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DaveTRON
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Hate Will Not Win

on Friday, November, 04, 2005 12:08 AM
Saw this on Jay Maynard's (TRON Guy) Live Journal and thought it was worth sharing here:

I am the mother who told her lesbian daughter to invite her girlfriend over for dinner.

I am the father who punished his son for calling you a fag.

I am the preacher who told my congregation that love, not hate, is the definition of a true follower of God.

I am the girl who did not learn the meaning of "homosexual" until high school but never thought to question why two men might be kissing.

I am the woman who argues (quite loudly and vehemently) with the bigots who insist that you do not have the right to marry or raise children.

We are the high school class who agrees, unanimously, along with our teacher, that love should be all that matters.

If you agree, repost this. Do it. You don't have to be afraid. You can handle it. You're stronger than you think.

I am making a difference. Hate will not win.


Several of my friends suffer from this type of prejudice. This said some things that I believe. I hope others will be inspired by it.

DaveTRON

 
Boingo_Buzzard
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on Friday, November, 04, 2005 12:16 AM

Yeah, that's great Dave, thanks for sharing.

You'd think with all the hate and violence in the world that something as simple as how people love each other would be a no-brainer. But a lot of people feel threatened by differences in life and are scared by things they can't understand. They, in turn, lash out against it in the most disgusting ways. I have seen people I consider to be very intelligent, and even respect, turn hostile when it comes to the topic of sexuality.

I, in all honesty, believe it’s how you’re raised.

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Nikster
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on Friday, November, 04, 2005 12:59 AM
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FreedomForever
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on Friday, November, 04, 2005 7:52 PM
Good find, Dave. Thanks for posting. Love is all that matters.


 
MutoidMan
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 1:33 AM
I hate hate!




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TheJediUnit
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 4:42 PM
It's a long, over-simplifed stretch to infer that reasonable concerns for children being raised in homosexual environments equals "hatred".

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DaveTRON
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 6:37 PM
TheJediUnit Wrote:It's a long, over-simplifed stretch to infer that reasonable concerns for children being raised in homosexual environments equals "hatred".

Vastly, childishly over-simplifed.

The sensistive side of JediUnit ladies and gentlemen!

DaveTRON

 
Qix77
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 7:31 PM
It's like my preacher said in church a while back...

"A Homosexual will not burn in hell because they are homosexual, but only if they deny salvation of christ. No man has any right to condem another to hell."

I may not agree with the life style, but yet my life style isn't perfect either. Besides, some of my friends are gay and yet we are friends.

Too much hate in the world already.


 
Boingo_Buzzard
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 8:31 PM
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Define "reasonable concerns".


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TheJediUnit
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 9:39 PM
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DaveTRON
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 10:15 PM
TheJediUnit Wroteescribe why it's an act of hate.

Preventing two people who are capable of providing a loving home from doing so just because you do not agree with their personal life is an act of hate.

Lovely things like calling them deviants. Talking about them like they are out to make more homosexuals out of innocent children. The people that say things like what you've said tend to lead into those areas.

Being gay is not just the extravagant crap you see on TV and in movies. There are plenty of people who live a normal life just like mine who simply love someone of the same sex. They live a normal, quiet life, and could raise children as well as any hetero couple.

Instead, well meaning, but hoplessly bigoted people seem to think that gay = pedophile or something like that. They are wrong. While I am sure there are exceptions, let's consideer that there are horrible exceptions in the hetero world too. I know pelnty of gay people who would make far better parents than some of my straight frieinds.

The inability to see past your fear of a different lifestyle is a form of hate. The fact that you dodge a question with a question is evidence to me that you feel uncomfortable explaining your position. Labelling everyone a certain way because of a subset is a form of hate. Try looking at each individual case rather than the whole and you might see what I see. As long as you put off this vibe you've added here, you will be an element of hate.

DaveTRON

 
Boingo_Buzzard
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 11:13 PM


Good response, Dave.



 
Nikster
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on Saturday, November, 05, 2005 11:38 PM
Both my parents are straight...I was raised in a stereotypical straight household. As a young child my parents tried to encourage me to do all the things little straight girls did.



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DaveTRON
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 12:24 AM
You have friends Nikster!

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Nikster
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 12:55 AM
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DaveTRON
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 1:22 AM
Plus you have the best singature quotes!

DaveTRON

 
Boingo_Buzzard
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 1:08 PM
Nikster Wrote:I will very likely never be able to do in this country simply because someone who never met me decided they don't like me.

Some states are starting to come around. However there is a higher level of ultra-conservatism that still pervades most of the levels of government these days, so it will take some time and not be an easy battle but hopefully some day things will come around everywhere.

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TheReelTodd
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 1:43 PM
I've stopped in this thread a few of times. I wanted to add something intelligent and positive to this message - a message that I agree with. A couple of times, I even started writing some thoughts... but it quickly turned in to Todd's views on why hate is bad and why people need to grow and open their minds... I started writing a book about stuff I'm sure most of us are already well aware.

But I wanted to express my support, so here I am.

Hate is generally the result of an insecurity caused by lack of knowledge... or at least the kind of hate being discussed here is, in my opinion.

Everyone can make a difference. Share some of your knowledge with others. Don't force-feed it to them, just offer it when you find a good opportunity. Knowledge is power... the kind of power that can stomp out this kind of hate and ignorance.

When you come across someone who is stubborn and very set in their hate-filled (or at least ignorant) ways, don't turn your back on them. Be patient with them and try not to just jump all over them. Let them share what they want with you, as offensive as you may find it. Then take the time to share your knowledge with them - and be polite about how you do it, even if you feel they were rude. At the very least, you will plant a seed of knowledge in their mind. The seed may or may not grow, but at least it will be there...

Ok - that's enough of that. I'm on the verge of getting long-winded again. 'Nuff said.




 
Qix77
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 2:18 PM
DaveTRON Wrote:You have friends Nikster!

I agree...



 
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on Sunday, November, 06, 2005 2:20 PM
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