Everyone seems to be all excited about the new lightcycle trailer, but am I the only one who does not really like it?

Yes, *technically* it is very well done, but looks like it dripped off of a MAC desktop combined with some sort of dark plot. I'm so sick of "glassy" and "lickable" looking graphics I could puke. TRON, like the original Star Wars (episode IV), pushed the limit of special effects of the day to help tell a story. Today is seems that special effects *are* the story, and it is getting old. I think TRON and Star Wars are timeless and so good because they could not make the stuff perfect. There is a certain sense of realism about them that is lost in today's hyped-up special effect sensationalized crap.

They seem to have the "Lucas Syndrome" of doing it just because they can.

The computer graphics in TRON don't need to get any better, they were great back then and we're still trying to get *our* lightcycles to look as good as the movie. In the movie, the computer graphics *are* computer graphics - they are supposed to look unrealistic.

Also, computers are digital, hard ones and zeros, not smooth and organic. The whole smashing into each other on the lightcycles, turning the jet-wall on and off, is totally contrary to what makes a lightcycle a lightcycle. And the landscape... Sure it looks nice, but it is not a TRON landscape. I mean, come on, streets and lamp posts... in a computer world...

If the trailer is any indication of what the rest of the movie is going to be like, IMHO they are going to ruin the TRON legacy.

Just my two cents.

Matthew

I agree with matthew180. It really does seem like the plot for the new movie is rather shallow and poorly thought out (son looks for father. That's never been done), and that they're pushing special effects and the franchise itself as the main draw.

Oh god...

I just nearly explained Star Wars: Episode 1..



Jokes aside, I really wish that the new movie focused more on the metaphors of being inside a computer like the first movie, rather than just showing us how the computer world has evolved.

Will it kill the TRON franchise? Probably not. Will it be better than the original? probably not. Will it be a good movie? I think Kosinski is a pretty competent director. But will it blend? That is the question.

I think the trailer looks great, slick graphics and all. It's a bit early to pass judgment on how well the plot will be executed. It's one thing to know the plot of a movie; quite another to see how it gets layed out. I could make a plot for a movie be, "The nice son of an angry man is the only hope for a world" and it sounds lame, but it could be Star Wars.

I have concerns over the amount of realism, too... and do kind've wish deep-down it looked more like the original Tron's style (with some imperfections and room left for imagination)... but at the same time, I'm a sucker for the beauty shown in the test reel. I find myself torn between two worlds.

If it's any consolation, we've only seen the concept reel and concept art, so there's a chance (albeit small) they won't go quite so slick and real everywhere.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure what to think of the 'realistic' stuff we're seeing, but then again, the original Tron had sunsets, motorcycle-looking things, tanks, frisbees, a hi-li (sp?) game, a Mickey Mouse head in one of the scenes, prison cells, a solar sailer, program emotions, etc.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online

I don't mind that things look a little more realistic. I do think that Kosinski and Lisberger will have things look like a mix of surrealistic aspects with some realistic aspects.

I don't think things will look completely realistic though.

Abstracts and surrealism are great, I like such things too, but if things look too surreal it may push away some audiences.

When I refer to "evolved" I'm refering to it in a relative way, in more metaphysical way, and not so much in the way of "evolved to be real" per se, but more that the thoughts, percpetions and interactions of a User influenceing that world to develop in the way it has developed and grown.

IF Flynn or another User (such as Sam) mind perceives a little bit more realism, that's going to be expressed by the Digital world and all that inhabit it.

Technological level of computer hardware and software gotten more advanced and/or upgraded so that's an major factor, the next major factor is the thoughts & perceptions of the User(s) within that world shaping things as well. where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online

sorry matthew, but you can't base your opinion solely on a test trailer. I hope that that your complaints on this film won't lead to another retarded Indiana Jones 4-type backlash with all the internet trolls and wannabe "true fans" screaming about how Disney "ruined their childhoods". I'll never hear the end of the undeserved Indy 4 bitching and I DON'T WANT TRON LEGACY SUFFERING THE SAME FATE DUE TO UNGRATEFUL PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

hope they've tricked up a new ENCOM chopper. if not, massive fail.

isMetaClass Wrote: and Pac-Man. it has Pac-Man.

Yes, but I didn't mention because it doesn't seem quite the same as the other stuff.

PS: Hopefully the MCP didn't appropriate him...
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ShadowDragon1 Wrote: Technological level of computer hardware and software gotten more advanced and/or upgraded so that's an major factor, the next major factor is the thoughts & perceptions of the User(s) within that world shaping things as well.

The problem is, actually, computers are just the same as they were when they were first invented in silicon. The only difference we have today is speed and density. Aside from that, they *work* exactly the same. A CPU still fetches, decodes, executes, and stores instruction and data in the same way. CD and DVD devices work exactly the same as they always have, hard drives are still a spinning disc of magnetic material. So from the perspective of a software program or insides of a computer, very little has actually changed, other than things getting more crowded.

The way a computer works has nothing to do with how we, as humans, live or use them - and based on the trailer I saw it seems like they are missing the point.

Matthew

matthew180 Wrote:The problem is, actually, computers are just the same as they were when they were first invented in silicon. The only difference we have today is speed and density. Aside from that, they *work* exactly the same. A CPU still fetches, decodes, executes, and stores instruction and data in the same way. CD and DVD devices work exactly the same as they always have, hard drives are still a spinning disc of magnetic material. So from the perspective of a software program or insides of a computer, very little has actually changed, other than things getting more crowded.

The plot in Tron shows us the symbiotic relation with the beauty of the aesthetically simulated digital world, the ability for mankind to see their mistakes, and the art in making a thought from electronic mediums.

There's plenty to say about how integrated and mechanized futuretech is right now. It's completely evolved for Tron to drop in and say, "You think that's why they work the way they do?" It's up to you to get the motives in the way they want to show you, I'm sure it's going to look all 3D and fast, I would like it to match my expectations of the digital world I read here: http://203.13.16.1/tron/
The same plot played in today's art is a the very thing us fans have always wanted to see.

The game had a big influence on me, because my imagination ran wild thinking of how it might be, maybe this movie will add to that, hopefully a similar game will come out.

The way a computer works has nothing to do with how we, as humans, live or use them - and based on the trailer I saw it seems like they are missing the point.

Yes. that's the point where "it's not just a game". It's just a story that will be exciting for us to watch and create energy from how much computers think for us, how to establish a identity with something that is supposed to contain a living organisms synaptic responses and every tissue operating better inside than outside. There's alot of science involved, it's not just about your game rig.
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What I really like is that the concept artist Daniel Simon *seems to me* to be in part, very inspired by Syd Mead and I think that is reflective of his concept art for Tron Legacy.

There's seems to some Syd Mead-ish elements and many elements from alot of Syd's original Tron concept art that seems to have been incoperated into Tron Legacy's concept designs.

I'm confident that the movie will looks visually awesome and overall be a pretty good film due to all who's involved.

This is not some Uwe Boll shlock cash-in movie being spewed out now.

I think Lisberger will maintain great influence over things.

I also think that a person's expectations should be kept to resonable and more pragmatic levels, and not amplified into "if they don't make the movie exactly as I want and expect it to be; then I will declare it's crap."

I'd rather not wallow in purist standards, and inflated and unresonable wants and expectations. I think it'd be hard to enjoy any movie if I did that. where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill onlineabortion pills online abortion questions cytotec abortion