360 requires you to purchase Xbox Live service to buy a patch that could possibly kill your system. All 360 games are required to have some kind of Xbox Live functionality, which makes all games annoying if you don't buy Live. I have an original Xbox, and all of the nag screens for live are just so annoying! Plus, they're notorious for the Red Rings of Death.

Sorry for that little rant..
I have a Wii system, so I'm kind of a "fanboy" I guess.

Most 360 games have been released on PC or something cheaper, though. This generation really is crazy. where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

TRON.dll Wrote:360 requires you to purchase Xbox Live service to buy a patch that could possibly kill your system. All 360 games are required to have some kind of Xbox Live functionality, which makes all games annoying if you don't buy Live.

XBox Live Silver is free and gives access to all required patches and downloads. You don't NEED to buy Live.

TronFAQ pretty much laid it out game-wise. And as far as platform choice, if you can barely run TRON 2.0 then you're not going to be able to enjoy the recent crop of games on your PC.

IS the silver still good for the original xbox by any chance for guys like me?? I am not planning to get the xbox 360 at all.

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From what I understand the list is full of misinformation. I dropped my paid Gold membership and switched to a Silver. I kept my gamertag and I kept my friends list. I can download paid and free content. I can do everything but play online. So why does the official list suggest otherwise?

PC is the best, no question, especially once you mention any first person shooter -

But your budget will influence the outcome - PCs that can play recent games well are expensive and unless you have a recent PC, a decent upgrade can cost around $1000.

If you have at least an 8x AGP P4 machine (with around 3gig processer) or 16x PCI Express machine with similar, then the upgrade cost is about the same as a low-end console, and make it a more reasonable decision.

Something to think about - people consider 360 and PS3 as "Next Gen" but the new PC cards (such as the low-cost x3870 or 8800 series ) are a complete generation beyond the consoles.

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i don't own a 360 yet, but i do have a vista PC, however, this is now severely out of date, and, being a student, i lack the budget for upgrading, buying a decent PC,or buyng a 360.

i have been deliberately refraining from buying the latest games, such as bioshock and crysis because i know i wouldn't be able to play them. i tried the bioshock demo, and 5 minutes in my computer crashed.

that said, i did get UT3 to run very well...on the absolute minimum settings, and with my computer fan screaming in pain.

anyway, if i did buy a 360, it'd have to be an elite system [aparrently, they're better suited against the red ring of death]
by the looks of it, the 360 is going to be my last change to play the orange box... and that depresses me a lot.

I used to be a heavy gamer in the early 90's when the Xt's came out way back when. Nowadays I don't really buy games unless it was something that I really wanted like Tron 2.0 for the XBox or for the PC. When I usually buy a computer these days its like the bare minimum that I need and its replacing a system that I have had for too long and it's more than 9 years old. Like my old Aptive from IBM that is running a AMD K6-2 450 socket 7 in it. It is still good to run windows 98 ME or even windows 2000 pro and family server on it with maxed out on 256 megs of ram which still does somewhat a good job for word processing. excel spreadsheets. Or its applications specific that I need to work with like Oracle 10g or 11i for example.

TronFAQ Wrote: Prankster bit Wrote:by the looks of it, the 360 is going to be my last change to play the orange box... and that depresses me a lot. I'm pretty sure the Orange Box would run quite well on your system. Valve always has fallbacks in place for older systems, so the games still run decently. But since I know you hate Steam . . . I guess you're not going to give them a try. Heh.

i have tried it, that's the thing. i bought the orange box on steam, and after downloading and installing everything, I get this every single time, i trawled through every page of that thread, trying everything people suggested,
i did somehow manage to get portal to work, and i played and finished that as quickly as possible. but when it told me the files were corrupted, i just gave up...

then, in a wave of optimism, i bought the disc version of the orange box, in the hope that if i installed that, and created another steam account to link the key to, troubles would be solved. so i uninstalled everything steam-related on my computer, then install it again from disc. it installs steam, then steam doesn't connect to the internet and update, meaning i cannot continue the installation. now, for some reason, steam not only fails to run, it also fails to install properly as well. meaning at present, i am completely unable to play not only the orange box, but my original half life 2 as well.

so you see, it's not a matter of my computer being unable to play orange box due to specs. i *know* my computer can handle the source engine easily, it's just my completely shite experiences with valve and steam that hinder my fun.

yes, i hate steam, but as you can see, i have very, very good reasons to do so.

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Wow, Prankster . . . I'm sorry to hear that Steam has been causing you so much grief. It's very unfortunate that you're having that kind of problem. It looks like there might be a bug in Steam that only affects people with certain setups.

Here's hoping Valve eventually figures it out and releases a fix.