stephanie Meyer are contributors as well. "
http://professorwhatif.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/what-if-we-are-a-fanpire-nation-allowing-the-passage-of-prop-8-via-our-twilight-obsessions/
Some food for thought. Maybe some people should consider boycott "Twilight"...
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Not sure Tron-sector is the best forum for this type of thing...but oh well.
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Jademz User
Posts: 0 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 12:09 AM
I hope (almost certain) the main point is, that whoever arranged Comic-Con '09 used very poor judgement, personally I think that should be the only issue, and if that crap continues, the movie industry make adjustments.
If they don't, boycott comic-con and twilight. or whatnot. |
Traahn User
Posts: 3,301 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 12:25 AM
I guess I don't know what happened at Comicon '09? Oh well, I'm not really sure I want to come to Tron-Sector to read about the latest political debates anyways.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 2:16 AM
I forgot to add in a disclaimer to my original post that the initial text is from an e-mail I received from an aquaintence. The vague wording is Brad's, not my own by the way.
A hate group that is part of a particular major Mormon Chuch is what was meant.
It seems that Meyer's gives a portion of her earnings to that group(sorry I don't know what their name is).
So I think there's some food for thought and that maybe some might consider boycotting "Twilight".
The concept that part of the profits made from "Twilight' is used to support a hate group that actively funds political campaigns that push to deny the rights of people based only on their sexual orientation, and I find that dispicable.
To me it's just another of the many things that are a strike against "Twilight".
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basic.exe User
Posts: 120 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 9:16 AM
Thanks for the clarification.
As far as the issue at hand goes, I tend to agree with Traahn. It would be easy for us to decide that "Twilight" needs to be boycotted, simply because we dislike it, but if we selectively choose which things to boycott based on principles that extend beyond the scope of those individual things, then we are hypocritically betraying our stated principals. Like Traahn said, if we're going to hate "Twilight" simply because a portion of the proceeds might be going to further the cause of Prop-8, then we need to start hating "Tron" as well, and for the very same reason.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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Posts: 2,991 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 9:35 AM
I really doubt she's Mormon considering that the only information I was able to find the connection was on 'blogs' and not legit sites... I could be wrong since I may not be looking in the right locations but 'Twilight' isn't necessarily a work of Mormon promotion (if that is really the case).
See.. I could care less. I'm a straight male that would rather see Rambo over a girly film any day (or eat a rusty nail for that matter).
... and I agree Traahn... The sector isn't a place for political debates.
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Jademz User
Posts: 0 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 11:17 AM
I'm surprised that nobody's relating this to what reasons to go see their favorite thing - Tron Legacy @ comic-con. Thousands of squatters inside who took seats of thousands of future and current Tron fans. An entire culture going to see comics and fan based stuff got over run, and people are speaking out. What if you go to the theater, spent 20 bucks, and all the squatters took the seats, waste of time?
I'm not interested in the politics of any certain group these days, but if you read between the lines, it's not hard to think about what's going on and why. I do agree that - this particular peice of info goes over the line of likeability and is a little offensive to some readers, however, Alan's on my facebook friends list, and he doesn't post offensive things or politically motivated stuff. It's because he saw the TL panel get hijacked and comicon to boot, so when I spend 100 bucks to go next time around, I'll be pissed off if they make the same mistake twice.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 2:52 PM
My intention was not to start any political debates or to say "we must boycott this!" at all.
I was only meant as food for thought, nothing more.
Thanks for your post Jadem.
I more so strongly dislike "Twilight" for many many reasons. The mishandled and haphazard handling of rabid fans of Twilight at SD Comic Con is only *one* of those reasons.
Other reasons I really dislike Meyer's books and the movies are; the terrible acting, cliched and poorly written story and plot, the awful concept of "Vampires" that sparkle with glittery skin in the sunlight, the excessive emotional angst that even tops whiney Emo kids' shows of superficial drama whoring, and blantant
qausi-sexploitation of typical male teen "beefcakes" that's targeted at underaged girls.
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Posts: 0 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 4:39 PM
i wasnt raised in the lds because my father was excommunicated but my parents were married here
never been there though ive seen it from I95. id like to check it out some day.
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Overmind User
Posts: 278 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 5:15 PM
I knew from SDCC that SD hated Twilight. I would to if I had been there. But to use that as a fodder to an antiGay mormon-conspiracy...?
I do have very close friends in the Mormon church. And I know that, though they do not respect gays sexual orientation, they do respect the human qualities, and enjoy their friendship. One of my mormon friends served as an offiser in Afghanistan, as an voluntair. There might be a difference betwen the American and the Norwegian Mormon church.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 5:56 PM
I despise "Twilight" which is not the same as hating. I don't waste my time or my energy hating it.
And there is information to show that it's not some made up conspiracy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upWb2jBk5xw
http://laist.com/2009/01/31/190000_more_mormon_dollars_spent_on.php
http://www.advocate.com/article.aspx?id=43095
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Posts: 3,301 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 8:07 PM
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Posts: 0 | Re: Another Strike against "Twilight", Please Read. on Wednesday, November, 04, 2009 8:25 PM
Traahn Wrote:Regarding Jademz' post: people are usually free to choose what movies, music, video games, books or other art they like. If Twilight, as an artistic expression, has succeeded in drawing more of a large or active fan-base than another artistic expression in that of Tron -- then that's either a failure of Tron or a success of Twilight, but likely a combination of both. Twilight has obviously struck a cord with many people. |
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