Boingo_Buzzard Wrote: DaveTRON Wrote:Boingo, Demos can only play with other like demos. for example, the 1.0 demo can only play against 1.0 demos and not 1.2, etc. Doubt there are many people doing that these days. If I were to purchase the retail version to play online does it cost extra to do so?

The only costs to play TRON 2.0 PC are the initial costs to buy it, and as Mutoid Man pointed out, that's pretty low.

Fox Xbox TRON 2.0 you do need to pay for Xbox Live.

Compucore Wrote:Is there a deathmatch match version included with the 1.42 version? I had heard a while ago. I think it may have been vaporware on this. That it was included on this. I can be wrong on this. The deathmatch was only available on XP versions only.

At one time, the Official v1.042 patch worked on XP only. (Such a smart idea, too. ) Later, it was re-released and worked on any version of Windows.

So at one time, Deathmatch was an XP only feature. But now, anyone can play it when they install the latest patch.

There's also an Unofficial v1.042 patch, and it's the one I prefer to use.

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DaveTRON Wrote:When Microsoft pays a company like BVG what they paid to get that, you do it, simply put. I agree it was dumb, but the money made dumb a good thing for BVG.

I know, but at what cost to customer relations? A lot of people were very upset about the whole XP-only issue, at the time. They could have at least put an "XP only" notice in the patch (that didn't pop up when you were actually trying to install it), when they first released it. But they didn't.

Well, at least we got a new Deathmatch feature . . . that's the upshot of it.

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MutoidMan Wrote:The "XP Only" notice was definitely there on the TRON 2.0 website; it wasn't a secret by any stretch of the imagination, all you had to do was read.

Not quite, MutoidMan. You need to know the history of what happened with this patch.

BVG released the patch on FilePlanet a few days prior to it appearing on the Tron 2.0 site. And the file description on FilePlanet, did not mention the XP requirement. Meanwhile, plenty of people had downloaded and tried installing it . . . only to discover it wouldn't work unless they had XP.

Naturally, people were upset about this. It wasn't until a few days later that the patch appeared on the Tron 2.0 site with an "XP Only" notice. But by then, the damage had been done.

Not to mention . . . even with the notice, it's pretty galling of a company to release a patch with a new game mode, and expect you to upgrade to a new version of Windows in order to play it. I don't ever recall another company doing such a stupid thing.

redrain85 Wrote: MutoidMan Wrote:The "XP Only" notice was definitely there on the TRON 2.0 website; it wasn't a secret by any stretch of the imagination, all you had to do was read. Not quite, MutoidMan. You need to know the history of what happened with this patch. BVG released the patch on FilePlanet a few days prior to it appearing on the Tron 2.0 site. And the file description on FilePlanet, did not mention the XP requirement. Meanwhile, plenty of people had downloaded and tried installing it . . . only to discover it wouldn't work unless they had XP. Naturally, people were upset about this. It wasn't until a few days later that the patch appeared on the Tron 2.0 site with an "XP Only" notice. But by then, the damage had been done. Not to mention . . . even with the notice, it's pretty galling of a company to release a patch with a new game mode, and expect you to upgrade to a new version of Windows in order to play it. I don't ever recall another company doing such a stupid thing.

Redrain,

Close, but no cigar! File Planet was not supposed to have that patch. It was only supposed to appear on the TRON site. I don't recall the exact circumstances of how File Planet obtained it, but it was something that was not supposed to happen due to BVGs deal with MS. It was supposed to be an XP exclusive for 3 months and then go wide. I think someone in Marketing sent it out to someoneat a Magazine who passed it on to File Planet.

A dumb idea, but as I said, the Micro$oft ca$h was just too good for BVG to pass up. So they did it.

Well, regardless of whether it was a mistake or not: it happened. And it was a bad idea. Money or no.

Expecting customers to buy a new version of Windows to use a game patch, was a little much to ask. (And at the time of its release, no one was sure when it would officially stop being an "XP Only" patch.)

Thank you for the insight, though. I didn't know the release to FilePlanet was a mistake. I thought they just sent the wrong version . . . not that FilePlanet wasn't supposed to have it.

Getting back to a more cheerful note . . .

It was good to see you in Light Cycles, Traahn. Hope I can meet some more Tron-Sector regulars there. I must've just missed Jade, then.

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DaveTRON Wrote:Redrain, Close, but no cigar!

AH-HAH! So it looks like YOU needed to know the history of the patch redrain! Muhahaha!

Thanks DaveTRON!

Do I need to point out that the above is in jest, and that I'm just busting chops?

I think I do, 'cause you never know. So...

The above is in jest, and I'm just busting chops so don't take it seriously.

Don't make me break out the happy helmet!

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MutoidMan Wrote:AH-HAH! So it looks like YOU needed to know the history of the patch redrain! Muhahaha! Thanks DaveTRON! Do I need to point out that the above is in jest, and that I'm just busting chops?

No worries . . . I have a sense of humor and can take my lumps.

At least I learned something new out of all of this: BVG makes lots of mistakes.

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