Astrozombbie!!! User
Posts: 580 | This is sad on Thursday, January, 04, 2007 5:19 PM
This is really sad experience for me.
I was in the USA Embassy this last Wednesday, I had the plan to make a trip to US this january because I want to know a animation computer´s school in Florida because the people in the school will have a tour inte school and I have the invitation for come, ok for come to the Embassy I need make a trip to Mexico City, for this I need make early (3:00a.m.) and come to Mexico City, before that I need pay $10 US dls. for call to the Embassy, and pay $100 dls for visit the Embassy, this last Wednesday I had everything ready for the trip, airplane tickets, bank vouchers, properties, passport, everything ready, I have the invitation from the school for visit the school...
But in the Embassy say that I can´t come to USA
... because I´m YOUNG
and because I´m young they said me that I don´t have the money for pay one airplane, and I need a very fat wallet for come to USA, because USA IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MANY MANY MONEY and they said me that it is impossible that the people of my country could pay the schools of USA...
... I´m sorry my friends, maybe I should not say these so disagreeable things
...but how you think that I feel after that?
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Posts: 2,939 | Re: This is sad on Thursday, January, 04, 2007 5:42 PM
Wow that was really rude of them. Hope you can get things worked out so you can take that tour. That really sucks they would say that.
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Posts: 2,991 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 3:23 AM
I'm so sorry the hear about your bad luck. They should let you come.
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Boingo_Buzzard User
Posts: 0 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 10:24 AM
Astrozombbie!!! Wrote:
But in the Embassy say that I can´t come to USA
... because I´m YOUNG
and because I´m young they said me that I don´t have the money for pay one airplane, and I need a very fat wallet for come to USA, because USA IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MANY MANY MONEY and they said me that it is impossible that the people of my country could pay the schools of USA...
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe that at all. You make us seem like this country of intolerance, hatred, and ignorance with this post, and I say to you: Prove it. Show me some documentation or some taped conversation of this and I will believe it. You were probably denied for some other reason, but this is what you're saying happened.
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Posts: 803 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 3:06 PM
To be fair, he's specifying the statements of individuals. That's not a reflection on the country as a whole. Nor did he make any claims to suggest as much. If his distaste for the country was vast enough to lie, I doubt he would want to come here.
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Boingo_Buzzard User
Posts: 0 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 3:20 PM
lurkinghorror Wrote:To be fair, he's specifying the statements of individuals. |
Well, yes and no. He said the "Embassy" which is our representative in his country. He repeatedly said "they" which to me means this was a group effort of the Embassy. I would feel the same way about something if I were told that a group of soldiers did something. They represent us, and whatever they do reflects on us as a nation.
That being said, I still just don't believe him. I think he's making it up, or projecting silly reasons on the REAL reason he was denied entry to the US.
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Astrozombbie!!! User
Posts: 580 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 4:05 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:Astrozombbie!!! Wrote:
But in the Embassy say that I can´t come to USA
... because I´m YOUNG
and because I´m young they said me that I don´t have the money for pay one airplane, and I need a very fat wallet for come to USA, because USA IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MANY MANY MONEY and they said me that it is impossible that the people of my country could pay the schools of USA...
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe that at all. You make us seem like this country of intolerance, hatred, and ignorance with this post, and I say to you: Prove it. Show me some documentation or some taped conversation of this and I will believe it. You were probably denied for some other reason, but this is what you're saying happened.
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:
Well, yes and no. He said the "Embassy" which is our representative in his country. He repeatedly said "they" which to me means this was a group effort of the Embassy. I would feel the same way about something if I were told that a group of soldiers did something. They represent us, and whatever they do reflects on us as a nation.
That being said, I still just don't believe him. I think he's making it up, or projecting silly reasons on the REAL reason he was denied entry to the US.
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WITH THE WHOLE RESPECT THAT YOU DESERVE, IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THIS, IT IS YOUR PROBLEM AND I DO NOT HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE ANYTHING TO YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU THINK IN THIS WAY FOR MANY REASONS, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT HERE IN MEXICO, YOU ARE NOT MEXICN, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ASK FOR VISAS, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE ATTENDED IN A DISAGREEABLE WAY FOR A CONSUL, AND IS A REALLY DIFERENT SITUATION BETWEEN YOU AND I THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND VERY WELL.
I SAID MY EXPERIENCE IN THE EMBASSY, AND YES, IS HARD, REALLY HARD AND SAD FOR ME, BUT WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IT WAS DIFFICULTLY AND SAD FOR ME? BECAUSE I LOVE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS I LOVE MEXICAN PEOPLE, I HAVE FAMILY AND MANY FRIENDS IN AMERICA THAT THAY CAN GIVE THE LIFE FOR ME.
DO YOU KNOW WHY I WANTED TO GO TO USA? BECAUSE I WANTED STUDY IN FLORIDA COMPUTER ANIMATION, REALLY I DON´T THINK THAT I HAD THOUGHTS OF USA LIKE A COUNTRY OF INTOLERANCE, HATRED, AND IGNORANCE, IF IT WENT TRUTH, YOU THINK THAT I WOULD BE IN THIS FORUM DOING MY BETTER EFFORT FOR SPEAK IN ENGLISH?
NO MY FRIEND
I KNOW THAT EXIST HARD TROUBLES WITH THE GOVERNMENTS OF MEXICO AND USA, BUT THIS IS NOT MY TROUBLE AND YOUR TROUBLE, BECAUSE YOU AND WE ARE CITIZENS, CITIZENS THAT WE STRUGGLE EVERY DAY TO GO OUT FORWARD IN THE LIFE, THE GOVERNMENTS ARE THOSE OF THE PROBLEMS AND LAMENTABLY HARMED WE ARE ALL THE CITIZENS, NOT MATTER FROM THAT COUNTRY YOU ARE THEY ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
LAMENTABLY I HAD THIS BAD EXPERIENCE THAT I WOULD NEVER WISH TO SOMEONE BUT I DON´T WILL DIE FOR THIS, AND I DOT´T WILL HATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, SAMPLE OF THIS IS THAT I WILL RETURN TO TRY, AND SOMEDAY I WILL GO TO USA AND MAYBE I CAN WILL INVITE YOU A PIZZA AND MAYBE WE CAN WATCH TRON
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Posts: 1,201 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 4:50 PM
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Boingo_Buzzard User
Posts: 0 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 5:44 PM
Astrozombbie!!! Wrote:
WITH THE WHOLE RESPECT THAT YOU DESERVE, IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THIS, IT IS YOUR PROBLEM AND I DO NOT HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE ANYTHING TO YOU, |
Uhm... did or did you not start this whole thread? If you post something, please expect people to reply. If you don't care what I think them PM people your rants, instead of posting them for everyone to see and comment on. I just assumed you did care since you posted it to somewhere I could see it.
I DON´T THINK THAT I HAD THOUGHTS OF USA LIKE A COUNTRY OF INTOLERANCE, HATRED, AND IGNORANCE, IF IT WENT TRUTH, YOU THINK THAT I WOULD BE IN THIS FORUM DOING MY BETTER EFFORT FOR SPEAK IN ENGLISH? |
Again, I took it that way because you chose to single out the Embassy instead of relating as to how you had some run in, or words, with some Dingus working there. I’m not naive enough to think every American (or human being for that matter) is a complete moral angel. However, you seemed to indicate that this was policy.... U.S. policy.. by implying that the "Embassy" was behind it.
THE GOVERNMENTS ARE THOSE OF THE PROBLEMS AND LAMENTABLY HARMED WE ARE ALL THE CITIZENS, NOT MATTER FROM THAT COUNTRY YOU ARE THEY ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN. |
Well... see now I'm confused. Now you seem to be saying that the government is behind it all, not the "good people". I can assure you what you posted is not American foreign policy.
AND SOMEDAY I WILL GO TO USA AND MAYBE I CAN WILL INVITE YOU A PIZZA AND MAYBE WE CAN WATCH TRON |
Sure. That would be cool. You seem like a nice enough guy and I bet we'd get along. I still don't believe you, though
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Astrozombbie!!! User
Posts: 580 | Re: This is sad on Friday, January, 05, 2007 5:53 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:
I still don't believe you, though
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Posts: 2,691 | Re: This is sad on Saturday, January, 06, 2007 4:10 AM
Back in '99, I went to Canada for a couple weeks to visit a friend of mine. They almost didn't let me in the country cuz they did not think I had enough money. They actually called my friend and she had to convince them to let me enter the country. Then they made a point of telling me that I was not allowed to get a job while I was visiting. Like I'm gonna launch a new career in 2 weeks *rolls eyes*
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Posts: 0 | Re: This is sad on Saturday, January, 06, 2007 7:54 AM
Astrozombbie!!! Wrote:This is really sad experience for me.
I was in the USA Embassy this last Wednesday, I had the plan to make a trip to US this january because I want to know a animation computer´s school in Florida because the people in the school will have a tour inte school and I have the invitation for come, ok for come to the Embassy I need make a trip to Mexico City, for this I need make early (3:00a.m.) and come to Mexico City, before that I need pay $10 US dls. for call to the Embassy, and pay $100 dls for visit the Embassy, this last Wednesday I had everything ready for the trip, airplane tickets, bank vouchers, properties, passport, everything ready, I have the invitation from the school for visit the school...
But in the Embassy say that I can´t come to USA
... because I´m YOUNG
and because I´m young they said me that I don´t have the money for pay one airplane, and I need a very fat wallet for come to USA, because USA IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MANY MANY MONEY and they said me that it is impossible that the people of my country could pay the schools of USA...
... I´m sorry my friends, maybe I should not say these so disagreeable things
...but how you think that I feel after that?
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Whoa!
Back to the original post and thought.
I wanted to comment about this the other day, but couldn't.
This REALLY sucks.
This kind of crap is why people in other countries end up actually believing that American's are rich snobs who think that they're better than other people.
Astrozombbie, I hope you realize that these idiots are NOT sharing the views or sentiments of Americans - ONLY their OWN dumb-ass views.
The world is FULL of jerks. Jerks come from all countries, background, religions, etc. America has its share of jerks and rude bustards as well.
Anyone who's spent time in America knows that we are NOT all rich and to NOT all have "fat wallets". For many years after I moved out of my parent's house, I struggled to survive myself. I often went to bed hungry because I lived far below the poverty level. That is NO joke. I lived on squat for several years, and had to look for opportunities for free meals with my parents, friends, etc. because I usually had no money for groceries.
As bad as I had it for a while, I know so many Americans have it worse. This is the richest country on the planet ONLY WHEN you take in to account ALL the money that everyone COMBINED has. The fact of the matter is that most of America's "riches" are owned by less than 1% of the population. The rest of us "normal" folks work hard for a living and complain about the price of gas because we're lucky to break even with the bills every month.
Astrozombbie - please do not let these idiots (the people at the embassy) change your views about America or the American people. This is a beautiful country with a lot of diversity in its people. Most Americans are very kind people with big hearts. Unfortunately, as with any place on earth, some Americans are just jerks. It happens.
Don't give up on America, Astrozombbie. This really is a great place with a lot of opportunities. Perhaps one day you will come to America and take advantage of a good opportunity here and make a very good living in doing so.
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laphtiya User
Posts: 948 | Re: This is sad on Saturday, January, 06, 2007 9:33 AM
Okay just read this thread, first of all. Boingo dont take it so personally, if he said it happened it happened why should he have to show you some documented proof of this happeneing?
No offense intended but with posts like that your not exactly helping his opinion about the United States are you? Why would he be making it up? No country is perfect you know, what has he gained by posting what happened on here? Nothing that I can see.
What I am seeing here is a guy who's had a bad day and come on here to rant about it to his friends. If you dont believe it happened you should just keep that to yourself and give the guy a pat on the back and a few "there there" words just in case he is telling the truth.
But no offense intended at all towards you Boingo but you should learn not to jump up and down on people who say a bad word about America, because it does have faults. So does the UK for one what really really winds my up about the UK is I cannot say that I am English. We have to put British down, yet if your Scottish you can put Scottish down, Irish you can but that down and Welsh yet. Us poor English cannot put down that were English and if we put our flag up like you guys over in the USA we get told were offending none english people and forced to take it down!!!!!!
Maybe you should look at it this way, when some people tell me what they think is crap about my own country I try to find out why they think this reason with an open mind. Most of the time its down to a bad experiance with a minority. Who knows the guys at the Embassy might have dealed with a really nasty person before our friend here talked to them and he got the back lash of it.
Its human nature I've done it at work, when I've had a horrible customer who puts me in a bad mood and all my workmates suffer for it because I get all snappy and angry at them for no reason. I am putting this one down to a bad experiance maybe you just caught them on a bad day. Your saying they refused you because of money, perhaps this is because all day long they have dealed with people who do not have anything, and they just assumed you were the same. Dont let it spoil your ideas of trying again, like I said perhaps you just caught them at a bad time.
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Posts: 0 | Re: This is sad on Saturday, January, 06, 2007 2:53 PM
Astrozombbie!!! Wrote:and because I´m young they said me that I don´t have the money for pay one airplane |
Maybe you should find out what others did to get here, this sounds wierd, like they're trying to get money from you while they can. Maybe there is a legal action you could invoke toward the embassy for making you leave based on opinions, I'd give them hell, the economy here in florida is crap, as of late, and there's probably alot of political pressure in those types of places.
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