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Cam_the_Man
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on Saturday, November, 15, 2008 7:52 PM

I was thinking about buying Rock Band 2 and I was wondering if that or World Tour was better.
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on Saturday, November, 15, 2008 8:59 PM
Cam_the_Man Wrote:
I was thinking about buying Rock Band 2 and I was wondering if that or World Tour was better.

I personally think World Tour introduced more features than Rock Band 2. If you have the original Rock Band on 360, PS3, or PS2, then your original Rock Band peripherals SHOULD work with World Tour. What system are you getting it for?

Rock Band 2's got the singing duels, though, something not in World Tour. Of course, World Tour lets you do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KckA1vGfUw
And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaEc1yNw0KI
I'd say World Tour if you don't have any peripherals yet, but if you are getting it on the Wii, and you already have Rock Band 1, get Rock Band 2 if you don't feel like churning out $200 for more controllers. Also, the official controller compatibility matrix on the Guitar Hero Community website is incorrect.

Some comparisons (excluding PS2):

RB2 has drums freestyle - GHWT has music studio, which doubles as Lead, Rythym, Keyboard, Mic, Bass, and Drums freestyle.

RB2 has daily challenges - GHWT has Guitar Hero Community linking, which shows your stats on the site.

RB2 and WT have about the same number of songs, all masters.

In the end, I think it really boils down to which songs you like the most.

---Of course, seeing Ozzy Ozborne and Jimi Hendrix in-game on WT hasn't gotten old at all---

In short: Stay away from Rock Revolution and Ultimate Band and you'll be perfectly okay.

EDIT: If you are drunk out of this world, you can do this with RB drums: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E4tr7F4VGI
EDIT 2: I just remembered, there's been some issues with World Tour peripherals lately (which is normal, the game just came out). Mainly drum issues concerning sensitivity probs. You may wanna hold off a little while.


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on Sunday, November, 16, 2008 3:38 AM
Cam_the_Man Wrote:
I was thinking about buying Rock Band 2 and I was wondering if that or World Tour was better.

Well... while you are choosing between both, you might also want to try a free game for the PC called "Frets on Fire". It's a small but impressive game and the tutorial is so freaking funny.... and (like I said) it's free... so you can't beat the price.

Check it out...

Video of the game.. but video isn't of the best quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lG5MiRO264

Website to download.

http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/


 
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on Sunday, November, 16, 2008 1:51 PM
Frets on Fire is pretty good for a free game. I tried it once, and Vista hid and deleted my songs from the Frets on Fire folder.

Other than that, my only gripes were the shapes of the notes and the hit window for hammer-ons, that's about it, though. Worth trying.

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on Sunday, November, 16, 2008 5:52 PM

All I have is PS2 and the only musical game I have is Guitar Hero III
This will probably decide it, but which one has the AC/DC expansion thing coming out for it?
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on Sunday, November, 16, 2008 6:24 PM
Ooh, if you want to play the ACDC expansion, then you'll want Rock Band 2, I don't believe the Guitar Hero 3 guitar is compatible with Rock Band.

Let me explain further:

The Rock Band 1 game engine does not support Guitar Hero 3 guitars, but I think the Rock Band 2 game engine does. If that's true, then you'll be able to use your Guitar Hero 3 guitar on Rock Band 2, but not the ACDC pack, because it runs on the RB1 engine.

Here's my suggestion, get the Rock Band 2 full band kit. Then some other time, you can get the Guitar Hero World Tour game alone and do four players right out of the box. You'll also be able to do four players on the ACDC pack out of the box.

Also, the ACDC pack is only being sold at Sam's Club and Wal-Mart, $30 for PS2, $40 for everything else.


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on Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:21 PM

K, it looks like I'm getting Rock Band 2 because everyone else recommends it. I guess I should compare set lists but oh well
I plan on getting it for PS2 so that'll work great


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on Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:33 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty excited for RB2 also. I just hope they don't gimp it over like the original RB. I think it's basically the Wii version with no online.

It's got Rush's "The Trees" on the list, can't go wrong there, lol.

Here's the setlists:

GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR:
* 311 - “Beautiful Disaster”
* 30 Seconds To Mars - “The Kill”
* Airbourne - “Too Much Too Young”
* The Allman Brothers Band - “Ramblin' Man”
* Anouk - “Good God”
* The Answer - “Never Too Late”
* At The Drive-In - “One Armed Scissor”
* Beastie Boys - “No Sleep Till Brooklyn”
* Beatsteaks - “Hail to the Freaks”
* Billy Idol - “Rebel Yell”
* Black Label Society - “Stillborn”
* Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - “Weapon of Choice”
* blink-182 - “Dammit”
* Blondie - “One Way or Another”
* Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - “Hollywood Nights”
* Bon Jovi - “Livin’ On A Prayer”
* Bullet For My Valentine - “Scream Aim Fire”
* Coldplay - “Shiver”
* Creedence Clearwater Revival - “Up Around The Bend”
* The Cult - “Love Removal Machine”
* Dinosaur Jr. - “Feel The Pain”
* The Doors - “Love Me Two Times”
* Dream Theater - “Pull Me Under”
* The Eagles - “Hotel California”
* The Enemy - “Aggro”
* Filter - “Hey Man, Nice Shot”
* Fleetwood Mac - “Go Your Own Way”
* Foo Fighters - “Everlong”
* The Guess Who - “American Woman”
* Hush Puppies - “You're Gonna Say Yeah!”
* Interpol - “Obstacle 1”
* Jane's Addiction - “Mountain Song”
* Jimi Hendrix - “Purple Haze (Live)”
* Jimi Hendrix - “The Wind Cries Mary”
* Jimmy Eat World - “The Middle”
* Joe Satriani - “Satch Boogie”
* Kent - “Vinternoll2”
* Korn - “Freak On A Leash”
* Lacuna Coil - “Our Truth”
* Lenny Kravitz - “Are You Gonna Go My Way”
* Linkin Park - “What I've Done”
* The Living End - “Prisoner of Society”
* Los Lobos - “La Bamba”
* Lost Prophets - “Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)”
* Lynyrd Skynyrd - “Sweet Home Alabama (Live)”
* Mars Volta - “L'Via L'Viaquez”
* MC5’s Wayne Kramer - “Kick Out The Jams”
* Metallica - “Trapped Under Ice”
* Michael Jackson - “Beat It”
* Modest Mouse - “Float On”
* Motörhead - “Overkill”
* Muse - “Assassin”
* Negramaro - “Nuvole e Lenzuola”
* Nirvana - “About a Girl (Unplugged)”
* No Doubt - “Spiderwebs”
* NOFX - “Soul Doubt”
* Oasis - “Some Might Say”
* Ozzy Osbourne - “Crazy Train”
* Ozzy Osbourne - “Mr. Crowley”
* Paramore - “Misery Business”
* Pat Benatar - “Heartbreaker”
* R.E.M. - “The One I Love”
* Radio Futura - “Escuela De Calor”
* Rise Against - “Re-Education Through Labor”
* Sex Pistols - “Pretty Vacant”
* Silversun Pickups - “Lazy Eye”
* Smashing Pumpkins - “Today”
* Steely Dan - “Do It Again”
* Steve Miller Band - “The Joker”
* Sting - “Demolition Man (Live)”
* The Stone Roses - “Love Spreads”
* Stuck In The Sound - “Toy Boy”
* Sublime - “Santeria”
* Survivor - “Eye of the Tiger”
* System of a Down - “B.Y.O.B.”
* Ted Nugent - “Stranglehold”
* Tokio Hotel - “Monsoon”
* Tool - “Parabola”
* Tool - “Schism”
* Tool - “Vicarious”
* Trust - “Antisocial”
* Van Halen - “Hot For Teacher”
* Willie Nelson - “On The Road Again”
* Wings - “Band on the Run”

ROCK BAND 2:
1. AC/DC “Let There Be Rock” 1970s
2. AFI “Girl’s Not Grey” 2000’s
3. Alanis Morissette “You Oughta Know” 1990’s
4. Alice in Chains “Man in the Box” 1990’s
5. Allman Brothers “Ramblin’ Man” 1970’s
6. Avenged Sevenfold “Almost Easy” 2000’s
7. Bad Company “Shooting Star” 1970’s
8. Beastie Boys “So Whatcha Want” 1990’s
9. Beck “E-Pro” 2000’s
10. Bikini Kill “Rebel Girl” 1990’s
11. Billy Idol “White Wedding Pt. I” 1980’s
12. Blondie “One Way or Another” 1970’s
13. Bob Dylan “Tangled Up in Blue” 1970’s
14. Bon Jovi “Livin’ on a Prayer” 1980’s
15. Cheap Trick “Hello There” 1970’s
16. Devo “Uncontrollable Urge” 1980’s
17. Dinosaur Jr. “Feel the Pain” 1990’s
18. Disturbed “Down with the Sickness” 2000’s
19. Dream Theater “Panic Attack” 2000’s
20. Duran Duran “Hungry Like the Wolf” 1980’s
21. Elvis Costello “Pump It Up” 1970’s
22. Fleetwood Mac “Go Your Own Way” 1970’s
23. Foo Fighters “Everlong” 1990’s
24. Guns N’ Roses “Shackler’s Revenge” 2000’s
25. Interpol “PDA” 2000’s
26. Jane’s Addiction “Mountain Song” 1980’s
27. Jethro Tull “Aqualung” 1970’s
28. Jimmy Eat World “The Middle” 2000’s
29. Joan Jett “Bad Reputation” 1980’s
30. Journey “Anyway You Want It” 1970’s
31. Judas Priest “Painkiller” 1990’s
32. Kansas “Carry On Wayward Son” 1970’s
33. L7 “Pretend We’re Dead” 1990’s
34. Lacuna Coil “Our Truth” 2000’s
35. Linkin Park “One Step Closer” 2000’s
36. Lit “My Own Worst Enemy” 1990’s
37. Lush “De-Luxe” 1990’s
38. Mastodon “Colony of Birchmen” 2000’s
39. Megadeth “Peace Sells” 1980’s
40. Metallica “Battery” 1980’s
41. Mighty Mighty Bosstones “Where’d You Go” 1990’s
42. Modest Mouse “Float On” 2000’s
43. Motorhead “Ace of Spades” 1980’s
44. Nirvana “Drain You” 1990’s
45. Norman Greenbaum “Spirit in the Sky” 1960’s
46. Panic at the Disco “Nine in the Afternoon” 2000’s
47. Paramore “That’s What You Get” 2000’s
48. Pearl Jam “Alive” 1990’s
49. Presidents of the USA “Lump” 1990’s
50. Rage Against the Machine “Testify” 1990’s
51. Ratt “Round & Round” 1980’s
52. Red Hot Chili Peppers “Give it Away” 1990’s
53. Rise Against “Give it All” 2000’s
54. Rush “The Trees” 1970’s
55. Silversun Pickups “Lazy Eye” 2000’s
56. Smashing Pumpkins “Today” 1990’s
57. Social Distortion “I Was Wrong” 1990’s
58. Sonic Youth “Teenage Riot” 1980’s
59. Soundgarden “Spoonman” 1990’s
60. Squeeze “Cool for Cats” 1970’s
61. Steely Dan “Bodhitsattva” 1970’s
62. Steve Miller Band “Rock’n Me” 1970’s
63. Survivor “Eye of the Tiger” 1980’s
64. System of a Down “Chop Suey” 2000’s
65. Talking Heads “Psycho Killer” 1970’s
66. Tenacious D “Master Exploder” 2000’s
67. Testament “Souls of Black” 1990’s
68. The Donnas “New Kid in School” 2000’s
69. The Go-Go’s “We Got the Beat” 1980’s
70. The Grateful Dead “Alabama Getaway” 1980’s
71. The Guess Who “American Woman” 1970’s
72. The Muffs “Kids in America” 1990’s
73. The Offspring “Come Out & Play (Keep ‘em Separated)” 1990’s
74. The Replacements “Alex Chilton” 1980’s
75. The Who “Pinball Wizard” 1960’s

Bonus Artist Bonus Song Title Decade
76. Abnormality “Visions” 2000’s
77. Anarchy Club “Get Clean” 2000’s
78. Bang Camaro “Night Lies” 2000’s
79. Breaking Wheel “Shoulder to the Plow” 2000’s
80. The Libyans “Neighborhood” 2000’s
81. The Main Drag “A Jagged Gorgeous Winter” 2000’s
82. Speck “Conventional Lover” 2000’s
83. The Sterns “Supreme Girl” 2000’s
84. That Handsome Devil “Rob the Prez-O-Dent” 2000’s


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on Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:40 PM

Yeah I like RB2's setlist a bit better. They have Megadeth! lol. Although I may get WT later o, seeing as how RB2 peripherals ork with it (am I understanding that right?)
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on Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 6:59 PM
Yeah, I rented the PS2 version of World Tour and played it with a Rock Band 1 guitar and Rock Band 1 drums. That's all that I know is compatible. I would assume that Rock Band 2 peripherals are also compatible.


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on Tuesday, November, 18, 2008 8:00 PM
Cam, I just realized something. You could use your Rock Band 2 drums to play frets on fire on your PC (as long as they connect the same way as the RB1 drums). It should work something like this (copied and pasted from a youtube vid on how to do this with GH3):

Heres how to set it all up in plain text.

First off make sure windows recognizes your drums by plugging the usb cable into the back of your computer. Then go to Start - Control Panel - Game controllers and make sure your drums are in the list. Don't ask me if this works for any other windows than Windows XP because it is the only operating system i tested this on.

Now that windows detects your drums:

1. Run Guitar hero 3 for PC and go to Options - Controller - Configure Keyboard

2.Now set your keys like this:
Green - V
Red - C
Yellow - X
Blue - Z
Orange - B
Star Power - Spacebar
Strum up - E
Strup down - R

3. Now close GH3 when you're done setting the keys.


Converting for drums

1. First download this: http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm
2. Now extract the folder anywhere.

3. Run joy2key and hit create. Name it whatever you want and hit ok.

4. On the right double click Button 1 and press "X" on your keyboard. It will now bind Button 1 to the letter X. Now click the text box under where you entered the X and put E. Then hit ok.

5. Now do those steps to make it end up looking like this FOR PS3/PS2 DRUMS:
Button 1 - X, E
Button 2 - Z, R
Button 3 - V, E
Button 4 - C, R
Button 5 - B, E
Button 13 - Space

For XBOX 360 DRUMS:
Button 1 - Z,R
Button 2 - V,E
Button 3 - X,E
Button 4 - C,R
Button 5 - B,E

6. Now your drums 4 drums are the Red, yellow, blue, and green for GH3, your footpeddle is orange, and the Playstation symbol button on the drums is your Starpower activator.

Now all you need to do is run Joy2Key before you run GH3. Now you can play the game with your drums.

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