Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Was Tron a Virus?
on Monday, November, 29, 2004 10:55 AM
I was thinking. Was the Tron Program what we would class today as a virus? I mean, he WAS a rogue program running on the system for the sole purpose of bringing the entire system to its knees. It WAS introduced into the system somewhat maliciously (Flynn wanted the rights to the games he made, and didn't know anything about the MCP hacking into the Pentagon).
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KiaPurity
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Posts: 3,488 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Monday, November, 29, 2004 11:40 AM
There was a thread about it and I remember that there were some people who weren't happy.
Besides, MCP is far more of a virus than Tron could ever be! After all, the silly program was going after everything in sight which is a typical characterisc(sp?) of a virus.
Now, if he was a destructive virus... as in destroying the mainframes that he retrieved the programs from... that'd be really awful.
Then again, we do get a taste of the woefully destructive virus from the corruption within Tron 2.0.
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Monday, November, 29, 2004 12:13 PM
Yeah, I suppose when it comes down to it, the sole purpose of a virus is to replicate itself and cause havoc. Tron was more of a reactivated security program who was doing his job, and that happened to be to shut down the number one offender of security on the Encom system 
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Corruption
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Monday, November, 29, 2004 7:26 PM
Alan created Tron, Flynn created that program in the tank at the beginning, I think named Clu.
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Kamui
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 9:04 AM
So.... wouldn't that sorta put Tron in the catagory of anti-virus? ^^;;
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 10:14 AM
| Kamui Wrote:So.... wouldn't that sorta put Tron in the catagory of anti-virus? ^^;; |
Possibly, except Tron didn't give the option of quarantining the MCP before he wiped it out
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 10:33 AM
As you will recall, Alan 1 set him on 'delete file' when they communicated via the I/O Tower.
This is explained in the Dillinger scene. TRON is a Security Program, so all of the features described might be a part of his process. His job is to shut down unscheduled activities.
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jmaynard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 12:00 PM
The MCP, as mentioned above, was indeed a virus (well, in the modern sense). It mentioned to Dillinger that it had been invading other systems and taking them over.
That does lead me to wonder: When Tron ABENDed the MCP, what happened to those other systems? Did they all crash?
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 12:15 PM
I've always thought a good story idea for the sequel would involve programs on those military and government systems coming into the ENCOM servers after they were freed to make sure the MCP was toast. The story could have revolved around the effect of an outside invasion into ENCOM, chaos would ensue, battles would be won and lost and good fun could be had by all, right?
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Alan1
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Posts: 701 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 12:35 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:
I was thinking. Was the Tron Program what we would class today as a virus? I mean, he WAS a rogue program running on the system for the sole purpose of bringing the entire system to its knees. Pentagon).
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Do you mean the MCP? TRON was a security program that monitored anything illegal, and "shut it down". That's why he was a threat to the MCP "I can't afford to have an independant program monitoring me"
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Kamui
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 2:00 PM
jmaynard Wrote:The MCP, as mentioned above, was indeed a virus (well, in the modern sense). It mentioned to Dillinger that it had been invading other systems and taking them over.
That does lead me to wonder: When Tron ABENDed the MCP, what happened to those other systems? Did they all crash? |
I doubt it. Otherwise, there would never be a Tron 2.0 nor will there be some sorta legacy code. I mean thing about it, there was referance (Somewhat implied) suggesting that after the MCP was destroyed, the system seemed to be okay. Otherwise, thgere would be no legacy code.
Does that make sense? I'm not sure if you're seeing what I'm seeing. ^^;;
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 2:28 PM
| Kamui Wrote:I mean thing about it, there was referance (Somewhat implied) suggesting that after the MCP was destroyed, the system seemed to be okay. |
You know, that is very true. We see the system lighting up and everything being restored to how it once was. Maybe since the MCP took over as the "heart of the system", when it tanked, the system was able to restore itself to previous functionality, being not removed completely but perhaps just supressed by the MCP.
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Kamui
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 3:20 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:| Kamui Wrote:I mean thing about it, there was referance (Somewhat implied) suggesting that after the MCP was destroyed, the system seemed to be okay. |
You know, that is very true. We see the system lighting up and everything being restored to how it once was. Maybe since the MCP took over as the "heart of the system", when it tanked, the system was able to restore itself to previous functionality, being not removed completely but perhaps just supressed by the MCP.
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If everything connected did crash as well, there'd be chaos because you remember in the opening that the MCP was connected in some way to all those arcade games? Imagine what else he was connected to!
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lurkinghorror
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Posts: 803 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Tuesday, November, 30, 2004 6:28 PM
The MCP was one of the earliest forms of trojan horse style spyware. It was originally bundled as a Chess program and was used to infiltrate the early Arpanet. Through the Arpanet, it gained access to high level military systems and the like.
Tron was a prototype security program.
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Doug Jacoby
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Posts: 0 | “Hello Mr. Dillinger Thanks for coming back early”
on Saturday, December, 04, 2004 12:51 AM
I agree that Tron is today's equivalent to let's say a Norton's Antivirus software running on the main frame super computer built by ENCOM..
QUESTION:
1. Would the MCP be an Operating System?
2. What kind of Program was Yori?
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Doug Jacoby
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Posts: 0 | "It's Your Boy Detective"
on Saturday, December, 04, 2004 1:00 AM
Here is my theory on what Zark was may have been:
Zark was clone of clones in every Arcade game Flynn wrote.
Perhaps a real virus if you would.
Dillinger made sure Flynn’s games where infected.
Since the Dillinger wanted Flynn dead (in the living and electronic world) Dillinger made sure that the Arcade games in Flynn’s place had Zark.
In real life I think there is a Virus program on the Apple called “Zark” many years ago.
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Saturday, December, 04, 2004 1:11 AM
| Would the MCP be an Operating System? |
Interesting question. I would have to say no. I would say that the MCP was an application running over an existing operating system given that the system was restored to normal when the MCP was destroyed.
| What kind of Program was Yori? |
Yori was a conversion program who would be in charge of running testing simulations before overlaying code live on the system. Hence she had access to the solar sailor and the sea of simulation.
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Saturday, December, 04, 2004 1:20 AM
Doug Jacoby wrote...
| Here is my theory on what Zark was may have been: |
It's SARK, not ZARK.
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Boingo_Buzzard
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Posts: 0 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Saturday, December, 04, 2004 1:25 AM
Wanna know something interesting? I actually have a function on our system called SARK. It's short for Secondary Archive. Totally threw me for a loop the first time I saw it. I was like "DON'T TOUCH THAT FUCTION! IT'S EVIL!!!!"
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Was Tron a Virus?
on Saturday, December, 04, 2004 1:28 AM
Yeah, it's gonna take over man!
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