hey, i did all i could to make amends!
and it wasn't intentional. full stop!

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Prankster bit Wrote: hey, i did all i could to make amends! and it wasn't intentional. full stop! i'm just glad that no TS members got hurt, i am also very glad i didn't go to London today, because i could have been one of the people counted injured/dead

Prankster, none of my current ire is aimed at you. Kamui is the new anti-US basher in the forums and I am put out with her uninformed comments.

Glad you are ok over there!

I have a Mexican friend who lives in London, because he studies there.

I am very happy because he is Ok.

But it is impossible to stop thinking about this horrible situation that now living the London people by this terrorist attack.

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I'm going to go into work in London tomorrow as normal. It's my own small bit of defiance, and no hypocritical terrorist is going to change the way I do things in my life!

DaveTRON Wrote: All this proves is my point, not hers. My point is that news in each country is going to naturally focus on news important to the people it serves. No sense in showing the Canadian Snow Report or the German Soccer Scores to Californians or Texans, right?

true, but we did get extensive coverage of the American Election. i'm assuming there was something about the british one over there, no?

That being the case, Natalee Holloway has been missing for about a month in Aruba. The US news has been covering the hell out of it because she is an American girl missing in a foreign country.

poor girl!

Am I surprised it's not a big story for you in the UK? Nope, not a bit. Minor news blip at best I'd imagine, and that's OK by me.

this is probably true, i had not heard about this, but i can only hope she gets back safely

bombings in London? That I want to know about, and the US news did their job perfectly and had plenty of coverage for me to see.

well, it's nice to know they care and do their job well

Kamui calls it bias, I call it regional news.

ok, you've convinced me!
it does seem a bit unfair to call it bias, now that think about it, but then again, if the news did cover events from all over the globe, it would be a really long and tedious program [i guess that's what things like news 24 - a seperate UK channel entirely devoted to news- is for, eh?]maybe it is best to keep it short and simple [country wise]?

Kamui:

To be fair, I heard about the bombing before I went to bed last night. Less than an hour after it happened it was all over the news in California.

As for the missing girl in Arruba, I've never heard about this until now.

There are certainly legitimate complaints about the American press. There is some truth to the argument of an American bias and there is some justification for this as DaveTron points out. But this specific issue is not a good example of this. The American news sources attacked this story like a man in the desert would water. As they should. There was no bias in this instance that resulted in a diminishment of news reporting.

Right now I'm checking in on every forum I read and I'm relieved to see that everyone I know is checking in okay. So far. Unfortunately not everyone has checked in. Now, I'm not one to shy away from a political argument and I am fairly far from being a supporter of US policy. That said, there will be time to politicize these events later. When emotions are not running so high. For now, most people need some time to let these events sink in, and confirm that everyone close to them are all right.

Glade to hear your okay Martin. Hope others here who haven't chimed in yet are okay.

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DaveTRON Wrote:Prankster, none of my current ire is aimed at you. Kamui is the new anti-US basher in the forums and I am put out with her uninformed comments. Glad you are ok over there!

Dave, it might be best if you didn't explode in the face of anyone who makes a derogatory comment about US politics. It's just adding fuel to a fire of conflict that we don't need. Not mad at you or anything, just sharing my opinions. Todd, I know you would prefer that all discussion of this end, but please understand, I am trying to be diploimatic. A pathetic effort, but I'm trying. I agree - Tron-Sector should not be clogged up with rediculous political debates. We have enough bigotry and pointless conflict in the outside world. We don't need to flood the Sector with it. Yet already we have managed to twist a thread of celebration and a thread of humanitarian concern into battlegrounds. Absurd. In one of the worst meanings of the word.

FreedomForever Wrote: Dave, it might be best if you didn't explode in the face of anyone who makes a derogatory comment about US politics. It's just adding fuel to a fire of conflict that we don't need. Not mad at you or anything, just sharing my opinions. Todd, I know you would prefer that all discussion of this end, but please understand, I am trying to be diploimatic. A pathetic effort, but I'm trying. I agree - Tron-Sector should not be clogged up with rediculous political debates. We have enough bigotry and pointless conflict in the outside world. We don't need to flood the Sector with it. Yet already we have managed to twist a thread of celebration and a thread of humanitarian concern into battlegrounds. Absurd. In one of the worst meanings of the word.

Freedom,

I appreciate your POV, but I think you have a great deal of nerve telling me I can't speak my mind when the other side of the issue has already.

Keep in mind, that this started with Kamui's generalization about American news media. She made an ill conceived comment and I took exception to it. If it had been a thoughtful, truly well informed critique of the US media, I might have agreed with some points, but instead she made a rather sweeping generalization that was plain wrong. I don't think she did it because she's Canadian, I think she did it because she didn't think first.

A serious problem with many people is their willingness to sit back while people say horrible/stupid/wrong things and then get away with it. I'm not going to sit back and take it, and I don't think anybody should. I was taught that when something is wrong you stand up and say so, so I do.

You see is it as exploding in their face, and I see it as not letting them get away with it. I haven't been mean about it (sarcastic is not mean, I was trying to be funny), I just say what I think. People read 'mean' into it. I am actually quite calm about it for the most part.

In addition to Freedom Of Speech I think people need the Freedom To Think First too. I am not going to sit back while people bash away at my country with ill conceived generalizations. We shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush, and that's what Kamui did. She deserves to be called on it.

I know you do not know me well, but you should also know that if I felt I was wrong in the matter, I would be the first to say so. In this case, I feel I am firmly in the right.

I also have no problem with Kamui other than this issue. I think she's great, I love her art, and I plan to be friendly with her after this debate, but she was wrong in what she said...period.

FreedomForever Wroteave, it might be best if you didn't explode in the face of anyone who makes a derogatory comment about US politics. It's just adding fuel to a fire of conflict that we don't need. Not mad at you or anything, just sharing my opinions.

So, your opinion would be that only one side of an argument (preferably your side) should be allowed to voice their opinon, and the other side should remain silent, thereby avoiding conflict "we" don't need. How very fascist.

FreedomForever Wrote:I agree - Tron-Sector should not be clogged up with rediculous political debates.

Great. Then don't start any by staying on topic.

FreedomForever Wrote:... we have managed to twist a thread of celebration and a thread of humanitarian concern into battlegrounds. Absurd. In one of the worst meanings of the word.

"We" meaning the people who posted anti-American material. Nobody else twisted the purpose of the threads.

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