Hate to rain on the parade, but it doesn't look good based on the test footage. Why are there clouds (cloud computing?) Jeff Bridges is too old. Since when can light cycles bang into each other? Why aren't the guys glowing? The scenery does not look very "computery" at all. Looks like a regular human city. I'll need to see "more", but it doesn't look like I will be bothering with this.

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digit Wrote:Hate to rain on the parade, but it doesn't look good based on the test footage.

I've been criticizing that since I saw it, I don't see the digital FX on anything, just glowlines.

And, I'm going to accept that maybe it's going to look like that, but way better according to what ShadowDragon stated in the forums, Joseph Kosinski said that he doesn't like people watching the test footage. The film looks better than the test.

Sorry, maybe you haven't been reading up in here, it's an honest mistake.

Why are there clouds (cloud computing?) Jeff Bridges is too old. Since when can light cycles bang into each other? Why aren't the guys glowing? The scenery does not look very "computery" at all. Looks like a regular human city. I'll need to see "more", but it doesn't look like I will be bothering with this.

It's ok to be skeptical, but you're preaching to the choir. I'm sure this is going to be a huge movie. Just wait for a real trailer to come out, and come back here and give your opinion.

Most of us are probably getting really impatient, but I'm happy that I can imagine the grid has evolved, and so on. Computers are much more intelligent today. So perhaps time will tell.

Tron Legacy is a sequel by the way and not a re-hash.

( The following sumation is based on audio clips of Kevin Flynn on the Flynn Lives website, several interviews with original Tron director & writer Steve Lisberger, interviews with TL directer Jospeph Konsinki and Sean Bailey, the TL panel at San Diego Comic Con 2009 and the Tron & Tron Legacy presentation at the D23 Expo)


The digital cyber realm within the Encom system (possibly upgraded) has been isolated from the world wide internet, and has been set up as Flynn's experiment.

Think of these isolated Programs, as a sort of a form of life. like microbes in a petri dish, over the course of 20 yrs what happens within the pentri dish?
Growth, adaptation, i.e. evolution. Just as a Cold and Flu viruses that grow, adapt, i.e "evolve."
This is what has happened in the isolated Encom System, growth, adaptation ; evolution of a sort.

Sorry, that system is not going to be stuck in time and be unchanging or looking exactly the same for 20 yrs.

Especially not with Flynn's presense subtley influensing (either directly or inadvertantly) a consciencous human mind exsisting in that world.. so there was probably some influence on the development of that digital society. (perhaps a kind of inadvertent "Promethius" figure)

These little digital beings of energy have grown, adapted and evolved. (kind of like like microbes in a isolated petri dish)
They've developed there own society/civilization. This is *not* "Tron UnderWorld" or "Tron Gotham City" or some such non-sense.

It's far far to early to dismiss Tron Legacy as being "awful" or "unwatchable". since very little has been shown or reveled about it (what has been shown is very early concept work btw. Joe Konsinki even has said what being done now blows away that early concept footage).

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digit Wrote:Hate to rain on the parade, but it doesn't look good based on the test footage. Why are there clouds (cloud computing?) Jeff Bridges is too old. Since when can light cycles bang into each other? Why aren't the guys glowing? The scenery does not look very "computery" at all. Looks like a regular human city. I'll need to see "more", but it doesn't look like I will be bothering with this.

*Every question in your concerns can be answered (such as Lightcycles not going only in 90 degrees. They had plenty degrees of freedom in the first movie), but here's a general all-around answer.*

Ha!:P Well, try not to take concept tests serious. These tests are really meant for, well, testing purposes. Don't forget this same thing happened when they were barely getting started with the original Tron movie. They needed some kind of test footage to see if they could possibly have the resources and ability to make a movie. After they built this very early concept of the movie, they took it to Disney to show it to them and see if they would possibly be interested in funding the studio's creation of the movie.

When Disney watched that test footage, it turned out they hated it and were reluctant to help the small studio make a movie. Luckily after a little more time and work they were able to convince Disney to help fund the movie and make the vfx milestone we know today.
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Sorry, that system is not going to be stuck in time and be unchanging or looking exactly the same for 20 yrs.

I think it'd be cool to go this route some day, though -- in another Tron sequel or remake.

Just because our real world looks different after 20 years and computers are incredibly faster after 20 years, I don't feel the Tron universe necessarily needs to morph or evolve. It's not an "If A (our world evolves) then B (the computer world needs to evolve)" situation. The decision to evolve the computer world is an artistic one. Yes, it makes sense 'in the reality we know' that the computer world should evolve. Yes, it'll be cool to see what Kosinski does with it, and yes it was cool in the test reel.

I'm just saying it's mostly an artistic decision to make the computer world evolve. Theoretically speaking, I could make my own Tron Legacy movie and keep the visuals the same as the original , yet have it be 20 years later in the real world -- and have it make sense that the computer world doesn't look any different than it did 20 years earlier.

PS: Digit, sorry to hear you're not really interested or impressed by the test reel. Hopefully the movie will exceed your expectations and be good; so much so that you dig it.

ShadowDragon1 Wrote: As much as I love original movie. I would be far less interested, unimpressed, and have little enthusiasm about watching a new Tron movie that had visuals that were exactly the same as the original Tron movie, having the static constraints of the original movie. To me it would be kind of boring, sort of stiff, and stangnant looking to me. Like looking at a relic. Yeah, it may be a very nice looking relic, just as a hand made abbaccus may look very nice and fuction well as means for doing addition and subtraction math, but it's not a gaming PC. While that specific visual look of Tron fits the original Tron.. IMO it doesn't quite "fit" nowadays. While I do love the visual style of the original Tron and Tron 2.0. IMO it's not exactly quite as visually impressive or stunning in current context of today's top sci-fi films. I know Tron purists would like things to stay the same and not change, it's just doesn't quite fit IMO... My only wish is that the concept/FX artist incorperate some circuitry pattern prints on to the characters. That's the main thing I'd like to see. Everything else to me makes rational and relative sense in terms of visuals, the cosmology of Tron/Tron Legacy Universe, and it's back story.

I am concerned that they are going to turn this into something other than a TRON movie. This would not be an unprecedented move; they may be taking notes from the recent Star Trek movie, which was reportedly trying hard to be untrek-like and did generate a ton of revenue. If that happens, I think we will all be very disappointed. TRON was more than just an action-thriller.

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ShadowDragon1 Wrote: As much as I love original movie. I would be far less interested, unimpressed, and have little enthusiasm about watching a new Tron movie that had visuals that were exactly the same as the original Tron movie, having the static constraints of the original movie. To me it would be kind of boring, sort of stiff, and stangnant looking to me. Like looking at a relic. Yeah, it may be a very nice looking relic, just as a hand made abbaccus may look very nice and fuction well as means for doing addition and subtraction math, but it's not a gaming PC. While that specific visual look of Tron fits the original Tron.. IMO it doesn't quite "fit" nowadays. While I do love the visual style of the original Tron and Tron 2.0. IMO it's not exactly quite as visually impressive or stunning in current context of today's top sci-fi films. I know Tron purists would like things to stay the same and not change, it's just doesn't quite fit IMO... My only wish is that the concept/FX artist incorperate some circuitry pattern prints on to the characters. That's the main thing I'd like to see. Everything else to me makes rational and relative sense in terms of visuals, the cosmology of Tron/Tron Legacy Universe, and it's back story.

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Hey, no dissing Star Trek. :[ *Has family member that's Star Trek Fan since the original series* the last time I remember the resent Star Trek movie is absolutely fantastic. :[

This footage is so old it doesn't even compare to the real deal. It’s testing material, it’s meant for the studios have something to temporally work with in the earliest stages of preproduction. Technically we shouldn’t (emphasis on shouldn’t)even be allowed to look at any of this due to the fact the movie far from being finished( ! ).

It's like watching a four year old test footage of Toy Story before it even comes out and assuming the movie is going to consist of blocky unfinished models, storyboards, character designs, and filler music.

Like I said earlier, when Disney first saw that test footage for the first Tron movie they hated it, but that wasn’t a legit excuse for them to assume the movie was going to be bad.

*needs caffeine*
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I am fairly confident that Tron Legacy's story and visual look will be pretty kick ass overall once it's released.